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Post#1741 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:50 pm

Meanwhile, even though the Heat has displayed strong interest in trading for Washington guard Bradley Beal, Wizards vice president/basketball operations Tommy Sheppard told The Athletic that Washington has given no thought to trading Beal.


“Not at all,” Sheppard said. “It’s never crossed our mind. Bradley is somebody we’re building around. He’s been involved with everything we’re doing in the draft, free agency. We need his opinion. We want this team to be a reflection of what he is all about.”


According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.


“When John was healthy, he was one of the top players in the NBA hands down,” Sheppard said. “He’ll be healthy again.”




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: all hype all meat beat hype :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads. Wiz about to make Beal a very rich man when they are allowed to extend him at the end of the month. 3 year 127 I think to be exact.
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Post#1742 » by Rapaz » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:53 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads.

Much less to a division rival.
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Post#1743 » by Rafly » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:53 pm

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Jinsaryko wrote:https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article232568002.html

" Miami will listen and do due diligence on the matter but the Heat do not have a very strong interest and is not aggressively pursuing a trade for Paul at this time. Miami would need to be absolutely overwhelmed to consider taking on the final three years of CP3 contract"

"For Miami to consider this, OKC would need not only to take back only unappealing contracts but would need to offer other significant concessions. One could be the Thunder returning Miami’s 2021 and 2023 first-round picks."

So yea' its like what most of us think, picks or **** off.


So hes going to Detroit, Lob city part 2.

Blake Griffin hates CP3
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Post#1744 » by Shewasfly » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:53 pm

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Shewasfly wrote:I think OKC will hold on to Chris Paul until december when more of the Lakers players become eligible for trade. maybe we can facilitate a deal to get him to the Lakers like I'm sure he and LeBum wants.
In the meantime I dont really think there are any feasible moves to make us better.


The Lakers signed players with 2 year deal to be a player in 2021. Lebron would veto a Paul trade and only take Paul if he is bought out. Remember Lebron didnt trade for Melo either.

LeBron isnt competing for **** in 2021. He has this season and next so he's not worried about no '21-22 season
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Post#1745 » by twix2500 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:55 pm

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Post#1746 » by CWebb2491 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:56 pm

Jinsaryko wrote:https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article232568002.html

" Miami will listen and do due diligence on the matter but the Heat do not have a very strong interest and is not aggressively pursuing a trade for Paul at this time. Miami would need to be absolutely overwhelmed to consider taking on the final three years of CP3 contract"

"For Miami to consider this, OKC would need not only to take back only unappealing contracts but would need to offer other significant concessions. One could be the Thunder returning Miami’s 2021 and 2023 first-round picks."

So yea' its like what most of us think, picks or **** off.


It took us a first to unload Harkless on a 1 year deal and he was owed 10 mil...... and you want us to ask for 2 picks? Nah it's 3 picks now and an agreement between Paul and Pat to change the player option to team option
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Post#1747 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:57 pm

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BFRESH44 wrote:I see no pathway for the Thunder to get out from under that Paul deal unless they include two first round picks. I'm looking down the line, and there isn't a single team that doesn't already have a long term plan at point guard or significant resources already in the position.

You gon' have to pay up, now Presti. Or eat that deal.

When the owner signed on to the Paul deal they knew full well they were going to end up keeping Paul. They got two first round picks for there troubles and are about to get under the tax line. They will surround that contract with a bunch of cheap talented labor in the near future.


yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul
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Post#1748 » by twix2500 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:58 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Meanwhile, even though the Heat has displayed strong interest in trading for Washington guard Bradley Beal, Wizards vice president/basketball operations Tommy Sheppard told The Athletic that Washington has given no thought to trading Beal.


“Not at all,” Sheppard said. “It’s never crossed our mind. Bradley is somebody we’re building around. He’s been involved with everything we’re doing in the draft, free agency. We need his opinion. We want this team to be a reflection of what he is all about.”


According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.


“When John was healthy, he was one of the top players in the NBA hands down,” Sheppard said. “He’ll be healthy again.”




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: all hype all meat beat hype :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads. Wiz about to make Beal a very rich man when they are allowed to extend him at the end of the month. 3 year 127 I think to be exact.


