2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports/Lies) 6.0

[MIA]

I have been a James fan from the start and a heat fan, so I am not trolling. I am realistic, I am making opinion based on how poor the heat role players are/ Wade and Bosh can be given health and matchups.

So you're a Lebron fan?

[heatlespeatles]

Let's all take off the homer glasses. I hate the Cavs as much as anyone, but even I know that Wiggins is the best defender to go number one overall since LeBron James himself. The only thing Wiggins does right right now is defense. He's passive on the offensive end because he can barely shoot and relies on athleticism. That Cavs team has pieces, but I doubt they have enough pieces to attract LeBron there. The Heat have a lot more playoff ready pieces. The Cavs need a few years to even think about the playoffs. They are like the Kings of the East.

lol please stop hyping a player who has yet to play a single second in the league. He is passive. Nothing about his stint in college makes me believe he's shutting down anybody in the playoffs. Lebron must really love Akron to come to cleveland to babysit these lil ninjas

I'm not "hyping" him, you're just showing pure homerism and it makes other Heat fans look bad. There are good players on other teams, you know.

The Heat with Lebron are a better team than the current Cavs with Lebron. I've watched enough ball to know that. The Cavs aren't ready, maybe in 3 years. MAYBE...

Kyrie isn't that good and i reckon his game isn't conducive to playoff basketball, his game is best in an all-star game where no one plays any defense

Wiggins could be a bust no one knows. His offense sucks for the most part, he can barely create his own shot or for others. His handles are bad.

i don't even think i need to address any other player on that team.

LeBron wants to win now, win now with a re-tooled MIA team or go back to Cleveland and babysit these dudes for 3 years and MAAAAAYBE you get to the Finals.

[Eaglenugget]

@Stugotz790: #1 reason Lebron stays in Miami? Doesn't have the guts to tell UD he's leaving.

Love stugotz

[fsuizzy]

I didn't see this angle coming... Of course it's from New York FAKE



http://nypost.com/2014/07/08/decisions- ... elo-in-ny/

Yeah, so then Melo signs for 5-$129m and Lebron for 4 years $88m.

Dream on.

YuP NEW YORK FAKE

[An0nym1ty]

Or he has been recruiting on the low? Or he wants Riley to improve the squad that's why he has threatening him? Riley scouting for LeBron? LeBron waiting to see how much will he take to add a big name FA like Gasol?

There's another simple possibility no one has mentioned yet. The media. LeBron's free agent status alone is a cottage industry right now. He benefits from dominating the news in July, the basketball media benefits from him dominating the news in July, and his boy Rich Paul (along with the rest of them) benefit from him dominating the news in July. Plus, the more people hype up this war for LeBron, the more his own value increases. As much as people hated The Decision, who else could even get a Decision with a capital d televised on ESPN like that? All his people and all the media people are aware of that.

Maybe he has his mind made up, maybe he doesn't. But it's not impossible to believe that maybe the PR people around him and the media people and anyone else with influence around him suggested, if he already knew, to draw it out anyways.

This is a win-win for him. The fan base thing is a zero-sum game if you think about it, so that shouldn't be too big of a factor. Leave for Cleveland and he wins them back but loses Miami. Stay in Miami and he keeps us but doesn't gain Cleveland back. But this is an opportunity, once again, to remind everyone just how much he is valued as a player, to have his name associated with championships again, especially coming off a bad Finals loss. For Rich Paul it's a huge opportunity to dominate the news. For the NBA media it's an opportunity to have the league dominate the sports media landscape, even in the midst of the World Cup. And it allows LeBron to do his due diligence and keep his options truly open, for one to see what Miami can add, and also to see if Cleveland can get motivated to pull off an impressive trade that might truly swing him over to them.

LeBron not signing with Miami right away means nothing. I mean, if he's set on Cleveland, why hasn't he signed with them yet, either? There are many plausible angles to explain why he hasn't publicly made up his mind yet.

[Temuhjan]

I think it's safe to say that Bron is holding up on purpose. I think 1 reason might be to somewhat "stall" bigger names like Lance, Pau, and names of that matter. Teams like the Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets HAVE to wait on those second tier players because of that chance of getting Bron (or Melo). It gives Riley time to find good pieces at the right price with the hope that maybe some high price FA drop their number because of the lack of FA movements around the league. The meeting tmrw could very well be Riley telling him so and so wants this much and this person this much. Now it's up to Bron to decide if any of those players may be worth a "paycut".

With that said I have no idea what else the hold up could be. If he was going back he'd announce it already.

+1. But given what we have learned from the McRoberts and Granger offers, we are only able to sign new players through S&T, TPE and vet's min. I doubt we can lure Lance, Pau or names of that matter.

[fsuizzy]

I am confident Wiggins can guard better than Wade if Wade is unhealthy within a year or so.

I'm confident that you are a ******* *****

I am guessing you don't watch college basketball then. GTFO

[manuscriptpoly]

I'd say the only reason why LeBron would go to Cleveland is because they have legitimately convinced him they can move those pieces they have for veterans. The Cavs have a lot of pieces, I give them that. I can't see any other reason why he'd want to go. Repairing his image? I don't know.

[An0nym1ty]

I'd say the only reason why LeBron would go to Cleveland is because they have legitimately convinced him they can move those pieces they have for veterans. The Cavs have a lot of pieces, I give them that. I can't see any other reason why he'd want to go. Repairing his image? I don't know.

