Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[gom]

I don't see why people can't be happy with the team's success and celebrate every players success like the team does. Herro had a great game, celebrate it. Duncan has a bad game, keep the confidence that he will bounce back. If the FO managed this team like some of the posters in here?

Nothing makes me happier then when I see Jimmy, Bam, even Morris and VO who have not really gone through the wars with these guy like others have, cheer and be genuinely happy at other's success.

That's not really our role. We are interested in the construction of the team (and for some of us, teams in general, the cba, etc). We are not casual fans, at least that's the goal. I traded Butler for picks, Wiseman, and Poole, so what do I know?

I think we are in the half-dozen top teams. We are not as good as the best of them though. Whether we need a trade or not is a moot point. We need a trade to improve this season, but it would have to be a winning trade, and that's not as easy when you don't have a lot of bad salary ballast (always makes the trade better to jettison bad salary and get good players.) Not so easy when you're lean though.

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[al bondiga]

I have to say it... never liked Morris and boy you haven't proven me wrong, like I wish you would have

[DayofMourning]

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Need to trade Morris and KZ to PHX for Jalen Smith.

[KingDavid]

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Yes! I'm really intrigued by this kid.

Someone give me a break down.

[KingDavid]

I have to say it... never liked Morris and boy you haven't proven me wrong, like I wish you would have

I mean at this point I think he has a fractured neck. That was a monster of a man that gave him whiplash like a car accident. I know the levels of damage that can cause, especially when it's unexpected.

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Yes! I'm really intrigued by this kid.

Someone give me a break down.

Do not think Guy will stick with the team. I do think the Heat are intrigue and using this time to get a look at him to then invite him to the summer league. Smart Kid, needs to work on his body.

[heatwillbeback]

Hopefully Dedmon returns soon. Silva is very limited. Does play hard so can’t fault him too much.

[DayofMourning]

Hopefully Dedmon returns soon. Silva is very limited. Does play hard so can’t fault him too much.

Dedmon replacing Silva will be a big deal. Silva is G League only.

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Yes! I'm really intrigued by this kid.

Someone give me a break down.

He's been on the Kings, so maybe gom will have some info. However, he's been on the Kings so the evidence is very subjective.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I want some of Herros usage to go to Bam, Herro shouldn’t have the highest usage. I want Bam to score more and be more aggressive to score, Spo needs to drill this in his head when he comes back.

It’s easy to go away from Bam because we have so many gifted perimeter players and the league is more perimeter oriented now but Bam almost always has a mismatch on offense.

People have been saying that about Bam for about 4 years now, he doesn't have it in him. I accepted that this year. Nowhere did I say Herro was a better player currently, but potential offensively it's not close.

Bams averaged damn near 20 the last 2 seasons on higher efficiency than Herro is this year. Hell average 24-26 eventually.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Aggressiveness to get this own shot and just embarrass whoever is guarding him is literally the only thing holding Bam but from at least being equal to Jimmy and a top 10 player in the league. It’s coming, his peak is going to be unreal

[3ammy3uck3ts]

People are throwing out a lot of numbers to discredit Herro saying things like we are worse with him starting this and that. Herro's role has been dramatically increased for the first time this season. He's learning and will continue to get better, more efficient and learn to make more winning plays.

I really don't get looking at the Herro starting vs non starting numbers. Rotations have been way too inconsistent to put much weight in on/off, starter/non starter numbers.

Herro's games starting:
2 w/o Butler
4 w/o without Bam
4 w/o both

I don't think Herro's untouchable or anything but it would really need to be the right deal that puts us over the top, as I do think he's a very valuable young player. To me the only difference between 21yo Booker and 21yo Herro is Booker's ability to get to the FT line Booker 6FTAs to Herro's 3FTAs accounting for his 3 extra PPG that year, outside of that there isn't much separating their games at the same points in their careers. If Herro was on that PHX team back then he would be starting and likely doing the same things.