You think that statement means the Heat never negotiated with Wizards CMon Metta :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#1749 » by walk with me » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:58 pm

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walk with me wrote:
Beenie wrote:
Off topic, who u rolling with Pacquiao or Thurman?

And you wouldn’t be a tad bit interested in seeing Mia’s rendition of lob city?


I edge Thurman but really have no idea tbh. I don’t really have a pick for this one cause both outcomes make for good fights

Thurman wins = Thurman vs Spence
Pac-Man wins = Mikey vs Pac-Man

Cp too old and injury ridden. It’ll only get worst year after year and his contract is so big. I’d rather roll our dice on younger players and “the future”. The next 3-5 years is set between Milwaukee, philly, clippers, lakers. We won’t be able to crack into that tier in the next 3-5


I’m cool with both of those...


Few years ago I would have gone Thurman over Pac which is kinda weird considering the passing of time typically would help the younger fighter and hurt the elder. Ironically, it's Thurman who seems to be the more shopworn of the two. The diminishment from Injuries and attrition were apparent against Lopez in his last outing.

Thurman just doesn’t have that dog in him anymore. If he can show that vs pac he should be good
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Post#1750 » by oreon » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:59 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Meanwhile, even though the Heat has displayed strong interest in trading for Washington guard Bradley Beal, Wizards vice president/basketball operations Tommy Sheppard told The Athletic that Washington has given no thought to trading Beal.


“Not at all,” Sheppard said. “It’s never crossed our mind. Bradley is somebody we’re building around. He’s been involved with everything we’re doing in the draft, free agency. We need his opinion. We want this team to be a reflection of what he is all about.”


According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.


“When John was healthy, he was one of the top players in the NBA hands down,” Sheppard said. “He’ll be healthy again.”




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: all hype all meat beat hype :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads. Wiz about to make Beal a very rich man when they are allowed to extend him at the end of the month. 3 year 127 I think to be exact.


It's too early, he has 2 years left. Beal even if he wanted out has no leverage to force his way. I think if he doesn't make all-nba to be eligible for the supermax extension, he might be available in the summer
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Post#1751 » by CWebb2491 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:01 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
BFRESH44 wrote:I see no pathway for the Thunder to get out from under that Paul deal unless they include two first round picks. I'm looking down the line, and there isn't a single team that doesn't already have a long term plan at point guard or significant resources already in the position.

You gon' have to pay up, now Presti. Or eat that deal.

When the owner signed on to the Paul deal they knew full well they were going to end up keeping Paul. They got two first round picks for there troubles and are about to get under the tax line. They will surround that contract with a bunch of cheap talented labor in the near future.


yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul


Enjoy going back to Seattle :violin: :violin: :pityfool:
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Post#1752 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:06 pm

We have a need for a bruiser defensive style PF. Is Maten that guy? Is he worth keeping on the roster for now instead of signing UD? Just for the potential upside alone I would say yes. Since we only have enough for 14 guys i don't see us signing UD. This may finally be the end for him here.
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Post#1753 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:08 pm

oreon wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Meanwhile, even though the Heat has displayed strong interest in trading for Washington guard Bradley Beal, Wizards vice president/basketball operations Tommy Sheppard told The Athletic that Washington has given no thought to trading Beal.


“Not at all,” Sheppard said. “It’s never crossed our mind. Bradley is somebody we’re building around. He’s been involved with everything we’re doing in the draft, free agency. We need his opinion. We want this team to be a reflection of what he is all about.”


According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.


“When John was healthy, he was one of the top players in the NBA hands down,” Sheppard said. “He’ll be healthy again.”




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: all hype all meat beat hype :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads. Wiz about to make Beal a very rich man when they are allowed to extend him at the end of the month. 3 year 127 I think to be exact.


It's too early, he has 2 years left. Beal even if he wanted out has no leverage to force his way. I think if he doesn't make all-nba to be eligible for the supermax extension, he might be available in the summer


Didnt Kawhi basically force his way out with two seasons left? He spent one year getting "Healthy" then got traded to the Raptors.

The problem is Beal seems happy in DC and is the undisputed Alpha of the team. Its his team. Maybe this changes later?
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Post#1754 » by heatwillbeback » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:09 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:We have a need for a bruiser defensive style PF. Is Maten that guy? Is he worth keeping on the roster for now instead of signing UD? Just for the potential upside alone I would say yes. Since we only have enough for 14 guys i don't see us signing UD. This may finally be the end for him here.


