Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central

[Heat_Fan_87]

I have a lot of friends who are Celtics fans. Great people... all of them. It's helped me get past my disgust for their team that is rooted in the LA-BOS rivalry of the 80s when I was young(er).

Then I see things like this on Twitter:

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So... we were supposed to force Bosh to play with blood clots? That would have been better.

And... wtbf? Wade left us.

Boston fans are starting to look desperate.

celtics fans mad, they have been promised stars for years with all their assets and all they have to show is paying max to get al horford.

hayward might go to boston, but at this point, the only reason would be he wants to play for his college coach.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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oh boy

Chest hurt bad. Halp

[gom]

Between gom reading up on the current contracts like a mad man and Mars's running the Bam train while quoting credible names that Gordon is within reach, I'm starting to get a little bit excited.

Spoiler:

Plz stop.

The cba faq is being updated, caliban. I've been waiting for this for months.

Check it out, people:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

[Heat_Fan_87]

if we get hayward then slim chance we keep dion, jmo.

[KL78192020]

I have a lot of friends who are Celtics fans. Great people... all of them. It's helped me get past my disgust for their team that is rooted in the LA-BOS rivalry of the 80s when I was young(er).

Then I see things like this on Twitter:

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So... we were supposed to force Bosh to play with blood clots? That would have been better.

And... wtbf? Wade left us.

Boston fans are starting to look desperate.

lol where was the Celtics loyalty to Allen, Perkins, Tony Allen etc...all the guys from the championship team.

[gom]

If we could get the full MLE, and decline the option for Ellington, aren't we able to offer 4 years 40 mill through cap space (other than max contract) , and 4 years 36 mill through MLE?

We cannot get the MLE. We are under cap with cap space to sign players, so all we get is the Room exception.

We can sign players up to cap, use the room exception, and then minimum contracts.

[MettaWorldPanda]

if we get hayward then slim chance we keep dion, jmo.

Make TJ the starter at two and i'm good.

[UD4MVP]

If we could get the full MLE, and decline the option for Ellington, aren't we able to offer 4 years 40 mill through cap space (other than max contract) , and 4 years 36 mill through MLE?

We cannot get the MLE. We are under cap with cap space to sign players, so all we get is the Room exception.

but GOM, isn't that a timing thing? Like if we sign Hayward, and additional space for one of JJ/Dion. Then we could be capped and offer the MLE to the other of JJ/Dion?

[KL78192020]

Financially the choice is either Jazz or Heat. In terms of taxes. Jazz can give that extra year, but in his prime that extra year shouldn't matter that much.

[Rapaz]

We are the "current favorite" to sign Hayward.

Source:

[Heat_Fan_87]

If we could get the full MLE, and decline the option for Ellington, aren't we able to offer 4 years 40 mill through cap space (other than max contract) , and 4 years 36 mill through MLE?

We cannot get the MLE. We are under cap with cap space to sign players, so all we get is the Room exception.

but GOM, isn't that a timing thing? Like if we sign Hayward, and additional space for one of JJ/Dion. Then we could be capped and offer the MLE to the other of JJ/Dion?

nope, you dont get the MLE if you operate as a team with cap space which we would be doing by signing hayward, even if we S&T for hayward, we dont have bird rights for JJ or Dion...i think....

[Heat_Fan_87]

Financially the choice is either Jazz or Heat. In terms of taxes. Jazz can give that extra year, but in his prime that extra year shouldn't matter that much.

shouldn't matter at all. we could give him a 3+1, he can opt out after 3 and we can give him the super max 200mil+ that i would never want to actually give him lol...if he is concerned about leaving money on the table, andy will be all over that like it was a chocolate cake.

[gom]

if we get hayward then slim chance we keep dion, jmo.

Make TJ the starter at two and i'm good.

Yes. TJ and James Johnson will be starters. Something like this:

Dragic, TJ, Hayward, JJ, Whiteside
Winslow*, McGruder*, Richardson, Okaro, Adebayo, UD (on minimum)

* (edited - I forgot Rookie 1 2015 and Rookie 1 2016)

We need to waive McRoberts and stretch him.

For Ellington, maybe sign him for the room exception. It's a discount this year of $1.8, but then he gets two years instead of one (so more money altogeter) and we'll have his bird rights.

[UD4MVP]

We are the "current favorite" to sign Hayward.

Source:

I looked at his linkedIn and this guy mainly has boston roots. I assumed his sources were always pro boston so this is surprising

[gom]

If we could get the full MLE, and decline the option for Ellington, aren't we able to offer 4 years 40 mill through cap space (other than max contract) , and 4 years 36 mill through MLE?

We cannot get the MLE. We are under cap with cap space to sign players, so all we get is the Room exception.

but GOM, isn't that a timing thing? Like if we sign Hayward, and additional space for one of JJ/Dion. Then we could be capped and offer the MLE to the other of JJ/Dion?

No no no. You can't do that. LOL.

"A team can't act like it's under the cap and sign free agents using cap room, and then use its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or trade exceptions."

Hold on I'll post a link:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q26

[Heat_Fan_87]

if we get hayward then slim chance we keep dion, jmo.

Make TJ the starter at two and i'm good.

Yes. TJ and James Johnson will be starters. Something like this:

Dragic, TJ, Hayward, JJ, Whiteside
Richardson, Okaro, Adebayo, UD (on minimum)

We need to waive McRoberts and stretch him.

For Ellington, maybe sign him for the room exception. It's a discount this year of $1.8, but then he gets two years instead of one (so more money altogeter) and we'll have his bird rights.

i like JJ and Tj off the bench.

i'd even take something like

dragic/jrich
mcgruder/tj
hayward/winslow
babbit/jj/bam
whiteside/bam

love that spacing for the staring lineup, would like an upgrade at the 4 but babit with bird rights and shooting 40% from 3 is fine for me.

[KL78192020]

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Ibaka? if Hayward decides not to come.

[UD4MVP]

Ibaka is just doing what Lowry did in 2014 (they have the same agent) and using us as leverage for his deal in Toronto.

[Wolfy1983]

If Dion leaves, we gotta persuade Wade(if he gets bought out) to come back. I really like J-Rich but he ain't ready to start.

[UD4MVP]

If Dion leaves, we gotta persuade Wade(if he gets bought out) to come back. I really like J-Rich but he ain't ready to start.

The scavenger would probably start tbh