Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

[Kobewade11]

Can't believe everyone getting sucked back in again for like the 10th time in 3yrs. Kawhi, Toronto Lowry,PG13,Yannis,Kyrie,Donovan, Kd(twice), Beal, and Lillard. Even when these dudes name us as the place they want to be, we still don't close the deal.

More than half the guys you listed did not name Miami as the place they wanted to be.

[VaDe255]

They won't just start signing free agents, unless they trade for a major piece first.

It's too many guards on the roster, someone has to go. Should be Dame, the win now roster is difficult to construct and the rebuild fits like a glove.

[HIF]

I like Jaquez. Think he'll be a fan favourite and exceed expectations. Great pick FO

[HIF]

But that doesn't mean he's been perfect which you seem to have an issue with. Up till the mid 201x Riley was incredible, but he may have messed up with LeBron (although I think he was gone no matter what) and since then he's not really hit on much in 8 or so years, he got lucky to have Butler force his way to Miami. He's not perfect, especially in his 70s. Once again, Miami was 3 minutes away from not even making the playoffs.

Lol bro....Wade may have sold Jimmy on Heat culture......that RILEY BUILT. He coulda easily forced his way out had he seen the same bullsh*t he disliked in his past teams. But we different here & he thrived & cleaned his reputation benefitting frm what Pat built here.

This organisation stands on the mindset, beliefs, heart & soul of Riley. We don’t achieve sh*tw/out him. I done care about what he hasn’t been able to do when we’ve achieved more in his tenure than 80% of the entire league that we can hang our hats on.

If we win another title as a result of the continuing decisions by Riley that put us in position to do so i don’t want to see any of these detractors celebrating. NONE. And we remember you all!

What? People can't celebrate a championship if they complain about moves the FO has elected not to make?

This is a ****ing fan forum, gtf over yourself.

Yes, Riley was a huge part of building heat culture. Not a single soul is doubting that.

Some of y'all suck. This place is not at all like it used to be.

Like it used to be? You noob.

[HIF]

And the FO will still get **** from some.

It's all about expectations.

If all you want is to be solid, or even being considered a semi-contender - that's fine, run it back and you might get your wish if some things go our way.

But if you really want to give yourself a real chance to win the all thing - you simply have to add real legit scoring talent. Running it back will not get you to the top under any circumstances.

Its called conformity, some people are Ok with it some others are not. Some see the Heat making the finals because of hard work and a miracle as something that can get done over and over again until the end of time, some others see it as not enough to make it but to win it all. Its all fine, the problem lies when one group discredits the opinion of the other group as if they are the bible of basketball all clumped together. Its all entertaining at the end of the day to read so many conflicting opinions.

I thought only 6 year old girls and religo=ious freaks believed in miracles. Now I understand you.

It's planning and hard work that gets teams consistently to the ECF not miracles. How's your water?

[HIF]

Watch us run this sh*t back & be a top 4 seed.

And the FO will still get **** from some.

All I know is that if we run this sh*t back again again and stand Pat (pun intended), we will not be winning a title and I couldn't care less what seed we get. And after it's over, Jimmy's another year older and the window is almost closed.

The crazy thing is by saying that you actually think we can win the title this year by getting some old whale in.

Fact is fact, we didn't think they would do anything this last 5 years as we've ran it back time after time and yet we've done better than most.

You need some reality. It's unlikely we'll win another title in your lifetime whatever we do this season. Riley, Spo and the FO are the reason we have a chance to do that, regularly.

[HIF]

Players don’t want to play for Spo. His defensive scheme breaks down the bodies of his players come playoff time. Best thing that can happen to Miami is Spo leaving and not spending $100M on his next contract.


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Bollocks

What year under Spo have we had s fully healthy team?

During the Big 3, there were at least 3 post seasons that one of our key guys was hurt.
Last year, Bam.
Bubble, Bam, Dragic.

No other team struggles with bad injuries as much as we do in the post season.


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Players do want to play for spo, he'll go down as one of the top NBA coaches in history when he retires. Get over your problem, I've been listening to you complain about Spo for years and years.

[BBallFreak]

And this negativity is why I was gone for so long before, and why I'm out now.

See you guys in the Finals...

[Kobewade11]

And this negativity is why I was gone for so long before, and why I'm out now.

See you guys in the Finals...

This sub-forum desperately needs posters like you to stick around

[BBallFreak]

And this negativity is why I was gone for so long before, and why I'm out now.

See you guys in the Finals...

This sub-forum desperately needs posters like you to stick around

This sub-forum has become a cesspool of negativity. I love this particular sub-forum and have been here for over two decades, but it's not worth it to stay when 95% of the posts are about how bad the front office is, how we need a new coach, or how untalented we are.

