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MettaWorldPanda wrote:If UD comes back i don’t think we have the luxury of having two dead roster spots waiting on Dipo to get healthy. UD gone then sure.
AirP. wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Looks like no Dipo. Oh well didn’t cost us much other then a pick swap and a free agent to be KO.
I want him resigned still but after all the other moves are already made, I didn't expect him to be back till halfway through the season. Miami could just go into the tax to keep him at the beginning of the season and then make a/some trade(s) to get out of the tax before the trade deadline.
If you really believed that he'd be back at the beginning of the season I'm sorry, with his history that more then likely wasn't going to happen.
If I were Miami, I'd probably be playing it like they may be doing, just ignoring him for the most part to get him to take less, a lot less with team options on a contract to stay in Miami.
twix2500 wrote:AirP. wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Looks like no Dipo. Oh well didn’t cost us much other then a pick swap and a free agent to be KO.
I want him resigned still but after all the other moves are already made, I didn't expect him to be back till halfway through the season. Miami could just go into the tax to keep him at the beginning of the season and then make a/some trade(s) to get out of the tax before the trade deadline.
If you really believed that he'd be back at the beginning of the season I'm sorry, with his history that more then likely wasn't going to happen.
If I were Miami, I'd probably be playing it like they may be doing, just ignoring him for the most part to get him to take less, a lot less with team options on a contract to stay in Miami.
I am quite sure Heat want to resign Dipo. They are about to gut their gaurd position on what ever trade they can complete in the next month. I really want the Sexton deal. I think it will be very intriguing/halarious/good seeing Butler and Sexton side by side.
twix2500 wrote:I am quite sure Heat want to resign Dipo. They are about to gut their gaurd position on what ever trade they can complete in the next month. I really want the Sexton deal. I think it will be very intriguing/halarious/good seeing Butler and Sexton side by side.
AirP. wrote:twix2500 wrote:I am quite sure Heat want to resign Dipo. They are about to gut their gaurd position on what ever trade they can complete in the next month. I really want the Sexton deal. I think it will be very intriguing/halarious/good seeing Butler and Sexton side by side.
Butler and Young Bull next to each other would be a great pairing, not only their skill but their toughness on the court.
twix2500 wrote:NBADraft2003 wrote:twix2500 wrote:Spacing is how defenders defend you. Hint how the defense space out to defend you. Its not your percentage. The Pelicans need a spacer so Zion can carry the team as a scorer.
Pelicans have Kira Lewis who they are very high on and has more potential than Ball. Pelicans were exploring trading Lonzo because they want to give the reign to Lewis.
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Doesn’t make sense, Twix. If you’re being guarded behind the three point line while Zion is operating in the paint, you’re providing that space and the percentages with the volume only shows further evidence of that. I believe he was their best three point shooter too. If they need the spacing and they do, then it’s maybe not a good idea to keep Bledsoe and extend Adams.
If they truly wanted to hand the reigns over to Kira, Lonzo would’ve been gone already at the deadline. There were deals out there and they decided against it.
Teams did not stick to Lonzo at the three point line. They were still cheating off of him through the season, and when he took the open shots he proved he can knock them down. However teams are were still willing to cheat off of him because they ultimately do not think his shooting can carry an offense. The whole goal is to stop Zion. It was proven right by the Pelicans continue to lose. Duncan is a totally different weapon. Teams fear his shooting, they will chase him at the three point line, even when his doesnt have the ball. That is true spacing. I really shouldnt have to explain Robinson importance as a role player.
At the end of the day Lonzo and Robinson are role players. Rather you prefer either roles, it doesnt matter. It only matter how they fit the team. The Pelican's have Lewis, they do like him. Lonzo is nothing but a trade pawn to them. Its been rumored that Pelicans will go hard after Robinson. If they truly want him that bad, I can see them easily trading Ball for Robinson and move Lewis to the starting point. I agree that they have more than one issue with spacing, but adding Robinson fills a huge amount of that void. And depending on how good Lewis becomes that void can be filled even more.
I know some here like Lonzo style of play, and a few still think he has high potential to be a star. I do not think the majority of the league feels that way. I think teams like him, but not as he was a rookie prospect but as quality role player.
I am just going by what I seeing and how the Pelicans are acting. I am not trying to rip Lonzo, like I said he has finally developed into a quality player.
