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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 5.0 - Somebody save us 

Post#1681 » by Eagle4 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:50 am

Dame was always Lowry 2.0.
I was one of the few saying I wasn't for trading the "Dame package" for Dame due to his age. We've seen multiple, multiple elite guards turn into pumpkins right around when they hit their mid 30s. Usually due to injury and or simply wear and tear from constantly slashing, torque, body contortions that just took a toll on their bodies and thus they're unable to play elite as CONSISTENTLY night in and night out.

The argument for Dame is that he'd be the undisputed number 1 option with the ball in his hands as much as Portland.

However, again Dame IMHO probably has this year and next to even be a 22ppg 7apg before potentially dropping off 17 and 6 at age 37 onwards (if that). By then Herro is a 26ppg elsewhere, JJJ officially looks like Jimmy 2.0 and Jovic looking like his another triple double threat offensive dynamo ala Jokic/ Luka but on a lesser scale.

The prospect of Dame is a very tantalizing scenario but we're at a similar place that we were at in '05. Having young assets that would be packaged for a star. This time around the trade didn't materialize. Well let's see where this Bam/Herro/Jovic/JJJ goes moving forward. I'm excited either way. :D
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Post#1682 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:58 am

Eagle4 wrote:Dame was always Lowry 2.0.
I was one of the few saying I wasn't for trading the "Dame package" for Dame due to his age. We've seen multiple, multiple elite guards turn into pumpkins right around when they hit their mid 30s. Usually due to injury and or simply wear and tear from constantly slashing, torque, body contortions that just took a toll on their bodies and thus they're unable to play elite as CONSISTENTLY night in and night out.

The argument for Dame is that he'd be the undisputed number 1 option with the ball in his hands as much as Portland.

However, again Dame IMHO probably has this year and next to even be a 22ppg 7apg before potentially dropping off 17 and 6 at age 37 onwards (if that). By then Herro is a 26ppg elsewhere, JJJ officially looks like Jimmy 2.0 and Jovic looking like his another triple double threat offensive dynamo ala Jokic/ Luka but on a lesser scale.

The prospect of Dame is a very tantalizing scenario but we're at a similar place that we were at in '05. Having young assets that would be packaged for a star. This time around the trade didn't materialize. Well let's see where this Bam/Herro/Jovic/JJJ goes moving forward. I'm excited either way. :D


Jovic is more Sabonis than Jokic/Luka, lol.
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Post#1683 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:01 am

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Do we select a RoTY from the Eastern Conference and one from the WC now? Then I could see, but not the way he's been playing recently, lol. Still a plus contributor but he's locked into the third spot at best


Hopefully, JJJ develops like Bam and Herro did.
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Post#1684 » by NightWatch » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:39 am

Is there a reason why Duncan is not in nba all star 3 pt contest?
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Post#1685 » by Beenie » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:50 am

NightWatch wrote:Is there a reason why Duncan is not in nba all star 3 pt contest?


I blame Spo
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Post#1686 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:41 pm





If he can just hit the open 3's, he really is a perfect fit.
His floor game is awesome : great defender, great rebounder, great A/TO ratio, plays hard.

Just take the open 3's and he's a lock to get 20 minutes a night.
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Post#1687 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:57 pm

I think people need to check expectations. Delon averaged 14mpg on arguably the worst team in the league.
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Post#1688 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:48 pm

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unowen85 wrote:Pretty awesome for Bam to go from barely making it on as a reserve to now starting the game.

Doc Rivers has a hard on for Bam, Windy made a note of that when he called around to coaches asking for DPOY votes one year that Bam finished top 3 in votes. Isnt he the coach of the East this year made sense that he regards 2 way players higher than premier scorers.


That being said, Bam was a lock for an all star spot like 10-15 games into the season lmao
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Post#1689 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:50 pm

ZoStrong wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Trading for Dame gave us a much better chance of winning a championship over the next few years regardless of how we want to spin it. We would’ve lost some guys but we had several vets waiting on the deal to be made that wanted to sign with us after, when they got word it wasn’t happening they went elsewhere.

