Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

[SerialChiller]

And the FO will still get **** from some.

All I know is that if we run this sh*t back again again and stand Pat (pun intended), we will not be winning a title and I couldn't care less what seed we get. And after it's over, Jimmy's another year older and the window is almost closed.

The crazy thing is by saying that you actually think we can win the title this year by getting some old whale in.

Fact is fact, we didn't think they would do anything this last 5 years as we've ran it back time after time and yet we've done better than most.

You need some reality. It's unlikely we'll win another title in your lifetime whatever we do this season. Riley, Spo and the FO are the reason we have a chance to do that, regularly.

Some of us recognize that we've been right there but need to add to this mix a little to help us break through and win it all while we have the chance before Jimmy's window closes due to age. Then we have to start all over unless you are one of those thinking Herro can become our next Jimmy . I never said anything about a whale now did I? I just said if we run it back. I don't think we need a whale, I just think we need another piece in the front court that adds some size and another scorer to help with those horrid dry spells our offense falls into. Despite a magical run we essentially just wasted a year running it back. We never had a shot in the finals because our glaring weaknesses that everyone could see last offseason were still there to be exploited. I just don't want to repeat that mistake again. The crazy thing is we can add to the roster without getting a whale, you need some reality....

[IceColdCubano]

Jaquez is a polished player. Much more polished than anyone in his pick range. We will see if that's going to translate to the league.

-SHULA

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

I posted a video on the NBA draft thread where at the end he has a conversation with the trainer and they talk about how he will impress teams with his shooting, the percentages he shot during his college career are nothing but his bottom from an average point of view, you look at his sophomore season dude shot close to 40% from the three.

[greg4012]

Jaquez is a polished player. Much more polished than anyone in his pick range. We will see if that's going to translate to the league.

-SHULA

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

I posted a video on the NBA draft thread where at the end he has a conversation with the trainer and they talk about how he will impress teams with his shooting, the percentages he shot during his college career are nothing but his bottom from an average point of view, you look at his sophomore season dude shot close to 40% from the three.

I’d love to know more about his role difference Soph year that may have accounted for the uptick in 3pt %.

More spot up opportunities? Less relied on to create offense from the elbow/high post?

[IceColdCubano]

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

I posted a video on the NBA draft thread where at the end he has a conversation with the trainer and they talk about how he will impress teams with his shooting, the percentages he shot during his college career are nothing but his bottom from an average point of view, you look at his sophomore season dude shot close to 40% from the three.

I’d love to know more about his role difference Soph year that may have accounted for the uptick in 3pt %.

More spot up opportunities? Less relied on to create offense from the elbow/high post?

I was looking into it, and it actually pretty easy to explain, it was probably the best team he was on, and had guys who were able to take some attention away from him. The other 3 years, he was the go to guy essentially and was scouted to be shut down every game and still was very successful specially in the midrange and post up. If you look at his catch and shoot number open vs tightly contested its night and day, which tells the tale that if he was on a team were the rest of the players were capable he would absolutely be an incredible shooter.

[ShulaDon92]

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

I posted a video on the NBA draft thread where at the end he has a conversation with the trainer and they talk about how he will impress teams with his shooting, the percentages he shot during his college career are nothing but his bottom from an average point of view, you look at his sophomore season dude shot close to 40% from the three.

I’d love to know more about his role difference Soph year that may have accounted for the uptick in 3pt %.

More spot up opportunities? Less relied on to create offense from the elbow/high post?

In my view Jaquez is much more polished than Podz. The footwork, especially.

-SHULA

[MettaWorldPanda]

Jaquez is a polished player. Much more polished than anyone in his pick range. We will see if that's going to translate to the league.

-SHULA

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

I feel like Podz was next on our draft board. I think the Warriors thought the same and had Jaquez and Podz as there picks whomever was there for them. They also passed on Whitmore.

