**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

Post #1741 » by **DayofMourning** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:06 pm

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-four-paths-for-juan-nunez

Post #1742 » by **DayofMourning** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:07 pm

Take a big in round one and Nunez in round 2?

greg4012 · Post #1743 » by **greg4012** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:08 pm

Would love for Portland to get enamored with Tyler Smith and take him with pick 14.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1744 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:17 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
1) Topic

2) Holland/Da Silva/Carter

3) Dillingham/Carrington

4) Collier/Edey

Didn't even work him out, despite the expectation he'll be available at #15..

I don't think we are interested.

Actually didn't work out Carrington either...

Means there are only 7 players in the running for #15 Assuming we didn't miss any secret workouts :

Topic - expected to go in lottery but might fall
Dillingham - expected to go in lottery but might fall

Holland - worked out
Ware - worked out
Collier - worked out
Edey - worked out
Carter - worked out

99% that one of these guys is the pick.

Post #1745 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:20 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Didn't even work him out, despite the expectation he'll be available at #15..

I don't think we are interested.

Actually didn't work out Carrington either...

Means there are only 7 players in the running for #15 Assuming we didn't miss any secret workouts :

Topic - expected to go in lottery but might fall
Dillingham - expected to go in lottery but might fall

Holland - worked out
Ware - worked out
Collier - worked out
Edey - worked out
Carter - worked out

99% that one of these guys is the pick.

I’d say your 99% is pretty spot on

Post #1746 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:22 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Take a big in round one and Nunez in round 2?

We’ve worked out a good amount of Heat type 2nd round picks that i don’t see us being in on Nunez.

greg4012 · Post #1747 » by **greg4012** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:22 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Didn't even work him out, despite the expectation he'll be available at #15..

I don't think we are interested.

Actually didn't work out Carrington either...

Means there are only 7 players in the running for #15 Assuming we didn't miss any secret workouts :

Topic - expected to go in lottery but might fall
Dillingham - expected to go in lottery but might fall

Holland - worked out
Ware - worked out
Collier - worked out
Edey - worked out
Carter - worked out

99% that one of these guys is the pick.

Did Miami workout Dillingham?

Post #1748 » by **DayofMourning** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:24 pm

Alright Rex, you convinced me. We need 4 first rounders. Im willing to bet on Ware, Edey, Carter and Collier. Now, we just need to get those extra picks.

Post #1749 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:27 pm

greg4012 wrote:Would love for Portland to get enamored with Tyler Smith and take him with pick 14.

They have a need for someone of his skillset . Also played for the Ignite like Scoot. They must like him. They could go guard or wing with first pick. They worked out Dalton Knecht privately and now Tyler Smith twice.

Post #1750 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:30 pm

greg4012 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don't think we are interested.

Actually didn't work out Carrington either...

Means there are only 7 players in the running for #15 Assuming we didn't miss any secret workouts :

Topic - expected to go in lottery but might fall
Dillingham - expected to go in lottery but might fall

Holland - worked out
Ware - worked out
Collier - worked out
Edey - worked out
Carter - worked out

99% that one of these guys is the pick.

Did Miami workout Dillingham?

Nope. I don’t think they invited Rich Paul and Dillingham to FTX just yet lol

twix2500 · Post #1751 » by **twix2500** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:39 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Tyler Smith also came in for a workout. He was also invited a 2nd time by the Blazers to workout so potentially locking himself into a top 15 pick with good workouts.

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I think Tyler Smith is an ex-factor. He is still very raw, so I think how he looks in private workouts will make a difference for him. Physical talent and tools wise, he fits the Heat system. He is 6'10 not 6'11. Measured 6'9.0 without shoes with a 7'1 winspan in comparison to Bam who is 6'8.75 without shoes with a 7'2 winspan and to compare him to Bobby Portis who is 9.5 without shoes and a 7'2 winspan. His defense is the question mark he will have to answer in private workouts. Can he be a highlevel defender in a switch base defense. That is the thing these 6'10 and smaller centers need be switching defensive talent. None of them are good enough to play drop defense. There is no Alonzo Morning or Ben Wallace in this draft.

lastb1ckman · Post #1752 » by **lastb1ckman** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:42 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Didn't even work him out, despite the expectation he'll be available at #15..

I don't think we are interested.

Actually didn't work out Carrington either...

Means there are only 7 players in the running for #15 Assuming we didn't miss any secret workouts :

Topic - expected to go in lottery but might fall
Dillingham - expected to go in lottery but might fall

Holland - worked out
Ware - worked out
Collier - worked out
Edey - worked out
Carter - worked out

99% that one of these guys is the pick.

I wouldn't even say Topic or Dillingham if we don't work them out. I mean, they're working out Holland, why not them to if they're interested? They are falling too

greg4012 · Post #1753 » by **greg4012** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:50 pm

There's also the ex-factor of who the hell knows if Miami has worked out some others

RexBoyWonder · Post #1754 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:51 pm

greg4012 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don't think we are interested.

