Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:33 pm
I just wish these guys would give us a link to check it ourselves instead of just posting screenshots of cherry picked stats.
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marson wrote:I've got to give a lot of credit to Bam, might be the best player last night. Hit clutch shots when the Celtics is crawling back, plus the impressive defense on Celtics wings. Gotta keep this up if we want to finish the frauds.
insfo wrote:I just wish these guys would give us a link to check it ourselves instead of just posting screenshots of cherry picked stats.
IceColdCubano wrote:
Voltron914 wrote:marson wrote:I've got to give a lot of credit to Bam, might be the best player last night. Hit clutch shots when the Celtics is crawling back, plus the impressive defense on Celtics wings. Gotta keep this up if we want to finish the frauds.
i think what bam is doing in this series is enough to get him the award. Gobert has always been somewhat overrated and Wemby is still young. its just a better script to give it to Bam now and let him get the playoff nba 2k stimmy pack so the refs can swallow their whistles for him like they did with Roy Hibbert back in the day
IceColdCubano wrote:Voltron914 wrote:marson wrote:I've got to give a lot of credit to Bam, might be the best player last night. Hit clutch shots when the Celtics is crawling back, plus the impressive defense on Celtics wings. Gotta keep this up if we want to finish the frauds.
i think what bam is doing in this series is enough to get him the award. Gobert has always been somewhat overrated and Wemby is still young. its just a better script to give it to Bam now and let him get the playoff nba 2k stimmy pack so the refs can swallow their whistles for him like they did with Roy Hibbert back in the day
I believe, that all these awards should be handed out and voted on after Playoffs are done. I want to see how voting goes, when Player X who is touted #1 on a list goes up against player Y touted #3 and gets anilliated face to face. Just like Coach of the Year award etc, let them prove to you it counts when it mattered. If rookie #5 on the ladder goes up against rookie #1 and shows him up or has overall better series involvement or production showing all the work they put during the season. I think that would be far more true to the context of the final result.
AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:Voltron914 wrote:
i think what bam is doing in this series is enough to get him the award. Gobert has always been somewhat overrated and Wemby is still young. its just a better script to give it to Bam now and let him get the playoff nba 2k stimmy pack so the refs can swallow their whistles for him like they did with Roy Hibbert back in the day
I believe, that all these awards should be handed out and voted on after Playoffs are done. I want to see how voting goes, when Player X who is touted #1 on a list goes up against player Y touted #3 and gets anilliated face to face. Just like Coach of the Year award etc, let them prove to you it counts when it mattered. If rookie #5 on the ladder goes up against rookie #1 and shows him up or has overall better series involvement or production showing all the work they put during the season. I think that would be far more true to the context of the final result.
It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
IceColdCubano wrote:AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:
I believe, that all these awards should be handed out and voted on after Playoffs are done. I want to see how voting goes, when Player X who is touted #1 on a list goes up against player Y touted #3 and gets anilliated face to face. Just like Coach of the Year award etc, let them prove to you it counts when it mattered. If rookie #5 on the ladder goes up against rookie #1 and shows him up or has overall better series involvement or production showing all the work they put during the season. I think that would be far more true to the context of the final result.
It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
Therein lies the problem we are to understand that these awards are to go to players on winning teams, is an emphasis of being in the selection. Outside of perhaps rookie of the year, who could be the only one that is best serve to be selected prior to start of playoffs everything should take into account the entire body of work. if your a great defender you get no praise unless your team is a great defensive team usually top 5 defensive teams are playoff bound regardless. Its also allows you to take one last swing at showing what happens when the lights are brightest.
AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:Voltron914 wrote:
i think what bam is doing in this series is enough to get him the award. Gobert has always been somewhat overrated and Wemby is still young. its just a better script to give it to Bam now and let him get the playoff nba 2k stimmy pack so the refs can swallow their whistles for him like they did with Roy Hibbert back in the day
I believe, that all these awards should be handed out and voted on after Playoffs are done. I want to see how voting goes, when Player X who is touted #1 on a list goes up against player Y touted #3 and gets anilliated face to face. Just like Coach of the Year award etc, let them prove to you it counts when it mattered. If rookie #5 on the ladder goes up against rookie #1 and shows him up or has overall better series involvement or production showing all the work they put during the season. I think that would be far more true to the context of the final result.
