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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1661 » by ShulaDon92 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:35 am

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al bondiga wrote: I would say those 5 are locked ...Wade enters in the next tier... You have to take into account History on the way the game has evolved... For example wade Was the 1st one Who was an incredible point guard and then an Incredible shooting guard


Wade played like Allen Iverson and Baron Davis. Wade was blessed with better passing skills than both of em. But he wasn't an originator at all.
I agree Lazy passers with both of those cases ... Iverson was super but he couldn't defend a very good big guard... And with Davis Team play was an issue

But what really set Wade apart was his basketball IQ



Yeah, Wade's court vision, IQ and skill were almost at Magic Johnson levels. Def Magic tier, in the range. A special player. In his prime he carried Miami to a title.
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Post#1662 » by unowen85 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:35 am

Wade was the B.I.W. If you ain’t agree, get off my board.
For a long time it gave me nightmares,witnessing an injustice like that.It’s a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be.I can still hear them taunting him, Silly Rabbit tricks are for kids.I mean why couldn’t they just give him some cereal?
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Post#1663 » by ShulaDon92 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:37 am

Wiltside wrote:I don’t think anyone said Herro had all-time potential. I’d say the consensus is he could make a couple All-Star games during his career, but he’s not a superstar and never will be. That’s ok, there are only a handful of true superstars in this league and Herro can still be a valuable player and contributor.

He doesn’t look right at the moment. I dunno what it is, but he needs to sort himself out before the playoffs come. When the defense ramps up, games slow down and physicality increases, if he’s playing like he is now he’ll get clamped.

Needs to watch tape on his December and get back to being that guy. Missing some swag at the moment.


Yeah if he fixes his shot selection and plays to his long range strengths he can maybe make an all-star game if he puts a complete season together. He's still not in his prime just yet.

Already he's a good role player but very inefficient to start the game. He heats up.
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Post#1664 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:40 am

Wiltside wrote:I don’t think anyone said Herro had all-time potential. I’d say the consensus is he could make a couple All-Star games during his career, but he’s not a superstar and never will be. That’s ok, there are only a handful of true superstars in this league and Herro can still be a valuable player and contributor.

He doesn’t look right at the moment. I dunno what it is, but he needs to sort himself out before the playoffs come. When the defense ramps up, games slow down and physicality increases, if he’s playing like he is now he’ll get clamped.

Needs to watch tape on his December and get back to being that guy. Missing some swag at the moment.


Tyler has great skillset, works hard on his game, has fantastic footwork. But he's a skinny finesse player. Prob can score an extra 4-6pts w/ ability to absorb & take contact. Jordan got beat up by bad boy pistons & put on muscle. It didn't affect his game. Herro isn't particularly quick either. He needs to get stronger in what ever capacity. Maybe focus more on this than having babies w/ his girl & IG fame.
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Post#1665 » by ShulaDon92 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:45 am

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Wiltside wrote:I don’t think anyone said Herro had all-time potential. I’d say the consensus is he could make a couple All-Star games during his career, but he’s not a superstar and never will be. That’s ok, there are only a handful of true superstars in this league and Herro can still be a valuable player and contributor.

He doesn’t look right at the moment. I dunno what it is, but he needs to sort himself out before the playoffs come. When the defense ramps up, games slow down and physicality increases, if he’s playing like he is now he’ll get clamped.

Needs to watch tape on his December and get back to being that guy. Missing some swag at the moment.


Tyler has great skillset, works hard on his game, has fantastic footwork. But he's a skinny finesse player. Prob can score an extra 4-6pts w/ ability to absorb & take contact. Jordan got beat up by bad boy pistons & put on muscle. It didn't affect his game. Herro needs to get stronger in what ever capacity. Maybe focus more on this than having babies w/ his girl & IG fame.


Wiltsides right tho:

Herro was cooking teams while Jimmy was out.
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Post#1666 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:05 am

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Wiltside wrote:I don’t think anyone said Herro had all-time potential. I’d say the consensus is he could make a couple All-Star games during his career, but he’s not a superstar and never will be. That’s ok, there are only a handful of true superstars in this league and Herro can still be a valuable player and contributor.

He doesn’t look right at the moment. I dunno what it is, but he needs to sort himself out before the playoffs come. When the defense ramps up, games slow down and physicality increases, if he’s playing like he is now he’ll get clamped.

Needs to watch tape on his December and get back to being that guy. Missing some swag at the moment.


Tyler has great skillset, works hard on his game, has fantastic footwork. But he's a skinny finesse player. Prob can score an extra 4-6pts w/ ability to absorb & take contact. Jordan got beat up by bad boy pistons & put on muscle. It didn't affect his game. Herro needs to get stronger in what ever capacity. Maybe focus more on this than having babies w/ his girl & IG fame.


Wiltsides right tho:

Herro was cooking teams while Jimmy was out.


Absolutely the kid can play & even help win us ball games. But needs to start building consistency. i beleive what will help him is to be more stronger & take the physicality.
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Post#1667 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:17 am

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BBallFreak wrote:To assume he's done developing is a bit of a stretch IMO. He's 23 years old. Look at the leap Bam took this year and he's 25. Jermaine O'Neal spent four years as a part time rotation player in Portland before finding his footing in the league, Kyle Lowry wasn't much more than a reserve for a lot of his early years, and Jimmy was just a defensive wing with no real offensive game and we all know how he's turned out.