The main point I was making was he’s shooting 38% as a starter and the team is worse with him on the floor in general not just when he starts. I’m hoping as he continues to develop that changes, I’m sure it will

[3ammy3uck3ts]

At this point does it even matter with Morris? He shouldn’t play over a lot of these guys and doesn’t have a spot in the rotation unless I’m just forgetting something about how good he was playing. Might see him get Avery Bradley’d at the deadline

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Also KZ already declared out for Wednesday. Another mystery injury for the Heat with no clarity given. At this point I’m assuming broken wrist or more likely torn ligaments in his wrist

[twix2500]

This is so funny to me. PJ might have 100 fga from each corner and not double digits fga anywhere else around the 3 pt line by the end of the year. Lol

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[Hallstar]

I want some of Herros usage to go to Bam, Herro shouldn’t have the highest usage. I want Bam to score more and be more aggressive to score, Spo needs to drill this in his head when he comes back.

It’s easy to go away from Bam because we have so many gifted perimeter players and the league is more perimeter oriented now but Bam almost always has a mismatch on offense.

People have been saying that about Bam for about 4 years now, he doesn't have it in him. I accepted that this year. Nowhere did I say Herro was a better player currently, but potential offensively it's not close.

Bams averaged damn near 20 the last 2 seasons on higher efficiency than Herro is this year. Hell average 24-26 eventually.

Look this is my last post on this because it's gonna start looking like I'm hating on Bam. Herro in less than half a season has more 30 point games that Bam in his career. He's not even 22 yet. Yet he has the limited offensive ceiling and Bam's gonna somehow get to 25 ppg. We literally have a potential Devin Booker clone in Herro.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

People have been saying that about Bam for about 4 years now, he doesn't have it in him. I accepted that this year. Nowhere did I say Herro was a better player currently, but potential offensively it's not close.

Bams averaged damn near 20 the last 2 seasons on higher efficiency than Herro is this year. Hell average 24-26 eventually.

Look this is my last post on this because it's gonna start looking like I'm hating on Bam. Herro in less than half a season has more 30 point games that Bam in his career. He's not even 22 yet. Yet he has the limited offensive ceiling and Bam's gonna somehow get to 25 ppg. We literally have a potential Devin Booker clone in Herro.

A clone of another player Bam is better than?

Devin Booker <<<< Bam

Devin Booker clone <<<< KG clone

I hope Herro scores 50 Wednesday

[3ballbomber]

I don't see why people can't be happy with the team's success and celebrate every players success like the team does. Herro had a great game, celebrate it. Duncan has a bad game, keep the confidence that he will bounce back. If the FO managed this team like some of the posters in here?

Nothing makes me happier then when I see Jimmy, Bam, even Morris and VO who have not really gone through the wars with these guy like others have, cheer and be genuinely happy at other's success.

That's not really our role. We are interested in the construction of the team (and for some of us, teams in general, the cba, etc). We are not casual fans, at least that's the goal. I traded Butler for picks, Wiseman, and Poole, so what do I know?

I think we are in the half-dozen top teams. We are not as good as the best of them though. Whether we need a trade or not is a moot point. We need a trade to improve this season, but it would have to be a winning trade, and that's not as easy when you don't have a lot of bad salary ballast (always makes the trade better to jettison bad salary and get good players.) Not so easy when you're lean though.

There's no rules to being fans. And fully heathy we're one of the best teams in the league - Hell we just beat Suns minus Butler & Bam. I'm normally amused by trade talks in here - it's been unnecessarily too much lately. We're 3rd in the East & achieving that as a depleted squad. What more do you want? Just 2 seasons ago we were offensively inept & experience constant scoring droughts. We've finally addressed that, not by luck but through FA, scouting, development by coaching staff & good coaching by Spo. This is a process & we've mended the holes that caused our past struggles. There's a lot of work that went into that. I for one am pleased w/ our progression, I appreciate it & feel blessed to be in the position we currently are.