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Post#1661 » by Beenie » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:51 pm

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DayofMourning wrote:Chris Paul to Phoenix. Bradley Beal to Miami. Vincent Foshworth trying to lay down some tasty sauce.


Beenie follows all the scam artists on Twitta :lol:


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Post#1662 » by Seabass777 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:52 pm

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radikalBaller wrote:Galinari, I pass, Kelly is better


Get off the weed Radikal cmon man lol

Galinari is a terrible defender, injury prone, that want big money on multi years, and already passed on an opportunity to join the heat on a winning run, I pass big time, sorry bro


Remember we can hide him on defense in our system. Bam is the anchor, Jimmy takes care of the wings, and so that leaves Duncan who is a liability, and Herro is getting better at that end of the floor.

But Gallo averaged almost 20 ppg while shooting 40% from 3, he's a bonafide sniper, and can put the ball on the deck to get to the free throw line, where he shoots 90%. Unlike Kelly you know he will produce from 3 consistently, unlike Kelly who has been very streaky, you never know with KO.

I do agree with him probably wanting big money, but I say give it to him, we can always trade the contract next summer if it comes down to it.
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Post#1663 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:00 pm

our nemesis is interested too. Interesting that Giannis helped recruit him to Bucks. Maybe they reunite in Miami :)
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Post#1664 » by JLop » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:01 pm

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How does a Phoenix trade for Paul correlate to us trading Bam for Giannis?


What move does Milwaukee have left to convince Giannis to stay? It seems to me that the Bucks are settling for the best possible trade. In such a scenario, you can bet the farm that Pat will trade Bam in exchange for Antetokounmpo. A sign-and-trade for Gallinari when we have enough money to offer a contract for his service is another indication that we are up to something big. Once again, just a hunch.


I feel the same way Jlop, Bucks lost out of Dennis Schrodoer, and if CP3 is going to the Suns that's another big blow. However, I think the Bucks still have an opportunity at 2 more possible players, Jrue Holiday, or Victor Oladipo. Question is, will they have anything of value to offer to get those players?


Do you really see Jrue Holiday signing a new contract with Milwaukee in 2021? I also think there are too many suitors for his services and the Bucks have run out of assets. I see Víctor Oladipo as a more viable option with the small drawback that he wants a maximum salary to stay. My two words for that? Bad idea.
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Post#1665 » by Bishop45 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:05 pm

Wes is pretty washed on both offense and defense; I don't care where he goes
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Post#1666 » by DayofMourning » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:10 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Wes is pretty washed on both offense and defense; I don't care where he goes


Glad somebody said it lol.
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Post#1667 » by JLop » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:14 pm

I am skeptical that Sacramento will seek to pay a maximum salary to De'Aaron Fox within a year. The economic repercussions of COVID-19 for the NBA and small markets support that idea. Pat should be digging that pit to see what can sprout from it.
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Post#1668 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:14 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Wes is pretty washed on both offense and defense; I don't care where he goes

evidently he's not the player he once was, i think we're all aware of that. It wouldn't be an acquisition to move any needles. always handy having experienced vets, esp come PO's. He plays both ends & Pat make sures he comes cheap. does not hurt at all.
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Post#1669 » by Bishop45 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:32 pm

Harden has a destination list and has committed to Hou, somebody lion
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Post#1670 » by Bishop45 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:37 pm

WB's contract has plowed through the core of two franchises; unheard of
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Post#1671 » by Beenie » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:38 pm

Cant's see Brooklyn's package being more attractive to Hou than Philly or Mia's. Simmons and Herro >>> any of Brooklyn's pieces.
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Post#1672 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 pm

Bishop45 wrote:#20 for Mo Bamba, would you risk it?

Sign/trade DJJ + #20 for Bamba + #45. Draft Quickley at 45 and boom, we're addressing both interior and perimeter D while improving 3pt shooting

Would actually prefer Bamba/Quickley over something like Millsap/Matthews, ESPECIALLY if the former allows us to retain Crowder
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Post#1673 » by Bishop45 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 pm

Beenie wrote:Cant's see Brooklyn's package being more attractive to Hou than Philly or Mia's. Simmons and Herro >>> any of Brooklyn's pieces.


I don't think they want Simmons
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Post#1674 » by Beenie » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:42 pm

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Beenie wrote:Cant's see Brooklyn's package being more attractive to Hou than Philly or Mia's. Simmons and Herro >>> any of Brooklyn's pieces.


I don't think they want Simmons


What makes you think that?
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Post#1675 » by Wiltside » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:44 pm

Brooklyn can put on the table some handy players in Dinwiddie, LeVert and Jarrett Allen plus picks...but yeah, that's locking in a half decade of mediocrity.

It's probably better than anything we could offer though realistically. Even if Herro is arguably the greatest trade asset available, we don't have much else that would tantalise or more the needle.

Is a package of Tyler Herro, Kendrick Nunn, Kelly Olynyk, Andre Igoudala and pick #20 better than the Nets offer?