I think it's fair to say that Tyler needs to really push himself to be better and that he's at a career crossroads, but I don't think it's fair to just assume he's a finished product. I also think he should be available in trade, along with Lowry's expiring contract, Jovic (only if need be) our 2023 first, 2028 first, and 2030 first for whatever star player we can get to put next to Jimmy and Bam...


My concern with Herro is he doesn't seem to have a knack for drawing fouls and consistently getting to the line. I am not asking him to average 10ftpg, but I think he has got to get around 5ftpg. He doesn't seem to be able to get to the bucket and get himself easy shots, and I am not sure either of these things is going to change.

The other thing is, I think Herro is a reasonably replaceable player. Is he really much better than, say, Jordan Clarkson, Buddy Hield, or Gary Trent?

I could see Herro getting traded in the summer for VanVleet. I would hope if Beal asked to be traded Miami would pass simply because of that insane contract. I doubt Lillard becomes available, but Riley would offer everything under the sun to get him.


Absolutely Herro has a leap in him where he can elevate his game further. If mental midget Bam can do it no doubt Tyler can. Again he needs to get stronger - W/ his elite footwork this will help him attack the basket easier & get to the line more. The only question is where will most of his focus be.....IG fame & sexing his IG model wife?
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Post#1668 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:17 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:47 players in the nba take 16 or more shots a game (Herro takes 17) Herro ranks 44th in PPG and 37th in TS%

You would think this dude was putting up Lillard numbers the way he gets talked about


Herro doesn't even get talked about outside of Heat nation. Not sure what you mean.


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Post#1669 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:22 am

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Wiltside wrote:I don’t think anyone said Herro had all-time potential. I’d say the consensus is he could make a couple All-Star games during his career, but he’s not a superstar and never will be. That’s ok, there are only a handful of true superstars in this league and Herro can still be a valuable player and contributor.

He doesn’t look right at the moment. I dunno what it is, but he needs to sort himself out before the playoffs come. When the defense ramps up, games slow down and physicality increases, if he’s playing like he is now he’ll get clamped.

Needs to watch tape on his December and get back to being that guy. Missing some swag at the moment.


Tyler has great skillset, works hard on his game, has fantastic footwork. But he's a skinny finesse player. Prob can score an extra 4-6pts w/ ability to absorb & take contact. Jordan got beat up by bad boy pistons & put on muscle. It didn't affect his game. Herro needs to get stronger in what ever capacity. Maybe focus more on this than having babies w/ his girl & IG fame.


Wiltsides right tho:

Herro was cooking teams while Jimmy was out.


Herro has played worse with Jimmy out this season
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Post#1670 » by Hallstar » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:25 am

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ShulaDon92 wrote:
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Tyler has great skillset, works hard on his game, has fantastic footwork. But he's a skinny finesse player. Prob can score an extra 4-6pts w/ ability to absorb & take contact. Jordan got beat up by bad boy pistons & put on muscle. It didn't affect his game. Herro needs to get stronger in what ever capacity. Maybe focus more on this than having babies w/ his girl & IG fame.


Wiltsides right tho:

Herro was cooking teams while Jimmy was out.


Herro has played worse with Jimmy out this season

You mean with our gleague All-stars?

What's our record without Herro?
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Post#1671 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:35 am

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Wiltsides right tho:

Herro was cooking teams while Jimmy was out.


Herro has played worse with Jimmy out this season

You mean with our gleague All-stars?

What's our record without Herro?


What point are you trying to get at? He said Herro was cooking teams when Jimmy was out, which was wrong so I corrected it. That’s a fact.

How many games did Herro miss that Jimmy and/or Bam also missed? Just another baseless argument without context.
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Post#1672 » by twix2500 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:38 am

Are yall going on Twitter simultaneously and posting the exact same conversations?

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twix2500 wrote:Are yall going on Twitter simultaneously and posting the exact same conversations?

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twix2500 wrote:Are yall going on Twitter simultaneously and posting the exact same conversations?

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Don’t start this dumb ish again
You are lmao!!!

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Post#1675 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:50 am

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twix2500 wrote:Are yall going on Twitter simultaneously and posting the exact same conversations?

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Don’t start this dumb ish again
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Post#1676 » by twix2500 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:58 am

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twix2500 wrote:
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Don’t start this dumb ish again
You are lmao!!!

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I don’t tweet lol I’m there for the memes and Heat and NBA info/news
Thats all i go on there for is news. I see people posting word for word what you are all saying on here on Twitter. **** like an alternate universe lol

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Post#1677 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:59 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:You are lmao!!!

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I don’t tweet lol I’m there for the memes and Heat and NBA info/news
Thats all i go on there for is news. I see people posting word for word what you are all saying on here on Twitter. **** like an alternate universe lol

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:lol:

They do lurk here, I remember they posted a screenshot of some shot I said before and then we started talking to them about trade and free agency news lol
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Post#1678 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:36 am


Nice to see Jovic back on the court. Just another body that Spo will never play in the end though.
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Post#1679 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:45 am

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Nice to see Jovic back on the court. Just another body that Spo will never play in the end though.


He’s going to have a pretty solid career in Portland
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Post#1680 » by eddieheatfan » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:21 am

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Nice to see Jovic back on the court. Just another body that Spo will never play in the end though.



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kid still looks raw in my opinion. is going to take sometime to mold it to NBA talent

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