Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max

[Chalm Down]

Chalm Down, teams are working anywhere from a 95M to an 89M estimate of total cap space. In my calculations now I'm using $92M.
A higher cap means more space to sign Wade and Whiteside, but it also raises the max salary. Note that it does no good to extend a 4 year contract to Wade because of the "over 37" rule which adds more salary to the cap for the extra years. Also note that I kept Wade & Whiteside caps so we can give 7.5% raises using Bird and Early Bird rights (respectively). I also waived Green. McRoberts hasn't been traded. If he is gone, there may be room for Deng.

Thanks, this is really informative . I've been trying to understand more of this cap stuff as the offseason gets closer.

Quick question, what is the purpose of that $543,471 figure that you've allotted for a couple of guys?

$543,471 is the minimum rookie contract for 2016-7. You must have 12 players signed or use an incomplete roster charge placeholder. Here is the item in the CBA:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

Remember, though, that all these numbers are fuzzy until the league designates the cap in July.

Thanks again for the info realGom

It's going to be really interesting to see what the Heat do with all of their free agents this summer...not to mention the guys they may be trying to bring in from other teams.

[cyclix]

"With my brother CB down, my role go up... "

Music to my ears

[Mars]

Well, I've some good news for you Flash4thewin. According to "Albert" from HeatHoops, who dedicates an unhealthy part of his life to the CBA, we *can* offer more than other teams for Whiteside.

Here is our exchange:




A link to the article (about Josh Richardson):

http://heathoops.com/2016/03/josh-richardson-is-very-much-a-part-of-miami-heats-future/#more-27822

Anyway, I'm as much a fan of Whiteside as any of you, but sometimes your player-fanninness is annoying af. Capice?

That's precisely how I thought it functioned...

Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:08 pm
Again at this point its been crystal clear Whiteside is in the drivers seat on where he wants to go.

Pat cant offer more money, cant offer more years and oh yeah our current Max Franchise player is Bosh who is a center so we cant even offer a starting position. So yeah it is what it is.

Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:29 pm
Technically Riley can offer more money. While the HEAT is restricted to offering a four-year contract, just like every other team, they hold Hassan's Early-Bird Rights. This gives Miami the advantage of applying 7.5% yearly raises to the deal while other teams are limited to the standard 4.5% yearly raises.

Link

...Thanks for hitting up Albert to get answers.

[Durrrtysouth]

I don't know if any of you follow Hassan on Snapchat, something interesting he posted today made me think and maybe a glimpse into what he is thinking. He posted a cartoon of a basketball game. He said something in reference to the character that was superior, he said something to the effect of "give him the hundred million contract".

Again, maybe it's nothing but then again this is interesting that today's player thinks 100 Million is the benchmark to shoot for.

[HIF]

I don't know if any of you follow Hassan on Snapchat, something interesting he posted today made me think and maybe a glimpse into what he is thinking. He posted a cartoon of a basketball game. He said something in reference to the character that was superior, he said something to the effect of "give him the hundred million contract".

Again, maybe it's nothing but then again this is interesting that today's player thinks 100 Million is the benchmark to shoot for.

Does he think of himself as the best in the Heat team let alone in the league?

[gom]

I don't know if any of you follow Hassan on Snapchat, something interesting he posted today made me think and maybe a glimpse into what he is thinking. He posted a cartoon of a basketball game. He said something in reference to the character that was superior, he said something to the effect of "give him the hundred million contract".

Again, maybe it's nothing but then again this is interesting that today's player thinks 100 Million is the benchmark to shoot for.

Yeah, that's not what he says in the snap chat. He says "He's going for the max", referring to the cartoon that's doing the SpaceJam move leaping over everyone. In context it's exactly right.

I did see the Panda Bear character too! MWP connection is proven.

Hassan is hilarious. I love how he shares the stories with his little brother and nephew. Also, I didn't know his muscles were full of air.

[RexBoyWonder]

Q: Are we past the point of wondering if Pat Riley will do whatever he can to keep Hassan Whiteside? -- Stone, Miami.


A: Nope. Not until every free-agent permutation is explored. Look, I couldn't see why Kevin Durant would want to come to Miami without Hassan also being in the mix (or envision Durant leaving for anything but a championship contender), but I do know that Pat Riley and Andy Elisburg do their due diligence on every potential option, getting into the interview room with just about all candidates. But I do believe the Heat will not place Hassan on hold too long. He is a fascinating piece of the youthful core the Heat have built with Justise Winslow, Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson. They would be no better gift from Riley as he winds down his front-office career than a future for his roster.

Honestly I wouldn't waste our time. Durant won't commit this summer, It makes no financial or on-court sense.

Go after Hassan First, secure him. Every indication is that he loves it here and wants to stay. He's Also a big selling point to Durant anyway. Then, we can go after Durant, if for some reason he agrees (Extremely unlikely, less then 1% IMO) , We can then move everyone but Wade and the Rookies to create the space. That's Basically Dragic and Mcbob, Since Deng and JJ are free agents anyway and rookies make small change.

