Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

[3ammy3uck3ts]

99% of every transactional idea discussed isn’t happening so being reticent on what the vision of team should be would apply across the board if that was indeed the standard.

Yes, but most of those imaginary transactions involve players who are likely to move or or possibly available. You think Celtics fans are debating about Tatum trades? We can talk about Jimmy trades, but Bam not happening as time soon

Example doesn’t work because Bam is no way Tatem’s equivalent.

Every GM would build a team around Tatem. The same is not true of Bam.

In a post Jimmy era, unless someone else develops or the team acquires a star, Bam would get recasted from a #2ish/ #3 to the role of “the man.”

I’d like to explore the idea of which reality is better: Bam as the 1A franchise player or trading him for a trove of picks

I’ll never forget you wanted to replace him with Claxton and I think you were saying Yurt made Bam expendable and wanted to trade him after Yurt had a good stretch

[Beenie]

Yes, but most of those imaginary transactions involve players who are likely to move or or possibly available. You think Celtics fans are debating about Tatum trades? We can talk about Jimmy trades, but Bam not happening as time soon

Example doesn’t work because Bam is no way Tatem’s equivalent.

Every GM would build a team around Tatem. The same is not true of Bam.

In a post Jimmy era, unless someone else develops or the team acquires a star, Bam would get recasted from a #2ish/ #3 to the role of “the man.”

I’d like to explore the idea of which reality is better: Bam as the 1A franchise player or trading him for a trove of picks

I’ll never forget you wanted to replace him with Claxton and I think you were saying Yurt made Bam expendable and wanted to trade him after Yurt had a good stretch

For Dame or Durant and that was 2 years ago

I’ll stand by that all day

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Example doesn’t work because Bam is no way Tatem’s equivalent.

Every GM would build a team around Tatem. The same is not true of Bam.

In a post Jimmy era, unless someone else develops or the team acquires a star, Bam would get recasted from a #2ish/ #3 to the role of “the man.”

I’d like to explore the idea of which reality is better: Bam as the 1A franchise player or trading him for a trove of picks

I’ll never forget you wanted to replace him with Claxton and I think you were saying Yurt made Bam expendable and wanted to trade him after Yurt had a good stretch

For Dame or Durant and that was 2 years ago

I’ll stand by that all day

Those would be been UGLY but yea I remember the Claxton specifically and I believe Yurt. Good times

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[SerialChiller]

We should be trying to work out a S&T for Tyus. He would be a huge upgrade at the backup PG spot and is a better long term fit over Rozier. We can deal Rozier next year when he’s an expiring contract. Tyus and Butler are also friends. Our bigs would flourish with Tyus at the point.

100% agree.

The only hiccup would be the possibility of Herro having to go to WAS and play with Poole or Kuzma

Maybe a Duncan move? But that still wouldn't solve the Herro issue

Maybe Pat could sell Washington on Herro by telling them how fantastic him and Poole would be together as co-tank commanders

[SerialChiller]

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We need to be all over this, I was hoping we could trade for him last year before the Rozier trade as well.

[IceColdCubano]

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We need to be all over this, I was hoping we could trade for him last year before the Rozier trade as well.

How? for Who?

[AirP.]

Anyone else been getting carpet bombed with Highsmith pics and posts on twitter like Miami just signed a new max player.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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We need to be all over this, I was hoping we could trade for him last year before the Rozier trade as well.

How? for Who?

I suggested Duncan, J Rich, and 2nd to the Wiz for taking in money and doing the S&T. It’s 22.4 million to work with but 9.6 million is needed to get from under the apron. Then need a few bucks extra to sign a 14th and 15th player. Also hard capped at the 178 apron so it leaves about a max of 10-11 million starting salary for Tyus.

[SerialChiller]

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We need to be all over this, I was hoping we could trade for him last year before the Rozier trade as well.

How? for Who?

Sign and trade, might even take a 3rd team but we need to get another PG and he's actually good enough to move the needle a bit imo. Since we won't trade Butler Pat needs to find a way to do something to improve the roster at least. This is like our last opportunity now.

