2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4

[MettaWorldPanda]

Middleton has tormented us so many times throughout the years. Hopefully he has some quality golden years left. He should be good for the young guys in the lockerroom

[DayofMourning]

That PHX 31 is worth more than the 3 firsts it got traded for in my eyes. Unprotected pick right when PHX is likely going to be rebuilding. Sheesh.

However, the 25 pick coming to Miami opens up their picks I believe.

25 pick to Miami should ease the heartburn of many fans about being hamstrung by the protected OKC pick. Miami should be a better team next season than this season.

Developmental season the rest of the way while still trying to be competitive. I'm not mad at all if Miami ends up getting to add to the roster with a 2025 lotto pick and then conveys the 2026 unprotected pick to OKC, while potentially having access to more picks to move in pursuit of whatever becomes available.

We could add another true big or a lead guard with our lottery and use whatever picks we have to go for Fox. Thats the quickest talent infusion.

[greg4012]

I hope Middleton gets rerouted. We don’t want to see what Middleton and Duncan look like defensively. We need on ball perimeter defenders in our backcourt

I can't say I've watched the Bucks much this season or paid any particular attention to Middleton, but I find it curious that he has the best DRTG of any of the main rotation players on the squad. Is it just more time playing with good defenders (and maybe less time with Dame)?

[MiamiLoyal926]

We need a 2026 pick in this trade for sure!!! That way we can tank this year for Flagg, give OKC our 2026 pick, and still be able to convey the 2027 pick to Charlotte. Would be icing if we could also get a 2028 pick… that way we loosen the 2029 pick as well for a Fox trade.

[Beenie]

This will be Ware's team at some point, guy has the look to him. I am starting to think he is going end up a 25/13-15 guy with 2 plus blocks a night and a DPOY contender. I ask again if he does in fact become that, is it going to be worth paying Bam 50+ million to try to fit into the 4 spot, or are you better off exchanging him for another max tier player in a different role?

These are the hard questions that will come to the table when talking about building a post 2026 championship contender, is Bam making 50+ million approaching age 30 worth it if you have a true 5 who is capable of playing at an all star level still on his rookie deal when that team is formed? Might be better getting a different fit than trying to shove a round peg through a square hole. Need to see Bam and Ware start 20-30 games before this can really be answered. That is what I am watching the rest of this year.

Hopefully Mia has learned something from the ‘2 timeline’ experiment over these last several years.

Bam is in his prime and the team isn’t ready to compete.

Should trade him in the offseason and reload their stock of picks n assets while developing Ware and figuring out what the long term vision ought to look like.

I can see the allure of a Bam/OKC trade. I really can. Itd be a benenfit to both teams.

However, Bam aint going anywhere. He does all the little things on the floor and in the locker room that we value. Hes our culture leader.

Or maybe Houston.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Middleton has tormented us so many times throughout the years. Hopefully he has some quality golden years left. He should be good for the young guys in the lockerroom

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I’m hoping we get him, we need big game performers. His mid range game is nasty.

[greg4012]

You all were saying this about Jaime last year lol

I think people were high on Jamie I still am. But he has never been nor will he be an all star level talent. Ware very much truly is

I think if we get into a situation where it is Bam or Ware for this team, I am now in the camp that I would rather have Ware.

It's hilarious how eager people are to make everything one player vs the other

[DayofMourning]

Middleton has tormented us so many times throughout the years. Hopefully he has some quality golden years left. He should be good for the young guys in the lockerroom

Locker room bonus for sure.

Maybe he can even raise his value for another move down the road.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think people were high on Jamie I still am. But he has never been nor will he be an all star level talent. Ware very much truly is

I think if we get into a situation where it is Bam or Ware for this team, I am now in the camp that I would rather have Ware.

It's hilarious how eager people are to make everything one player vs the other

I know holy ****

Bam gets way too much disrespect for being a multiple time all star, 5 year all defensive player, major catalyst to several deep playoffs runs, and 2 time Olympic gold medalist.

Everyone was bitching and crying when he was averaging 22-10-5 because he wasn’t shooting 3s, now he’s shooting 3s and playing out on the perimeter more and people aren’t willing to be patient and let the growing pains happen.