But really, next year will be a year long audition for us to impress Durant and any other Superstar - If we do really well with all our young pieces playing big parts - We have a shot in 2017.

[QUIZ]

Q: Are we past the point of wondering if Pat Riley will do whatever he can to keep Hassan Whiteside? -- Stone, Miami.


A: Nope. Not until every free-agent permutation is explored. Look, I couldn't see why Kevin Durant would want to come to Miami without Hassan also being in the mix (or envision Durant leaving for anything but a championship contender), but I do know that Pat Riley and Andy Elisburg do their due diligence on every potential option, getting into the interview room with just about all candidates. But I do believe the Heat will not place Hassan on hold too long. He is a fascinating piece of the youthful core the Heat have built with Justise Winslow, Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson. They would be no better gift from Riley as he winds down his front-office career than a future for his roster.

Honestly I wouldn't waste our time. Durant won't commit this summer, It makes no financial or on-court sense.

Go after Hassan First, secure him. Every indication is that he loves it here and wants to stay. He's Also a big selling point to Durant anyway. Then, we can go after Durant, if for some reason he agrees (Extremely unlikely, less then 1% IMO) , We can then move everyone but Wade and the Rookies to create the space. That's Basically Dragic and Mcbob, Since Deng and JJ are free agents anyway and rookies make small change.

But really, next year will be a year long audition for us to impress Durant and any other Superstar - If we do really well with all our young pieces playing big parts - We have a shot in 2017.

It all depends on how we do this post season.

[perempe20]

Let him shoot mid-range jumpers, he's already better than Wade and LeBron in that category.

[Bourne85]

Imo Durant is gonna team up with Curry. And I don't blame him.

[TroubleS0me]

Imo Durant is gonna team up with Curry. And I don't blame him.

It wouldnt be a good move for his brand

[Flash4thewin]

Q: Are we past the point of wondering if Pat Riley will do whatever he can to keep Hassan Whiteside? -- Stone, Miami.


A: Nope. Not until every free-agent permutation is explored. Look, I couldn't see why Kevin Durant would want to come to Miami without Hassan also being in the mix (or envision Durant leaving for anything but a championship contender), but I do know that Pat Riley and Andy Elisburg do their due diligence on every potential option, getting into the interview room with just about all candidates. But I do believe the Heat will not place Hassan on hold too long. He is a fascinating piece of the youthful core the Heat have built with Justise Winslow, Tyler Johnson and Josh Richardson. They would be no better gift from Riley as he winds down his front-office career than a future for his roster.

Honestly I wouldn't waste our time. Durant won't commit this summer, It makes no financial or on-court sense.

Go after Hassan First, secure him. Every indication is that he loves it here and wants to stay. He's Also a big selling point to Durant anyway. Then, we can go after Durant, if for some reason he agrees (Extremely unlikely, less then 1% IMO) , We can then move everyone but Wade and the Rookies to create the space. That's Basically Dragic and Mcbob, Since Deng and JJ are free agents anyway and rookies make small change.

But really, next year will be a year long audition for us to impress Durant and any other Superstar - If we do really well with all our young pieces playing big parts - We have a shot in 2017.

It all depends on how we do this post season.

Not really. If we do well this offseason we are then forced into to looking to keep Deng who will command more than 10+ as a PF. Wade will have every reason to command a salary starting at over 15+ mil a year and Whiteside will do what his best for him. Money will run out quickly and eat up into 2017 when we would realistically have a shot at Durant.

[Flash4thewin]

Imo Durant is gonna team up with Curry. And I don't blame him.

It wouldnt be a good move for his brand

Winning is best thing for your brand. Why do you think Lebron came here? The best move for Durant would be to team up with Curry. We may not like it but the best thing for his brand would be to team up with Curry.

[QUIZ]

Honestly I wouldn't waste our time. Durant won't commit this summer, It makes no financial or on-court sense.

Go after Hassan First, secure him. Every indication is that he loves it here and wants to stay. He's Also a big selling point to Durant anyway. Then, we can go after Durant, if for some reason he agrees (Extremely unlikely, less then 1% IMO) , We can then move everyone but Wade and the Rookies to create the space. That's Basically Dragic and Mcbob, Since Deng and JJ are free agents anyway and rookies make small change.

But really, next year will be a year long audition for us to impress Durant and any other Superstar - If we do really well with all our young pieces playing big parts - We have a shot in 2017.

It all depends on how we do this post season.

Not really. If we do well this offseason we are then forced into to looking to keep Deng who will command more than 10+ as a PF. Wade will have every reason to command a salary starting at over 15+ mil a year and Whiteside will do what his best for him. Money will run out quickly and eat up into 2017 when we would realistically have a shot at Durant.

And if we get bounced in the first round? Then what happens?

You don't commit all your money on a 49 win team unless you truly believe that they could make the leap to title contenders.

You say Whiteside will do what's best for him I see it as we'll do what's best for us.

Pat Riley doesn't build treadmill teams. We lost LeBron and look at how far we've come in 2 years. The Nuggets lost Melo 5 years ago and they're still one of the worst teams in the league.