[HeatIn5]

Lol bro....Wade may have sold Jimmy on Heat culture......that RILEY BUILT. He coulda easily forced his way out had he seen the same bullsh*t he disliked in his past teams. But we different here & he thrived & cleaned his reputation benefitting frm what Pat built here.

This organisation stands on the mindset, beliefs, heart & soul of Riley. We don’t achieve sh*tw/out him. I done care about what he hasn’t been able to do when we’ve achieved more in his tenure than 80% of the entire league that we can hang our hats on.

If we win another title as a result of the continuing decisions by Riley that put us in position to do so i don’t want to see any of these detractors celebrating. NONE. And we remember you all!

What? People can't celebrate a championship if they complain about moves the FO has elected not to make?

This is a ****ing fan forum, gtf over yourself.

Yes, Riley was a huge part of building heat culture. Not a single soul is doubting that.

Some of y'all suck. This place is not at all like it used to be.

Like it used to be? You noob.

Need Iggie and every variation of the Dr Heats

[HeatIn5]

Jaquez is a polished player. Much more polished than anyone in his pick range. We will see if that's going to translate to the league.

-SHULA

Podz is with him on the level of polish. While being an elite shooter. That was one of the dudes I wanted over him. Oh well all good. We got the Jaquez

I feel like Podz was next on our draft board. I think the Warriors thought the same and had Jaquez and Podz as there picks whomever was there for them. They also passed on Whitmore.

Agree with this, for sure. Especially w GS taking them.

[greg4012]

I posted a video on the NBA draft thread where at the end he has a conversation with the trainer and they talk about how he will impress teams with his shooting, the percentages he shot during his college career are nothing but his bottom from an average point of view, you look at his sophomore season dude shot close to 40% from the three.

I’d love to know more about his role difference Soph year that may have accounted for the uptick in 3pt %.

More spot up opportunities? Less relied on to create offense from the elbow/high post?

In my view Jaquez is much more polished than Podz. The footwork, especially.

-SHULA

Really depends what you mean by polish. I’d consider Podz more multi-faceted. And of course younger.

[greg4012]

I posted a video on the NBA draft thread where at the end he has a conversation with the trainer and they talk about how he will impress teams with his shooting, the percentages he shot during his college career are nothing but his bottom from an average point of view, you look at his sophomore season dude shot close to 40% from the three.

I’d love to know more about his role difference Soph year that may have accounted for the uptick in 3pt %.

More spot up opportunities? Less relied on to create offense from the elbow/high post?

I was looking into it, and it actually pretty easy to explain, it was probably the best team he was on, and had guys who were able to take some attention away from him. The other 3 years, he was the go to guy essentially and was scouted to be shut down every game and still was very successful specially in the midrange and post up. If you look at his catch and shoot number open vs tightly contested its night and day, which tells the tale that if he was on a team were the rest of the players were capable he would absolutely be an incredible shooter.

Good stuff. Exactly what I was looking for

[DayofMourning]

If no trades are made, nice little youngish core we got going on here with Herro, Jaquez, Jovic and Bam.

Imagine if we could drop a young DWade in there...

[ShulaDon92]

I’d love to know more about his role difference Soph year that may have accounted for the uptick in 3pt %.

More spot up opportunities? Less relied on to create offense from the elbow/high post?

In my view Jaquez is much more polished than Podz. The footwork, especially.

-SHULA

Really depends what you mean by polish. I’d consider Podz more multi-faceted. And of course younger.

In this case Jaquez seems to have a more complete midrange package and seems to have a better all around game although Podz has that gunner style three point attack game.

-SHULA

[DayofMourning]

KOC said that JJJ has the cleanest footwork in the draft and can change his rhythms like a Tool song, lol.

[ShulaDon92]

KOC said that JJJ has the cleanest footwork in the draft and can change his rhythms like a Tool song, lol.

In the past, I feel Riley would have got Whitmore based on the athletic advantages. The times, they are a changing.