[MiamiLoyal926]

I do feel a paint attacking and elite passing point guard would do wonders for the Ware/Bam minutes.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Ware has the 4th best odds for ROY

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[batterybro42]

I think people were high on Jamie I still am. But he has never been nor will he be an all star level talent. Ware very much truly is

I think if we get into a situation where it is Bam or Ware for this team, I am now in the camp that I would rather have Ware.

It's hilarious how eager people are to make everything one player vs the other

Well when they play the same position it kinda matters don't you think?

[MettaWorldPanda]

I do feel a paint attacking and elite passing point guard would do wonders for the Ware/Bam minutes.

Ball or Brogdon are the available stop gap options.

[greg4012]

It's hilarious how eager people are to make everything one player vs the other

Well when they play the same position it kinda matters don't you think?

It's all about skillsets. If they complement each other and serve the scheme that the team prioritizes, then what's bad about having 2 guys that CAN play center and PLAY together?? If they can fit together on offense, then there is no concern on defense. I promise you that Bam can guard PFs better than basically every PF in the NBA

Do you think CLE's frontcourt is a dire crisis that needs to be resolved?

[batterybro42]

It's hilarious how eager people are to make everything one player vs the other

I know holy ****

Bam gets way too much disrespect for being a multiple time all star, 5 year all defensive player, major catalyst to several deep playoffs runs, and 2 time Olympic gold medalist.

Everyone was bitching and crying when he was averaging 22-10-5 because he wasn’t shooting 3s, now he’s shooting 3s and playing out on the perimeter more and people aren’t willing to be patient and let the growing pains happen.

Not many rational people believe that a career 25% 3PT shooter can suddenly become efficient from that range, maybe you can provide some similar times that players have developed like that in their late 20s

[KingHomer21]

MEMPHIS

Sir, do you have any other updates or info?. I understand some other posters won't appreciate or care but I do, haha.


If Raptors are even involved in this thing, man I would love Davion Mitchell over Bruce Brown.

[MettaWorldPanda]

A team going from 6’5 Haywood Highsmith to Bam at PF is a massive upgrade. Team was missing Herro last night to break down defenses. We need players that can penetrate and dish to Ware and Bam. We currently only have one in Herro and that ain’t enough.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Some comparisons on older bigs developing 3 points shots:

Horford didn’t begin shooting 3s until his age 29 season, his first season he was at 34% on 3.1 attempts.

Bosh didn’t begin shooting 3s until his age 29 season where he shot 34% on 2.8 attempts. This was the last year of the big 3 so that’s actually pretty shocking to see.

Brook Lopez didn’t begin shooting 3s until his age 28 season where he shot 35% on 5.2 attempts. Went from not shooting them to literally just gunning from 3 lol

Bam has begun at his age 27 season and is currently at 29% on 2.6 attempts but that could very easily jump or decrease as the season goes on, just depends on a hot or cold streak.

Bams getting started 2 years earlier than Bosh and Horford and a year earlier than Lopez. I’m hoping as he continues to develop here he gets up to 38%-40% on 4-5 attempts a night next season or the 1 after.

I wanted to take it 1 step further and eliminate grenades as Bam in 38 games has taken 23 grenade 3s already this season compared to Lopez taking 23 (75 games), Bosh taking 28 (79 games) and Horford 32 (82 games). We for whatever reason can’t find Bam for easy lobs and dump offs but we always know how to find him with 3 seconds left on the clock lol

Without grenades Bosh was at 34%, Horford was at 34%, Lopez is at 35%, and Bam is at 32% so much more along the lines of those guys when just shooting in the flow of the offense their 1st years becoming shooters.

Already done battery, here you go.

[MettaWorldPanda]

MEMPHIS

Sir, do you have any other updates or info?. I understand some other posters won't appreciate or care but I do, haha.


If Raptors are even involved in this thing, man I would love Davion Mitchell over Bruce Brown.

Working trade checker numbers it looks like Mitchell might make more sense over Brown. If Terry is involved then that opens the door for both Brown and Mitchell to come.