The money is the issue. Maten has been underwhelming but his min being a lot less helps us against the hard cap. We can’t afford Haslem’s huge minimum right now.

A trade may change the math.
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Post#1755 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:17 pm

CWebb2491 wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:When the owner signed on to the Paul deal they knew full well they were going to end up keeping Paul. They got two first round picks for there troubles and are about to get under the tax line. They will surround that contract with a bunch of cheap talented labor in the near future.


yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul


Enjoy going back to Seattle :violin: :violin: :pityfool:


why being a jerk? I really hope OKC and Miami can make a deal but no way Presi will give up 2 first round picks (maybe one) because we won't have cap space issues while rebuilding.
Oh and I understand Miami fans that don't want CP3 at all. I never said that you guys should trade for him. I wouldn't...

We have 15 first round picks over the next 7 years and SGA is legit. It will take a while for us to rebuild but we will be fine.
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Post#1756 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:18 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We have a need for a bruiser defensive style PF. Is Maten that guy? Is he worth keeping on the roster for now instead of signing UD? Just for the potential upside alone I would say yes. Since we only have enough for 14 guys i don't see us signing UD. This may finally be the end for him here.


The money is the issue. Maten has been underwhelming but his min being a lot less helps us against the hard cap. We can’t afford Haslem’s huge minimum right now.

A trade may change the math.


Wait UD Is coming back?
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Post#1757 » by heatwillbeback » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:20 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We have a need for a bruiser defensive style PF. Is Maten that guy? Is he worth keeping on the roster for now instead of signing UD? Just for the potential upside alone I would say yes. Since we only have enough for 14 guys i don't see us signing UD. This may finally be the end for him here.


The money is the issue. Maten has been underwhelming but his min being a lot less helps us against the hard cap. We can’t afford Haslem’s huge minimum right now.

A trade may change the math.


Wait UD Is coming back?


If we get the money to do so, I wouldn’t be surprised, that’s for sure. It would take saving approximately 2 million just to get the cash under the hard cap.

And this isn’t saying he can play anymore- he can’t. But the Heat still want him around.
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Post#1758 » by Biscayne Beast » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:23 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
CWebb2491 wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul


Enjoy going back to Seattle :violin: :violin: :pityfool:


why being a jerk? I really hope OKC and Miami can make a deal but no way Presi will give up 2 first round picks (maybe one) because we won't have cap space issues while rebuilding.
Oh and I understand Miami fans that don't want CP3 at all. I never said that you guys should trade for him. I wouldn't...

We have 15 first round picks over the next 7 years and SGA is legit. It will take a while for us to rebuild but we will be fine.


Off Topic: Do you think the fact that you're now a rebuilding team is going to affect attendance rates in OKC?
You've been pretty blessed having a playoff team for 10 years now.
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Post#1759 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:26 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We have a need for a bruiser defensive style PF. Is Maten that guy? Is he worth keeping on the roster for now instead of signing UD? Just for the potential upside alone I would say yes. Since we only have enough for 14 guys i don't see us signing UD. This may finally be the end for him here.


The money is the issue. Maten has been underwhelming but his min being a lot less helps us against the hard cap. We can’t afford Haslem’s huge minimum right now.

A trade may change the math.
a trade for whom,maten or UD ?
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Post#1760 » by heatwillbeback » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:30 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We have a need for a bruiser defensive style PF. Is Maten that guy? Is he worth keeping on the roster for now instead of signing UD? Just for the potential upside alone I would say yes. Since we only have enough for 14 guys i don't see us signing UD. This may finally be the end for him here.


The money is the issue. Maten has been underwhelming but his min being a lot less helps us against the hard cap. We can’t afford Haslem’s huge minimum right now.

A trade may change the math.
a trade for whom,maten or UD ?


Oh no. I mean a trade with another team where we save a couple million. Let’s say trade dragic (at 19 million) and take back 17 million for next year.

We are literally up against a hard cap right now.

If we free up some hard cap money, Haslem may be signed eventually. There he is a reason he hasn’t retired.

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