-SHULA

[3ballbomber]

And this negativity is why I was gone for so long before, and why I'm out now.

See you guys in the Finals...

This sub-forum desperately needs posters like you to stick around

This sub-forum has become a cesspool of negativity. I love this particular sub-forum and have been here for over two decades, but it's not worth it to stay when 95% of the posts are about how bad the front office is, how we need a new coach, or how untalented we are.

The General Board (!!!!!) doesn't hate on the team as much as our own fans because all of them recognize, at the very least, that we have one of the top front offices in the game today and the best coach, because they see their own and the teams around us, in comparison. This board, though?

Not for me.

Sorry to those of you who see the big picture, but I can't fight our own fans anymore. I'm too old for this...

I've been calling this sh*t out for several seasons now giving no f*cks if they ban me. This bullsh*t gets real f*cking tiring. Especially when you have fake ass fans posting that same drivel all damn season. Don't blame ya at all. Don't waste your energy.

[greg4012]

In my view Jaquez is much more polished than Podz. The footwork, especially.

-SHULA

Really depends what you mean by polish. I’d consider Podz more multi-faceted. And of course younger.

In this case Jaquez seems to have a more complete midrange package and seems to have a better all around game although Podz has that gunner style three point attack game.

-SHULA

Interestingly, their midrange numbers are pretty similar:

39% of JJ’s shots last season were 2 point jumpers(midrange) and he hit them at about 40% (32% assisted)

31% of Podz’s shots last season were 2 point jumpers (midrange) and he hit them at about 43% (19% assisted).

So the number of unassisted midrange shots they each created for themselves is likely similar. JJ obviously is a more effective driver to the rim (42% of his attempts at the rim finishing around 63%—about half assisted), even tho Podz is no slouch there (29% of attempts at rim finishing around 60%—vast majority unassisted).

As expected, the biggest gap between the 2 is with 3 point shooting, where Podz is elite.

Different positions, different players, obviously JJ has more versatile defensive potential.

[IceColdCubano]

This sub-forum desperately needs posters like you to stick around

This sub-forum has become a cesspool of negativity. I love this particular sub-forum and have been here for over two decades, but it's not worth it to stay when 95% of the posts are about how bad the front office is, how we need a new coach, or how untalented we are.

The General Board (!!!!!) doesn't hate on the team as much as our own fans because all of them recognize, at the very least, that we have one of the top front offices in the game today and the best coach, because they see their own and the teams around us, in comparison. This board, though?

Not for me.

Sorry to those of you who see the big picture, but I can't fight our own fans anymore. I'm too old for this...

I've been calling this sh*t out for several seasons now giving no f*cks if they ban me. This bullsh*t gets real f*cking tiring. Especially when you have fake ass fans posting that same drivel all damn season. Don't blame ya at all. Don't waste your energy.

If you just leave then, the bad posters keep outnumbering the good ones. There are a lot of smart individuals and a lot funny ones too, you just have to separate the good with the bad. For me this place is where I decompress from my busy azz management life working 60+ hours a week. So If I read something dumb, I just ignore it.

[DayofMourning]

Lots of folks with differing opinions. Folks are gonna complain. I thoroughly enjoyed RBW's rants last night. I was lmao.

In bball news, I think JJJ fills a role here. We werent trying to hit a home run here. I mean swinging for the fences when I say that. We took the guy whos skill set matches us to a tee. We might trade Strus, Caleb, or Duncan. J cubed will take some of those minutes potentially. Hes got some advanced skills that wont take time to develop. Having a guy whos ready to go while still operating to make a big splash makes a lot of sense to me.

[eddieheatfan]

nicknames for the jaquez?


i'll post mine: the jaken

[MettaWorldPanda]

KOC said that JJJ has the cleanest footwork in the draft and can change his rhythms like a Tool song, lol.

He’s going to be a Luis Scola type pain in the ass with that nasty footwork