This team “could” still win it all but I think we need Hornets Terry, playoff Jimmy has to stay healthy, Herro has to contribute and impact winning his 21 points on 20 shot games aren’t going to cut it, and Bam has to be more efficient offensively this year as well.

Not getting Dame did open more opportunities and kept the “Bams friends” dream alive. If we’re able to get DM via trade or free agency within the next 2 years I think it was probably worth missing out on Dame at this point. The FO has to hit on a big one soon, DM was basically begging to be here before being traded (he knew what he was doing coming to Miami pro league every night and eating up the Miami Heat chants) so let’s hope he still wants to. Best bet may be on opt in and trade like we just saw with KP to the Celtics.


He's certainly not giving the Bucks a much better chance to win it all, lol


They were better than last year when they fired their coach lol but regardless of that he’s not being used right in Milwaukee. Stars raise your ceiling.
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Post#1690 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:51 pm

ZoStrong wrote:Never ever pay a premium for an old, short pg with no defense. I'd been happy to have him at our price, but older stars, you wanna pick them up like we did w Love. At a serious discount. Like we've done w Payton, Walker, Zo (when he came back for the championship), RayRay, etc. Otherwise we would often end up like how we did w Kyle Lowry, lol


Dame is currently far better than all those guys when we acquired him, like literally not even close :lol:
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Post#1691 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:54 pm

Eagle4 wrote:Dame was always Lowry 2.0.
I was one of the few saying I wasn't for trading the "Dame package" for Dame due to his age. We've seen multiple, multiple elite guards turn into pumpkins right around when they hit their mid 30s. Usually due to injury and or simply wear and tear from constantly slashing, torque, body contortions that just took a toll on their bodies and thus they're unable to play elite as CONSISTENTLY night in and night out.

The argument for Dame is that he'd be the undisputed number 1 option with the ball in his hands as much as Portland.

However, again Dame IMHO probably has this year and next to even be a 22ppg 7apg before potentially dropping off 17 and 6 at age 37 onwards (if that). By then Herro is a 26ppg elsewhere, JJJ officially looks like Jimmy 2.0 and Jovic looking like his another triple double threat offensive dynamo ala Jokic/ Luka but on a lesser scale.

The prospect of Dame is a very tantalizing scenario but we're at a similar place that we were at in '05. Having young assets that would be packaged for a star. This time around the trade didn't materialize. Well let's see where this Bam/Herro/Jovic/JJJ goes moving forward. I'm excited either way. :D


Dame won’t be 37 for another 4 years
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Post#1692 » by Eagle4 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:56 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Eagle4 wrote:Dame was always Lowry 2.0.
I was one of the few saying I wasn't for trading the "Dame package" for Dame due to his age. We've seen multiple, multiple elite guards turn into pumpkins right around when they hit their mid 30s. Usually due to injury and or simply wear and tear from constantly slashing, torque, body contortions that just took a toll on their bodies and thus they're unable to play elite as CONSISTENTLY night in and night out.

The argument for Dame is that he'd be the undisputed number 1 option with the ball in his hands as much as Portland.

However, again Dame IMHO probably has this year and next to even be a 22ppg 7apg before potentially dropping off 17 and 6 at age 37 onwards (if that). By then Herro is a 26ppg elsewhere, JJJ officially looks like Jimmy 2.0 and Jovic looking like his another triple double threat offensive dynamo ala Jokic/ Luka but on a lesser scale.

