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MettaWorldPanda wrote:S&T’s right now are going to be hard to come by due to the restrictions of being hard capped at the first apron. I still think our best bet is to get Detroit or Utah to eat Duncan’s salary so we can use the 5.2 on one of these PG’s still available. Someone is going to come at the Oubre discount this year. We’ll also have plenty of money let over for another vet minimum.
DayofMourning wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:S&T’s right now are going to be hard to come by due to the restrictions of being hard capped at the first apron. I still think our best bet is to get Detroit or Utah to eat Duncan’s salary so we can use the 5.2 on one of these PG’s still available. Someone is going to come at the Oubre discount this year. We’ll also have plenty of money let over for another vet minimum.
Detroit runs on Duncan.
Cost is Jaden Ivey.
Beenie wrote:ZoStrong wrote:Beenie wrote:
99% of every transactional idea discussed isn’t happening so being reticent on what the vision of team should be would apply across the board if that was indeed the standard.
Yes, but most of those imaginary transactions involve players who are likely to move or or possibly available. You think Celtics fans are debating about Tatum trades? We can talk about Jimmy trades, but Bam not happening as time soon
Example doesn’t work because Bam is no way Tatem’s equivalent.
Every GM would build a team around Tatem. The same is not true of Bam.
In a post Jimmy era, unless someone else develops or the team acquires a star, Bam would get recasted from a #2ish/ #3 to the role of “the man.”
I’d like to explore the idea of which reality is better: Bam as the 1A franchise player or trading him for a trove of picks
carnageta wrote:If we're playing piss poor by the deadline and out of the playoff race, I wonder if the FO would then be willing to deal Butler? Teams often get desperate at the trade deadline and there may be a contender or two that believes they're a 'Jimmy Butler' away from a championship. Could get ourselves a really nice set of assets.
Wonder if the FO would even consider that though.. probably not lol.
ZoStrong wrote:Beenie wrote:ZoStrong wrote:
Yes, but most of those imaginary transactions involve players who are likely to move or or possibly available. You think Celtics fans are debating about Tatum trades? We can talk about Jimmy trades, but Bam not happening as time soon
Example doesn’t work because Bam is no way Tatem’s equivalent.
Every GM would build a team around Tatem. The same is not true of Bam.
In a post Jimmy era, unless someone else develops or the team acquires a star, Bam would get recasted from a #2ish/ #3 to the role of “the man.”
I’d like to explore the idea of which reality is better: Bam as the 1A franchise player or trading him for a trove of picks
Maybe them winning the most recent championship has inflated your viewbof Tatum. Tbh, if I'm starting my own team, idk who I'd pick first if those two are the top players available to me. Bam is the cornerstone of our franchise (for now). It doesn't mean he's 1a. Just a cornerstone to build around. I feel Tatum's talants are easier to replace than Bam's. Not saying who's better. Just from a building a roster standpoint
ZoStrong wrote:Vertical Limit wrote:Heat3 wrote:Jimmy could have a career year and I still wouldn't extend him. He'll be 36 after the upcoming season. Trade him before the deadline.
No way in hell should we extend that contract.. that would be all time dumb. Trade him to a contender.. i bet we can get two firsts and some contracts that expire by 2026 ..
If the season isn't going as we hoped for. By the mid season, i expect we do trade him to a contender. I'm kinda intrigued about the season cuz it could very well be the end of Jimmy era
Flash4thewin wrote:
Does this officially kill the Duncan to Pistons dream? How much cap space do they have now?
Flash4thewin wrote:
Does this officially kill the Duncan to Pistons dream? How much cap space do they have now?
HeatIn5 wrote:Brogdon is interesting in a Washington deal.... he shot 41% from 3 last year in Portland and 44% in Boston.
HeatIn5 wrote:Brogdon is interesting in a Washington deal.... he shot 41% from 3 last year in Portland and 44% in Boston.
HeatIn5 wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:ah yes
run it back. because this team was so close to winning a championship last season, that a healthy terry rozier and jimmy would have meant banner #4
Best best case scenario time if you want to be a negative Nelly -
-Healthy Terry and Jimmy
-Bam enters his prime post-Team USA and becomes a top 10 player
-Come to Jesus meeting with Herro and he locks in and has a 23-25 ppg year
-Jaime and Jovic both take another step forward. Jaime looked at as 6MOY candidate and formidable starter in games Jimmy misses
- Duncan, in a contract year (essentially), continues his play from last year
-Larsson and Keshad are older rookies and play serviceable end of bench roles
-Burks buys into culture as bench spark
-Ware has a couple big games
At the end of the day I’d take Bam over any player on the Knicks
SerialChiller wrote:DayofMourning wrote:SerialChiller wrote:
Sign and trade, might even take a 3rd team but we need to get another PG and he's actually good enough to move the needle a bit imo. Since we won't trade Butler Pat needs to find a way to do something to improve the roster at least. This is like our last opportunity now.
Hed be better off acquiring another draft pick or 3. I love ALL our guys but I want chips.
Prime Butler and were good. We dont have that though.
Yeah moving Butler was the way to go, we aren't winning it with this build.