It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
I don't think I've ever seen a 3 on 1 fast break with the 3 offensive players scared to shoot the ball.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:
I believe, that all these awards should be handed out and voted on after Playoffs are done. I want to see how voting goes, when Player X who is touted #1 on a list goes up against player Y touted #3 and gets anilliated face to face. Just like Coach of the Year award etc, let them prove to you it counts when it mattered. If rookie #5 on the ladder goes up against rookie #1 and shows him up or has overall better series involvement or production showing all the work they put during the season. I think that would be far more true to the context of the final result.
It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
I don't think I've ever seen a 3 on 1 fast break with the 3 offensive players scared to shoot the ball.
If your team has a bottom 10 defense and you’re a bottom 5 team in the league you shouldn’t win DPOY point blank period brother
AirP. wrote:Wonder if this will be renamed the Victor Wembanyama Award in 20 years. As great as Bam is on defense, you can't teach size. It's just wrong that Bam never won a DPOTY then again, it's about as wrong as Spoelstra never winning COTY.
I'm not sure I've ever seen players this worried about a single defender. His size and athletic ability is crazy.Spoiler:
carnageta wrote:AirP. wrote:Wonder if this will be renamed the Victor Wembanyama Award in 20 years. As great as Bam is on defense, you can't teach size. It's just wrong that Bam never won a DPOTY then again, it's about as wrong as Spoelstra never winning COTY.
I'm not sure I've ever seen players this worried about a single defender. His size and athletic ability is crazy.Spoiler:
My guesstimate is that Wemby will not be able to stay healthy enough to have the longevity for an award to be named after him.
AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:Voltron914 wrote:
i think what bam is doing in this series is enough to get him the award. Gobert has always been somewhat overrated and Wemby is still young. its just a better script to give it to Bam now and let him get the playoff nba 2k stimmy pack so the refs can swallow their whistles for him like they did with Roy Hibbert back in the day
I believe, that all these awards should be handed out and voted on after Playoffs are done. I want to see how voting goes, when Player X who is touted #1 on a list goes up against player Y touted #3 and gets anilliated face to face. Just like Coach of the Year award etc, let them prove to you it counts when it mattered. If rookie #5 on the ladder goes up against rookie #1 and shows him up or has overall better series involvement or production showing all the work they put during the season. I think that would be far more true to the context of the final result.
It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
I don't think I've ever seen a 3 on 1 fast break with the 3 offensive players scared to shoot the ball.
AirP. wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:AirP. wrote:It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
Therein lies the problem we are to understand that these awards are to go to players on winning teams, is an emphasis of being in the selection. Outside of perhaps rookie of the year, who could be the only one that is best serve to be selected prior to start of playoffs everything should take into account the entire body of work. if your a great defender you get no praise unless your team is a great defensive team usually top 5 defensive teams are playoff bound regardless. Its also allows you to take one last swing at showing what happens when the lights are brightest.
Winning isn't a requirement and there are separate awards for the playoffs.
carnageta wrote:AirP. wrote:Wonder if this will be renamed the Victor Wembanyama Award in 20 years. As great as Bam is on defense, you can't teach size. It's just wrong that Bam never won a DPOTY then again, it's about as wrong as Spoelstra never winning COTY.
I'm not sure I've ever seen players this worried about a single defender. His size and athletic ability is crazy.Spoiler:
My guesstimate is that Wemby will not be able to stay healthy enough to have the longevity for an award to be named after him.
Pokuokic wrote:Bam should win it but thus far in the playoffs Rudy for the first time ever has actually locked up guys like KD on switches this might be the first time ever he "might" deserve it. But him winning 4 is just beyond dumb he should have never got the other 3.
AirP. wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:AirP. wrote:It's a reward for the season, you could have a dominate defender.... like Wemby this year does not make the playoffs and others would get the benefit of recency bias.
I don't think I've ever seen a 3 on 1 fast break with the 3 offensive players scared to shoot the ball.
If your team has a bottom 10 defense and you’re a bottom 5 team in the league you shouldn’t win DPOY point blank period brother
That had more to do with the quality of his teammates and his coach not even playing a PG for the first half of the season. That should have nothing to do with deciding who is the best defender for the year.