How you see the defender defend Lonzo is called bad spacing. Granted he is knocking down the open shots very well, but teams are collapsing on Zion off of him. I know you will say that is just one game. It is not just one game, I looked at 5 games in the last few months of the season. Teams were still willing to give Zo open looks.
What you see in Robinson snips is called Spacing. See how defender will not cheat off of him and defend him at the 3 point line at all times. That is called spacing, not your three point percentage. Your percentage can lead to spacing, but the defender has to actually do so.
twix2500 wrote:DayofMourning wrote:Better sign Yurtasiete to a 5 year deal right now before he wants a 4 year 80 million contract.
LOL, I think some of you all will build at team full of Max players and 2-way contracts or rookies. Nothing in between lol
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AirP. wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:If UD comes back i don’t think we have the luxury of having two dead roster spots waiting on Dipo to get healthy. UD gone then sure.
Nah... his upside is way too good to not waste a spot for Oladipo but have a way out of his contract if it doesn't look good halfway through the season.
Oladipo getting healthy and becoming a very good player is a way better chance of happening then finding some 13th/14th roster spot that will make any difference at all on a Spoelstra team.
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Collin Sexton is 6'1 with a 6'6 wingspan...his defense on guards is legit or what?
NBADraft2003 wrote:AirP. wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:If UD comes back i don’t think we have the luxury of having two dead roster spots waiting on Dipo to get healthy. UD gone then sure.
Nah... his upside is way too good to not waste a spot for Oladipo but have a way out of his contract if it doesn't look good halfway through the season.
Oladipo getting healthy and becoming a very good player is a way better chance of happening then finding some 13th/14th roster spot that will make any difference at all on a Spoelstra team.
Victor is 29, going to be 30 next year with multiple serious leg injuries. How much upside do you think he has? He is who he is.
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Collin Sexton is 6'1 with a 6'6 wingspan...his defense on guards is legit or what?
AirP. wrote:SoFlaKingReal wrote:Collin Sexton is 6'1 with a 6'6 wingspan...his defense on guards is legit or what?
His hustle is legit and if he's willing to put in the effort he has the ability to be a solid/good defender, Miami and Butler can teach him to be a more effective defender.
NBADraft2003 wrote:AirP. wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:If UD comes back i don’t think we have the luxury of having two dead roster spots waiting on Dipo to get healthy. UD gone then sure.
Nah... his upside is way too good to not waste a spot for Oladipo but have a way out of his contract if it doesn't look good halfway through the season.
Oladipo getting healthy and becoming a very good player is a way better chance of happening then finding some 13th/14th roster spot that will make any difference at all on a Spoelstra team.
Victor is 29, going to be 30 next year with multiple serious leg injuries. How much upside do you think he has? He is who he is.
twix2500 wrote:NBADraft2003 wrote:AirP. wrote:Nah... his upside is way too good to not waste a spot for Oladipo but have a way out of his contract if it doesn't look good halfway through the season.
Oladipo getting healthy and becoming a very good player is a way better chance of happening then finding some 13th/14th roster spot that will make any difference at all on a Spoelstra team.
Victor is 29, going to be 30 next year with multiple serious leg injuries. How much upside do you think he has? He is who he is.
I think he can be better than what he was in the three games he played with the Heat. Which is a good quality player to keep on the roster. You guys and the 30 number. He just turned 29 a month ago. It will be playoff time that he will turn the horrid and satanic 30.
AirP. wrote:NBADraft2003 wrote:AirP. wrote:Nah... his upside is way too good to not waste a spot for Oladipo but have a way out of his contract if it doesn't look good halfway through the season.
Oladipo getting healthy and becoming a very good player is a way better chance of happening then finding some 13th/14th roster spot that will make any difference at all on a Spoelstra team.
Victor is 29, going to be 30 next year with multiple serious leg injuries. How much upside do you think he has? He is who he is.
He could be past his injuries now and yes, I watched him in Houston to see how he was moving and I saw him having the athletic ability to still be a high level player but he did look rusty(with him taking it easy because of the rehab, I'd expect he didn't work out like he normally does off court) , look at the last play he had with Miami, that's not a play you see from normal guys his size. If he's healthy, gets into the gym to get the rust off, he could be a very good player for Miami, if it doesn't get back Miami can cut him loose, it's not going to cost Miami anything but money to retain him. If he does come back well you then may have options to make more moves to strengthen the team with him on board. The thing that's nice about Oladipo, he's a better defensive player then he is offensive, that needs to be taken in consideration also with how good he can be overall.