The prospect of Dame is a very tantalizing scenario but we're at a similar place that we were at in '05. Having young assets that would be packaged for a star. This time around the trade didn't materialize. Well let's see where this Bam/Herro/Jovic/JJJ goes moving forward. I'm excited either way. :D


Dame won’t be 37 for another 4 years
Actually 3 but yea. He'll be 34 in like 50 days. Either way I don't see him aging gracefully like a cp3 whose game isn't as predicated on quick movements like Dame but mainly b ball iq and that can only go so far. Lowry was a 'fool me once' situation that I'm glad the front office dodged due to ****nin's pettiness.
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Post#1693 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:58 pm

Eagle4 wrote:
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Eagle4 wrote:Dame was always Lowry 2.0.
I was one of the few saying I wasn't for trading the "Dame package" for Dame due to his age. We've seen multiple, multiple elite guards turn into pumpkins right around when they hit their mid 30s. Usually due to injury and or simply wear and tear from constantly slashing, torque, body contortions that just took a toll on their bodies and thus they're unable to play elite as CONSISTENTLY night in and night out.

The argument for Dame is that he'd be the undisputed number 1 option with the ball in his hands as much as Portland.

However, again Dame IMHO probably has this year and next to even be a 22ppg 7apg before potentially dropping off 17 and 6 at age 37 onwards (if that). By then Herro is a 26ppg elsewhere, JJJ officially looks like Jimmy 2.0 and Jovic looking like his another triple double threat offensive dynamo ala Jokic/ Luka but on a lesser scale.

The prospect of Dame is a very tantalizing scenario but we're at a similar place that we were at in '05. Having young assets that would be packaged for a star. This time around the trade didn't materialize. Well let's see where this Bam/Herro/Jovic/JJJ goes moving forward. I'm excited either way. :D


Dame won’t be 37 for another 4 years
3 but yea. He'll be 34 in like 50 days.


He’ll be an all star every remaining year of his contract
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Post#1694 » by Eagle4 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:05 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Eagle4 wrote:
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Dame won’t be 37 for another 4 years
3 but yea. He'll be 34 in like 50 days.


He’ll be an all star every remaining year of his contract

Eh, If he does that's not saying much lol. Allstar voting is mainly predicated on popularity as we already know. For instance he shouldn't have even been a starter THIS year.
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Post#1695 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:14 pm

Eagle4 wrote:
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Eagle4 wrote:3 but yea. He'll be 34 in like 50 days.


He’ll be an all star every remaining year of his contract

Eh, If he does that's not saying much lol. Allstar voting is mainly predicated on popularity as we already know. For instance he shouldn't have even been a starter THIS year.


Definitely shouldn’t have been a starter, DM got shafted there. I think he’d be top 5 or so for MVP if he were here with the bulk of the offense running through him
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Post#1696 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:50 pm

Let Dame rot in that frozen hell hole with Giannis the snake.
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Post#1697 » by DBurks2818 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:14 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I think people need to check expectations. Delon averaged 14mpg on arguably the worst team in the league.


True, but wasn’t he playing behind a solid starter in Tyus Jones, and a tank commander in Jordan Poole?
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Post#1698 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:07 am

DBurks2818 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I think people need to check expectations. Delon averaged 14mpg on arguably the worst team in the league.


True, but wasn’t he playing behind a solid starter in Tyus Jones, and a tank commander in Jordan Poole?


Even so with both those guys averaging 30mpg, that leaves 36mpg of which he got 14mpg. Just saying to not get your hopes up too high with these bold predictions. I just hope he pans out and contribute.
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Post#1699 » by gom » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:15 am

Signing Delon also means we can play are two-way players the rest of the season every night. He's not a very good player, but we've managed to make Cody Zeller into a bench player. I doubt Delon is worse than him.
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Post#1700 » by Enso » Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:51 am

gom wrote:Signing Delon also means we can play are two-way players the rest of the season every night. He's not a very good player, but we've managed to make Cody Zeller into a bench player. I doubt Delon is worse than him.


I think if we manage expectations we’ll be happy. Worst case he’s a defensive pest but struggles on O, getting a small role off the bench. Best case he really kills it on the defensive end, really anchoring our perimeter d, shoots above average from 3 and becomes key rotational piece.

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