And if all those reports about LeBron wanting to see what Riley could add before committing to Miami were true, why would he suddenly put blind faith in Cleveland without even having met face to face with any member of their front office, their coach, or the owner?

[heatlespeatles]

I think it's safe to say that Bron is holding up on purpose. I think 1 reason might be to somewhat "stall" bigger names like Lance, Pau, and names of that matter. Teams like the Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets HAVE to wait on those second tier players because of that chance of getting Bron (or Melo). It gives Riley time to find good pieces at the right price with the hope that maybe some high price FA drop their number because of the lack of FA movements around the league. The meeting tmrw could very well be Riley telling him so and so wants this much and this person this much. Now it's up to Bron to decide if any of those players may be worth a "paycut".

With that said I have no idea what else the hold up could be. If he was going back he'd announce it already.

+1. But given what we have learned from the McRoberts and Granger offers, we are only able to sign new players through S&T, TPE and vet's min. I doubt we can lure Lance, Pau or names of that matter.

i tell you this, out of anyone we picked up, we needed Pau.

And straight up if we don't get Pau, we better get Jordan Hill....or that headless chicken defense we play will be the death of us, again.

[MIA]

I am confident Wiggins can guard better than Wade if Wade is unhealthy within a year or so.

I'm confident that you are a ******* *****

I am guessing you don't watch college basketball then. GTFO

Its posts like these that make you seem like a troll. You don't know that he doesn't watch college ball... why tell him to gtfo?

[fsuizzy]

I am confident Wiggins can guard better than Wade if Wade is unhealthy within a year or so.

I'm confident that you are a ******* *****

I am guessing you don't watch college basketball then. GTFO

Just to add to this, this is like saying the Best college team can beat the worst NBA team. But in this case you have a top 5 point guard and not the Best college players so again GTFO. WiGGIN's would get schooled.

[Eaglenugget]

I think it's safe to say that Bron is holding up on purpose. I think 1 reason might be to somewhat "stall" bigger names like Lance, Pau, and names of that matter. Teams like the Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets HAVE to wait on those second tier players because of that chance of getting Bron (or Melo). It gives Riley time to find good pieces at the right price with the hope that maybe some high price FA drop their number because of the lack of FA movements around the league. The meeting tmrw could very well be Riley telling him so and so wants this much and this person this much. Now it's up to Bron to decide if any of those players may be worth a "paycut".

With that said I have no idea what else the hold up could be. If he was going back he'd announce it already.

+1. But given what we have learned from the McRoberts and Granger offers, we are only able to sign new players through S&T, TPE and vet's min. I doubt we can lure Lance, Pau or names of that matter.

Maybe the market just wasn't there for them. I mean Anthony freaking Morrow wants to see how the market works out. Not even going to mention the Meeks deal to kick of FA.

[Dmcdani6]

I think it's safe to say that Bron is holding up on purpose. I think 1 reason might be to somewhat "stall" bigger names like Lance, Pau, and names of that matter. Teams like the Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets HAVE to wait on those second tier players because of that chance of getting Bron (or Melo). It gives Riley time to find good pieces at the right price with the hope that maybe some high price FA drop their number because of the lack of FA movements around the league. The meeting tmrw could very well be Riley telling him so and so wants this much and this person this much. Now it's up to Bron to decide if any of those players may be worth a "paycut".

With that said I have no idea what else the hold up could be. If he was going back he'd announce it already.

Go on.... I think you might have a point.

[2thehoopand1]

@Stugotz790: #1 reason Lebron stays in Miami? Doesn't have the guts to tell UD he's leaving.

Love stugotz

This lol

[Heat_Fan_87]

the only sway cleveland has is if his wife and kids say they want to be there. i dont see that happening.

[fast-break]

I think he gone yall.

No way he breaks the hearts of Clevelanders again. If he was locked into going to Miami, he would be recruiting with Riley right now and getting this roster set. 

Recruiting who though? No one was exactly dying to take less money for a reduced role for a team that got blown out in the Finals.

This free agency has been all about the $$$. Haven't heard of a single "steal" yet.

I have no sources, but I truly think one phone call from LeBron saying he's committed to Miami and he wants Gasol in South Beach could make it very possible.

Why would Gasol want to play with Melo over LeBron? His role in Miami won't be reduced at all, he would be a very much needed post presence.

So, 34 year old Pau Gasol with bad knees was pretty much the cherry on top for Pat.

Not to say he wouldn't have been a big + over McBob/Granger but that was pretty much what was in the bag this year.

And...Pau has spent 6 years with Kobe, dealing with Melo would not be much of a change, at worse.

Now if he does end up somewhere like The Thunder where he's getting significantly less then yeah maybe Bron could have swayed him, or he's just really big on OKC being the better shot at a title, and quite frankly if taking MLE id have to go with the latter.

[Johnny Firpo]

This is a good post. Everyone needs to read this post.

He had some valid points until the Blatt part, when the post took a nose dive.

[Dmcdani6]

I personally think, if Lebron had committed earlier, maybe Pau would've considered it more? I dont think we're in the running for him now, unless something crazy happens.

But, I personally dont see why Pau would go anywhere besides stay in LA or MIA. Maybe Spurs? I guess I understand though, gotta get that money.

[PaulieWal]

This is a good post. Everyone needs to read this post.

He had some valid points until the Blatt part, when the post took a nose dive.

Why? Blatt is a rookie NBA coach. I actually think he will be good (eventually) but there will be some growing pains.