The General Board (!!!!!) doesn't hate on the team as much as our own fans because all of them recognize, at the very least, that we have one of the top front offices in the game today and the best coach, because they see their own and the teams around us, in comparison. This board, though?

Not for me.

Sorry to those of you who see the big picture, but I can't fight our own fans anymore. I'm too old for this...

[MiamiSun]

And this negativity is why I was gone for so long before, and why I'm out now.

See you guys in the Finals...

This sub-forum desperately needs posters like you to stick around

This sub-forum has become a cesspool of negativity. I love this particular sub-forum and have been here for over two decades, but it's not worth it to stay when 95% of the posts are about how bad the front office is, how we need a new coach, or how untalented we are.

The General Board (!!!!!) doesn't hate on the team as much as our own fans because all of them recognize, at the very least, that we have one of the top front offices in the game today and the best coach, because they see their own and the teams around us, in comparison. This board, though?

Not for me.

Sorry to those of you who see the big picture, but I can't fight our own fans anymore. I'm too old for this...

It's not everyone. There are plenty of us who appreciate this franchise/FO/team/coaching staff. I wish more people would stick up for or guys when the negative energy starts swirling around here, but I get it. Don't get sucked into the negativity. I do that in life as well and I live a beautiful happy life. My wife said once that I am the type of guy that if I find horse poop in a room, I am optimistic that there must be a pony somewhere nearby. lol

[CanesHeatFins]

Can't believe everyone getting sucked back in again for like the 10th time in 3yrs. Kawhi, Toronto Lowry,PG13,Yannis,Kyrie,Donovan, Kd(twice), Beal, and Lillard. Even when these dudes name us as the place they want to be, we still don't close the deal.

More than half the guys you listed did not name Miami as the place they wanted to be.

PG13 was the only one that didn't have us on some unofficial preferred destination list, and maybe Yannis, but we were moving as if we had some type of inside connection between him, Bam, and their agent. Everyone else had us on their list.

[MiamiSun]

Can't believe everyone getting sucked back in again for like the 10th time in 3yrs. Kawhi, Toronto Lowry,PG13,Yannis,Kyrie,Donovan, Kd(twice), Beal, and Lillard. Even when these dudes name us as the place they want to be, we still don't close the deal.

More than half the guys you listed did not name Miami as the place they wanted to be.

PG13 was the only one that didn't have us on some unofficial preferred destination list, and maybe Yannis, but we were moving as if we had some type of inside connection between him, Bam, and their agent. Everyone else had us on their list.

I think Spo is pretty up front and clear when he says this place is not for everyone. Therefor I think there is an understanding with agents/clients that some players are better off not even suggesting wanting to come to Miami.

[Wiltside]

If no trades are made, nice little youngish core we got going on here with Herro, Jaquez, Jovic and Bam.

[wade44]

There’s a lot more room for objectivity on this forum too. Yes it’s true that the front office has made poor decisions I’m sure they would love to have back. However, Everything is a trickle down effect though and it begins at the top. The reality is we’ve made the conference finals 3 out of the last 4 years and finals 2 out of the last 4 with Jimmy, Bam, and scrubs. The main problem i see with this place is posters with hidden agendas that have been dragging down the quality of the forum for a while now that has been addressed by mods but the same kind of posting continuing anyway. Either way have to stay optimistic especially after last year no one had us pegged as getting to the finals

[IceColdCubano]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

If no trades are made, nice little youngish core we got going on here with Herro, Jaquez, Jovic and Bam.

Really nice 5-4-3-2 right there. Now need to find that young PG

[greg4012]

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Is Shams making stuff up or is Dame telling Haynes to do this as damage control. I'm over the Dame wait and back and forth. I'm okay with a boring summer at this point.

I think Shams is reporting from Portland sources and Haynes is reporting from Dame sources. Either Portland or Dame are BSing. But that does signal a possible disconnect between the 2.

I just don’t want this long shot chase to be drawn out. That would hurt us

[greg4012]

Jaquez is a polished player. Much more polished than anyone in his pick range. We will see if that's going to translate to the league.

-SHULA

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

[IceColdCubano]

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Is Shams making stuff up or is Dame telling Haynes to do this as damage control. I'm over the Dame wait and back and forth. I'm okay with a boring summer at this point.

I think Shams is reporting from Portland sources and Haynes is reporting from Dame sources. Either Portland or Dame are BSing. But that does signal a possible disconnect between the 2.

I just don’t want this long shot chase to be drawn out. That would hurt us

in special cases like these, where you have a beat writer/reporter who is direct friends with a player at a personal level, you take what he says with more gravity. Shams & Woj's of the world will always be mouth pieces for teams, its how they continue to get the insider information. They always need to present the situation through the lens of the team not the player.