2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy and the Kids!

[Bishop45]

Leonard can’t be traded

y?

[fishfuego.]

It's kind of irrelevant whether or not he's making 3s while being guarded or open.

It absolutely is relevant, it can limit what can and can't be done on the court. A shooter like Waiters doesn't really drop all that significantly with a defender close to him vs a guy like Winslow who has to be open, that changes your option on offense on where you place him to stretch out the court. A 3pt shooter may move to a less open spot to manipulate the defense to try to give a playmaker more room to operate in a specific area of the court. Also, a guy who can only shoot 3s well wide open has to be "open" so a defender doesn't have to worry about him as much, the defender can play the angles much better if he's is watching the passing lanes to the limited shooter. All these strengths and weaknesses can greatly alter options in offense and defense.

You don't get more points for shooting unguarded 3s vs shooting guarded 3s. You're basically arguing that Winslow isn't a 3-point threat because he doesn't attempt 7 3s a game. Also, you're wrong about a defender not having to worry about Winslow shooting 3s because he only shoots open 3s well. If Winslow's shooting 45% on open 3s, defenders will be MORE inclined to worry about him being open not less.

Think about this, Player A and B attempt 5 3s per 36 minutes. Player A shoots 36% from 3 but 34% on guarded 3s. Player B shoots 38% from 3 but 32% on guarded 3s. Who's the better 3-point shooter? Obviously player B.

But the point is a good defensive team has more options to cheat when a player needs space to shoot. That is nothing new.

[DayofMourning]

No as in not legal or no as in fak cp3

Not legal

Thank you for both your insight and vagueness in that original post

If you refer to the Larry Coon CBA FAQ excerpt I quoted earlier, a player can rescind his player option to facilitate a trade.

[HIF]

I would like to keep Leonard!

[Heat_Fan_87]

Leonard can’t be traded

y?

cant be traded until september

[gom]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

It absolutely is relevant, it can limit what can and can't be done on the court. A shooter like Waiters doesn't really drop all that significantly with a defender close to him vs a guy like Winslow who has to be open, that changes your option on offense on where you place him to stretch out the court. A 3pt shooter may move to a less open spot to manipulate the defense to try to give a playmaker more room to operate in a specific area of the court. Also, a guy who can only shoot 3s well wide open has to be "open" so a defender doesn't have to worry about him as much, the defender can play the angles much better if he's is watching the passing lanes to the limited shooter. All these strengths and weaknesses can greatly alter options in offense and defense.

You don't get more points for shooting unguarded 3s vs shooting guarded 3s. You're basically arguing that Winslow isn't a 3-point threat because he doesn't attempt 7 3s a game. Also, you're wrong about a defender not having to worry about Winslow shooting 3s because he only shoots open 3s well. If Winslow's shooting 45% on open 3s, defenders will be MORE inclined to worry about him being open not less.

Think about this, Player A and B attempt 5 3s per 36 minutes. Player A shoots 36% from 3 but 34% on guarded 3s. Player B shoots 38% from 3 but 32% on guarded 3s. Who's the better 3-point shooter? Obviously player B.

But the point is a good defensive team has more options to cheat when a player needs space to shoot. That is nothing new.

That doesn't make any sense. I'm making the argument that unguarded shooting vs guarded shooting is almost irrelevant if everything else is the same. If I'm shooting 45% unguarded from 3, why would you leave me open? Wouldn't you be more likely to defend a great open shooter rather than a great contested shooter?

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

If we promise to give him a 3 year $90,000,000 contract, yes.

[Beenie]

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Amare said Mia was first to call him in 2010 and if it were up to him, he would have joined Lebron and Wade.

[gom]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

If we promise to give him a 3 year $90,000,000 contract, yes.

So you'll pay a 39 year-old $30,000,000. ok...

[Daffy]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

Same thing I've been saying.

I've come to realize people will believe whatever makes them happy whether realistic or not.

[DayofMourning]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

I tossed it out there earlier to see what folks thought. Gained a lot of steam. Now the question is whether its legal to alter the PO. Coon seems to think so.

[Umbooki]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

If we promise to give him a 3 year $90,000,000 contract, yes.

So you'll pay a 39 year-old $30,000,000. ok...

Cliff Paul has returned and he is among us.

[batterybro42]

It would be a mistake for Miami to trade assets with OKC as a lateral movement. IMO is not straight up better than players such as Dragic, Waiters and such. At this point he is just a name with a huge contract and not much more.

I think it's safe to say you don't watch basketball

Yeah CP3's contract is bad, you people acting like he is Dragic tier have lost your minds, and probably have never seen him play

[Bishop45]

Money team, but looks like a potential Iggy trade won't happen. They should sign Lance for the meme's

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Are you guys seriously thinking Chris Paul, at 36 years-old, will give up a player option worth $44,211,146? That's nonsense. He's getting his money.

Lunacy i tell ya. No phucking way. People need to dead this already.

[HeatIn5]

Hey guys. Did I miss Anything today?

Y’all are like family to me and there aren’t many people in my life I have to share huge news with. I passed a huge certification exam for my line of work today that I have been stressing over in and out of heat drama for a couple months.

Thanks so much to all of you for keeping me sane through this process. Except for HeatLanta, I hate you. You stress me out.

[twix2500]

I would like to keep Leonard!

Why, he is not good

[twix2500]

Hey guys. Did I miss Anything today?

Y’all are like family to me and there aren’t many people in my life I have to share huge news with. I passed a huge certification exam for my line of work today that I have been stressing over in and out of heat drama for a couple months.

Thanks so much to all of you for keeping me sane through this process. Except for HeatLanta, I hate you. You stress me out.

You miss Bishop trying to build the team around Waiters

[twix2500]

Leonard can’t be traded

y?

He can be traded, just has to wait for September for it to be official.