[Flash4thewin]

It all depends on how we do this post season.

Not really. If we do well this offseason we are then forced into to looking to keep Deng who will command more than 10+ as a PF. Wade will have every reason to command a salary starting at over 15+ mil a year and Whiteside will do what his best for him. Money will run out quickly and eat up into 2017 when we would realistically have a shot at Durant.

And if we get bounced in the first round? Then what happens?

You don't commit all your money on a 49 win team unless you truly believe that they could make the leap to title contenders.

You say Whiteside will do what's best for him I see it as we'll do what's best for us.

Pat Riley doesn't build treadmill teams. We lost LeBron and look at how far we've come in 2 years. The Nuggets lost Melo 5 years ago and they're still one of the worst teams in the league.

We are a business not a family. If we do bad most of this team is on deals that end this season so problem solved. I do think we do everything we can to keep Wade no matter how we do in the playoffs.

The main reason we are doing good is because of Whiteside which honestly we literally lucked into. Just for fun imagine this team without Whiteside this season. We would have a center rotation of Amare, UD and McRoberts with Bosh out. Yeah we would not be looking at making the playoffs at all. One player can make a world of difference to a franchise.

[QUIZ]

Not really. If we do well this offseason we are then forced into to looking to keep Deng who will command more than 10+ as a PF. Wade will have every reason to command a salary starting at over 15+ mil a year and Whiteside will do what his best for him. Money will run out quickly and eat up into 2017 when we would realistically have a shot at Durant.

And if we get bounced in the first round? Then what happens?

You don't commit all your money on a 49 win team unless you truly believe that they could make the leap to title contenders.

You say Whiteside will do what's best for him I see it as we'll do what's best for us.

Pat Riley doesn't build treadmill teams. We lost LeBron and look at how far we've come in 2 years. The Nuggets lost Melo 5 years ago and they're still one of the worst teams in the league.

We are a business not a family. If we do bad most of this team is on deals that end this season so problem solved. I do think we do everything we can to keep Wade no matter how we do in the playoffs.

The main reason we are doing good is because of Whiteside which honestly we literally lucked into. Just for fun imagine this team without Whiteside this season. We would have a center rotation of Amare, UD and McRoberts with Bosh out. Yeah we would not be looking at making the playoffs at all. One player can make a world of difference to a franchise.

And you're clearly upset at the way he's been treated. Nothing we can do about that now! Playoffs start in just a few weeks, it should be very exciting.

[Burnie Riley]

For anyone who missed Battier on Lebatard yesterday:
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=15083205

They start talking about Whiteside around 15 minutes in. He told a story about Whiteside trying out the year they went with Jorts instead and how he was unimpressed and now says "pay the man."

[BIRDMAN BIRDMAN]

Dampier, Eddy Curry, Varnado, Pittman, Jorts, Gladness, Whiteside.

We've come a long way fam

[-MK-]

Stats & Pod: Hassan Brightside

Hassan Whiteside stole the show on Monday night with his career-high 27 points against the Nets. Nobody had Whiteside turning into a 19-point, 13-board, three-block guy this season after what looked like a peak in 2014-15. Well, that’s what he’s turned into these days. Since the break, Whiteside averaged 18.5 points, 13.4 boards, 3.3 blocks, 0.7 steals and 1.8 turnovers on 61.5 percent from the field and 79.0 percent from the line.

Compared to his pre-break numbers this season, his usage rate jumped up 2.7 points to 22.2, his true shooting percentage increased 4.3 to 66.2 and even his rebounding rate increased 1.9 after the break. Yes, so more volume, more efficiency, better on the glass and he’s even played 2.5 more minutes per game, too. He’s been crazy good.

The bump in efficiency is really due to one thing: free throw shooting. Shockingly, Whiteside has made 79.0 percent from the line since the break, which is up from 55.2 percent pre-break. He’s also taking 1.6 more attempts per game, too. His field goal percentage is actually down 0.2, as well. Here’s a look at his shot chart before the break (top) and after the break (bottom):





He’s not getting as many shots at the rim and he’s worse from there, too. Obviously the big bumps here are his terrific job on non-restricted paint shots and the big volume uptick on mid-range shots. On the non-restricted paint shots since the break, he’s an incredible 18.9 percent above league average while he’s even above league average on mid-range.

Taking it a step further, the types of shots he’s making is interesting. Here are his shot types since the break:



Wow, the 50.0 percent on jumpers is really impressive, especially after hitting just 36.5 percent pre-break. The sample size is pretty decent, too.

The other explanation is the Chris Bosh (blood clot) is out, so that’s really allowed Whiteside to flourish with more work in the offense. He’s emerged as the top big man in standard leagues since the break and in DFS, too. Just as Nets coach Tony Brown said on Monday night, it must be nice to be his agent right now. He’s going to get paid.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/stats-pod-hassan-brightside-193200103--nba.html

[dolphinatik]

note to Hassan, lay off the fadeaways