Actually didn't work out Carrington either...

Means there are only 7 players in the running for #15 Assuming we didn't miss any secret workouts :

Topic - expected to go in lottery but might fall
Dillingham - expected to go in lottery but might fall

Holland - worked out
Ware - worked out
Collier - worked out
Edey - worked out
Carter - worked out

99% that one of these guys is the pick.

Did Miami workout Dillingham?

Nope. My assumption is the both Topic and Dillingham (and any other expected top 10 player) won't work out for a team picking at #15, it would look like admitting they're not a lottery talent, and they believe they'll get picked way before out pick.

Both guys are at risk of falling, Topic due to injury concerns and Dillingham due to bad measurements.

There's a chance Someone else might fall, but hard to single out anyone besides those 2.

I'm just hoping one of top 2-3 guys our front office really likes somehow finds his way to us. We'll never really know otherwise because they'll never admit that who they really liked was picked at #12 and #14 and we settled for #15 despite not being that high on him.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1755 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:53 pm

greg4012 wrote:There's also the ex-factor of who the hell knows if Miami has worked out some others

I think that in this day and age with social media it's almost impossible to workout an outsider and keep it totally under the radar..too many curious cats around and it's extremely easy to leak info

Post #1756 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:54 pm

Read on Twitter

lastb1ckman · Post #1757 » by **lastb1ckman** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:55 pm

twix2500 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Tyler Smith also came in for a workout. He was also invited a 2nd time by the Blazers to workout so potentially locking himself into a top 15 pick with good workouts.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

I think Tyler Smith is an ex-factor. He is still very raw, so I think how he looks in private workouts will make a difference for him. Physical talent and tools wise, he fits the Heat system. He is 6'10 not 6'11. Measured 6'9.0 without shoes with a 7'1 winspan in comparison to Bam who is 6'8.75 without shoes with a 7'2 winspan and to compare him to Bobby Portis who is 9.5 without shoes and a 7'2 winspan. His defense is the question mark he will have to answer in private workouts. Can he be a highlevel defender in a switch base defense. That is the thing these 6'10 and smaller centers need be switching defensive talent. None of them are good enough to play drop defense. There is no Alonzo Morning or Ben Wallace in this draft.

What's the vision for the developed Tyler Smith? A switchy 3&D 4 that can dunk it? His shot is nice out the gate, but he doesn't have much in the way of dribbling or passing. He has the tools to be a switchy defender, but doesn't have any of the mentals yet. Is ceiling higher than Jovic's?

RexBoyWonder · Post #1758 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:57 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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I think after the Winslow fiasco there's Zero chance we pick a guy we didn't work out despite having an opportunity to work him out (meaning he's expected to be at available our range & he's healthy leading up to draft).

greg4012 · Post #1759 » by **greg4012** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:57 pm

twix2500 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Tyler Smith also came in for a workout. He was also invited a 2nd time by the Blazers to workout so potentially locking himself into a top 15 pick with good workouts.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

I think Tyler Smith is an ex-factor. He is still very raw, so I think how he looks in private workouts will make a difference for him. Physical talent and tools wise, he fits the Heat system. He is 6'10 not 6'11. Measured 6'9.0 without shoes with a 7'1 winspan in comparison to Bam who is 6'8.75 without shoes with a 7'2 winspan and to compare him to Bobby Portis who is 9.5 without shoes and a 7'2 winspan. His defense is the question mark he will have to answer in private workouts. Can he be a highlevel defender in a switch base defense. That is the thing these 6'10 and smaller centers need be switching defensive talent. None of them are good enough to play drop defense. There is no Alonzo Morning or Ben Wallace in this draft.

I agree. Tyler Smith is all potential with very unclear substance at the moment. He's got length and a good looking shot. But, he doesn't seem to do any of the big man things on the floor. He blocks some shots, but otherwise, I don't know that he's a people mover, big man defender or a rim runner. I don't think he's enough of a shotblocker to specialize in lineups as a weakside rim protector. So, it becomes very important for him to have some switchability. TBH I have no clue if he does.

If he looks super fleet-footed in workouts, I could see teams buying into his upside.

I haven't seen too much of a handle for him to get where he wants to go on the court and make something happen if his first look isn't there.

At least he had a decent number of dunks (28 in 27 games)--showing some inside scoring potential.

greg4012 · Post #1760 » by **greg4012** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:00 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
greg4012 wrote:There's also the ex-factor of who the hell knows if Miami has worked out some others

I think that in this day and age with social media it's almost impossible to workout an outsider and keep it totally under the radar..too many curious cats around and it's extremely easy to leak info

Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places. So who has Daron Holmes worked out with?