If Philly put Simmons on the table, it's done. If they tried to do it without Ben - the best they can probably do is something like Al Horford, Josh Richardson, Shake Milton, Matisse Thybulle and future FRP or something.

Gonna be a hectic couple weeks.
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Post#1676 » by Bishop45 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:48 pm

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Beenie wrote:Cant's see Brooklyn's package being more attractive to Hou than Philly or Mia's. Simmons and Herro >>> any of Brooklyn's pieces.


I don't think they want Simmons


What makes you think that?


Could be a fake rumour, but I think I heard something about them emphatically rejecting the notion of Harden for Simmons a few weeks ago. With or without Morey, 3pters are probably going to remain a part of their identity
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Post#1677 » by Bishop45 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:53 pm

Wiltside wrote:Brooklyn can put on the table some handy players in Dinwiddie, LeVert and Jarrett Allen plus picks...but yeah, that's locking in a half decade of mediocrity.

It's probably better than anything we could offer though realistically. Even if Herro is arguably the greatest trade asset available, we don't have much else that would tantalise or more the needle.

Is a package of Tyler Herro, Kendrick Nunn, Kelly Olynyk, Andre Igoudala and pick #20 better than the Nets offer?

If Philly put Simmons on the table, it's done. If they tried to do it without Ben - the best they can probably do is something like Al Horford, Josh Richardson, Shake Milton, Matisse Thybulle and future FRP or something.

Gonna be a hectic couple weeks.


Always the nuclear option? *Ducks*

Otherwise it matters how much they value Herro; if someone in their FO See's Devin Booker in him and/or Klay in Duncan Robinson

I can see some inner Kings in the Rockets FO(just Tillman tbh)
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Post#1678 » by Wiltside » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:57 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Brooklyn can put on the table some handy players in Dinwiddie, LeVert and Jarrett Allen plus picks...but yeah, that's locking in a half decade of mediocrity.

It's probably better than anything we could offer though realistically. Even if Herro is arguably the greatest trade asset available, we don't have much else that would tantalise or more the needle.

Is a package of Tyler Herro, Kendrick Nunn, Kelly Olynyk, Andre Igoudala and pick #20 better than the Nets offer?

If Philly put Simmons on the table, it's done. If they tried to do it without Ben - the best they can probably do is something like Al Horford, Josh Richardson, Shake Milton, Matisse Thybulle and future FRP or something.

Gonna be a hectic couple weeks.


Always the nuclear option? *Ducks*

Otherwise it matters how much they value Herro; if someone in their FO See's Devin Booker in him and/or Klay in Duncan Robinson

I can see some inner Kings in the Rockets FO(just Tillman tbh)


For some reason I completely forgot about Duncan.

Would be nice to be able to keep him AND add Harden if that's how it worked out, as it would be nigh on impossible to shut down. However, if he had to go to facilitate - so be it. Could add another volume 3pt shooter and still kill it.

Still feel we're saving ourselves for Yanni but who knows, Pat loves a whale and Harden is right up there.
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Post#1679 » by Beenie » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:00 am

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I don't think they want Simmons


What makes you think that?


Could be a fake rumour, but I think I heard something about them emphatically rejecting the notion of Harden for Simmons a few weeks ago. With or without Morey, 3pters are probably going to remain a part of their identity


I suspect it has more to do with Hou's default policy of Harden not being on the table. If that changes, I'd guess that Simmons would become very attractive to them.
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Post#1680 » by Beenie » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:04 am

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Wiltside wrote:Brooklyn can put on the table some handy players in Dinwiddie, LeVert and Jarrett Allen plus picks...but yeah, that's locking in a half decade of mediocrity.

It's probably better than anything we could offer though realistically. Even if Herro is arguably the greatest trade asset available, we don't have much else that would tantalise or more the needle.

Is a package of Tyler Herro, Kendrick Nunn, Kelly Olynyk, Andre Igoudala and pick #20 better than the Nets offer?

If Philly put Simmons on the table, it's done. If they tried to do it without Ben - the best they can probably do is something like Al Horford, Josh Richardson, Shake Milton, Matisse Thybulle and future FRP or something.

Gonna be a hectic couple weeks.


Always the nuclear option? *Ducks*

Otherwise it matters how much they value Herro; if someone in their FO See's Devin Booker in him and/or Klay in Duncan Robinson

I can see some inner Kings in the Rockets FO(just Tillman tbh)


For some reason I completely forgot about Duncan.

Would be nice to be able to keep him AND add Harden if that's how it worked out, as it would be nigh on impossible to shut down. However, if he had to go to facilitate - so be it. Could add another volume 3pt shooter and still kill it.

Still feel we're saving ourselves for Yanni but who knows, Pat loves a whale and Harden is right up there.


Herro, Nunn, DJJ (sign n trade), KZ, Olynyk, #20 and another future 1st is, IMO, better than the proposed Brooklyn offer.

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