[DayofMourning]

We need to be all over this, I was hoping we could trade for him last year before the Rozier trade as well.

How? for Who?

Sign and trade, might even take a 3rd team but we need to get another PG and he's actually good enough to move the needle a bit imo. Since we won't trade Butler Pat needs to find a way to do something to improve the roster at least. This is like our last opportunity now.

Hed be better off acquiring another draft pick or 3. I love ALL our guys but I want chips.

Prime Butler and were good. We dont have that though.

[SerialChiller]

How? for Who?

Sign and trade, might even take a 3rd team but we need to get another PG and he's actually good enough to move the needle a bit imo. Since we won't trade Butler Pat needs to find a way to do something to improve the roster at least. This is like our last opportunity now.

Hed be better off acquiring another draft pick or 3. I love ALL our guys but I want chips.

Prime Butler and were good. We dont have that though.

Yeah moving Butler was the way to go, we aren't winning it with this build.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If we do a S&T with the Wiz we have 12.7 worth of wiggle room to give Tyus 10 million and sign Swider to 2.1 QO. The rest would be to convert a 2 way player after the deadline on a prorate deal. That’s as creative as i can get.

[Beenie]

I’ll never forget you wanted to replace him with Claxton and I think you were saying Yurt made Bam expendable and wanted to trade him after Yurt had a good stretch

For Dame or Durant and that was 2 years ago

I’ll stand by that all day

Those would be been UGLY but yea I remember the Claxton specifically and I believe Yurt. Good times

It’s getting ugly now and it’s gonna get a whole lot uglier when Jimmy’s gone unless one of their young guys pop or they strike oil and land a star.

[DayofMourning]

Sign and trade, might even take a 3rd team but we need to get another PG and he's actually good enough to move the needle a bit imo. Since we won't trade Butler Pat needs to find a way to do something to improve the roster at least. This is like our last opportunity now.

Hed be better off acquiring another draft pick or 3. I love ALL our guys but I want chips.

Prime Butler and were good. We dont have that though.

Yeah moving Butler was the way to go, we aren't winning it with this build.

Our FO is addicted to the feels.

Just forsake the straddling of the fence build and get Flagg or Harper. Then its done.

[SerialChiller]

Hed be better off acquiring another draft pick or 3. I love ALL our guys but I want chips.

Prime Butler and were good. We dont have that though.

Yeah moving Butler was the way to go, we aren't winning it with this build.

Our FO is addicted to the feels.

Just forsake the straddling of the fence build and get Flagg or Harper. Then its done.

Yep...except when it came to Wade weirdly.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Yeah moving Butler was the way to go, we aren't winning it with this build.

Our FO is addicted to the feels.

Just forsake the straddling of the fence build and get Flagg or Harper. Then its done.

Yep...except when it came to Wade weirdly.

Not true lol, the feels towards Wade in 2016 were negative do to Riley feeling betrayed over the Lebron departure.

[DayofMourning]

Our FO is addicted to the feels.

Just forsake the straddling of the fence build and get Flagg or Harper. Then its done.

Yep...except when it came to Wade weirdly.

Not true lol, the feels towards Wade in 2016 were negative do to Riley feeling betrayed over the Lebron departure.

Riley is set in his ways.

Heat life!

What would be better is to jump at a golden opportunity when Butler still has value.

Wades grip on this franchise runs deep. Somehow, along the way, we forgot how we raised the banners.

We need another Wade. And it aint Lauri **** Markkannnnnen.

[MettaWorldPanda]

S&T’s right now are going to be hard to come by due to the restrictions of being hard capped at the first apron. I still think our best bet is to get Detroit or Utah to eat Duncan’s salary so we can use the 5.2 on one of these PG’s still available. Someone is going to come at the Oubre discount this year. We’ll also have plenty of money let over for another vet minimum.

[carnageta]

If we're playing piss poor by the deadline and out of the playoff race, I wonder if the FO would then be willing to deal Butler? Teams often get desperate at the trade deadline and there may be a contender or two that believes they're a 'Jimmy Butler' away from a championship. Could get ourselves a really nice set of assets.

Wonder if the FO would even consider that though.. probably not lol.