MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[AirP.]

If his doctor did what he was supposed to the first time, I wouldn’t be this skeptical. But for a guy who relies on his athleticism, not really a good outside shooter, and has been with major injuries the last two years, it’s expected. I like him, pray he gets healthy and is able to contribute to the team if he’s kept. I don’t think he gets back to all-star level though, hope I’m wrong but previous evidence points to a different direction.

I'm not expecting Oladipo being an all-star, I'm expecting(at some point next year) a 2 way player who can score around 20 a night to go along Butler, Bam and hopefully someone else really good that they acquire in the offseason. I believe Oladipo can make the defense much better while also making the offense better. Miami should have 3 and possible more very good switchable defenders on the team, I'm hoping Miami gets away from having any weak links defensively from the starting lineup or at least, having an ending group of all 2 way players.

[NBADraft2003]

If his doctor did what he was supposed to the first time, I wouldn’t be this skeptical. But for a guy who relies on his athleticism, not really a good outside shooter, and has been with major injuries the last two years, it’s expected. I like him, pray he gets healthy and is able to contribute to the team if he’s kept. I don’t think he gets back to all-star level though, hope I’m wrong but previous evidence points to a different direction.

I'm not expecting Oladipo being an all-star, I'm expecting(at some point next year) a 2 way player who can score around 20 a night to go along Butler, Bam and hopefully someone else really good that they acquire in the offseason. I believe Oladipo can make the defense much better while also making the offense better. Miami should have 3 and possible more very good switchable defenders on the team, I'm hoping Miami gets away from having any weak links defensively from the starting lineup or at least, having an ending group of all 2 way players.

Honestly wouldn’t be mad keeping him just for defense alone but I’m not expecting 20 a night from him on crappy efficiency on the most volume of shots he’s ever had in his career. He’s not doing that on this team, especially if someone else better than him shows up.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Riley did say he would get a couple of players from this draft. 5 reasons seasons tho. Hopefully this dart throw is finally on point.

[DayofMourning]

Dipo isn't scoring 20 a night for us. That was never an option. He'd have to be a first option to do that.

[DayofMourning]

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Riley did say he would get a couple of players from this draft. 5 reasons seasons tho. Hopefully this dart throw is finally on point.

It's like I'm reading the exact same things we've been tossing around for weeks now. Lol.

Riley needs to get into the first round again.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Collin Sexton is 6'1 with a 6'6 wingspan...his defense on guards is legit or what?

His hustle is legit and if he's willing to put in the effort he has the ability to be a solid/good defender, Miami and Butler can teach him to be a more effective defender.

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Getting Sexton I still think you need to get a point guard. Sexton is a scoring guard like Iverson. Get Lonzo Ball to be his Eric Snow.

Spencer Dinwiddie might be a more realistic option.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Riley did say he would get a couple of players from this draft. 5 reasons seasons tho. Hopefully this dart throw is finally on point.

It's like I'm reading the exact same things we've been tossing around for weeks now. Lol.

Riley needs to get into the first round again.

It's true. They definitely have a mole scouting out the forums Watchout without a doubt is making bank on Twitter now. I'm actually a bit jealous as I'm still waiting on my RealGm MOD check to come in the mail that Iggie promised

[DayofMourning]

Would look at Tre Mann for a guard spot. Boy can shoot. With Jimmy and Bam handling the ball so much, traditional points aren't a necessity.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Would look at Tre Mann for a guard spot. Boy can shoot. With Jimmy and Bam handling the ball so much, traditional points aren't a necessity.

I wouldn't mind a traditional point off the bench but you are correct. Butler is the primary ball handler. Sexton has room to grow as a PG. Derrick Rose would be pretty cool to have off the bench to groom him.

[DayofMourning]

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Riley did say he would get a couple of players from this draft. 5 reasons seasons tho. Hopefully this dart throw is finally on point.

It's like I'm reading the exact same things we've been tossing around for weeks now. Lol.

Riley needs to get into the first round again.

It's true. They definitely have a mole scouting out the forums Watchout without a doubt is making bank on Twitter now. I'm actually a bit jealous as I'm still waiting on my RealGm MOD check to come in the mail that Iggie promised

They certainly scour these forums for ideas. I mean, I get it. These forums are a great hub for information, real or manufactured.

Iggie keeps asking me about the board pension plan. He's really counting on the revenue....

[DayofMourning]

Would look at Tre Mann for a guard spot. Boy can shoot. With Jimmy and Bam handling the ball so much, traditional points aren't a necessity.

I wouldn't mind a traditional point off the bench but you are correct. Butler is the primary ball handler. Sexton has room to grow as a PG. Derrick Rose would be pretty cool to have off the bench to groom him.

Rose would be super solid to have off the bench. My goodness.

Refresh my memory. Let's say we trade for KP and Sexton as our big moves (for better or worse). What do we have to sign someone like Rose? The MLE? What else?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Would look at Tre Mann for a guard spot. Boy can shoot. With Jimmy and Bam handling the ball so much, traditional points aren't a necessity.

I wouldn't mind a traditional point off the bench but you are correct. Butler is the primary ball handler. Sexton has room to grow as a PG. Derrick Rose would be pretty cool to have off the bench to groom him.

Rose would be super solid to have off the bench. My goodness.

Refresh my memory. Let's say we trade for KP and Sexton as our big moves (for better or worse). What do we have to sign someone like Rose? The MLE? What else?

If we trade for a big man to play with Bam then we could have some fun and sign BPA with the MLE. Rose is on the top of my list. We would also have the 2.7 Bi annual exception. This is all assuming we operate as a capped out team and not a room team. it's actually increased to 3.6

The bi-annual exception is one of the tools available to NBA teams who are over the cap, giving those clubs the flexibility to offer free agents more than the minimum salary. In 2020/21, the bi-annual exception is worth $3,623,000, and can be used to offer a deal worth up to about $7,427,150 over two years

[DayofMourning]

I wouldn't mind a traditional point off the bench but you are correct. Butler is the primary ball handler. Sexton has room to grow as a PG. Derrick Rose would be pretty cool to have off the bench to groom him.

Rose would be super solid to have off the bench. My goodness.

Refresh my memory. Let's say we trade for KP and Sexton as our big moves (for better or worse). What do we have to sign someone like Rose? The MLE? What else?

If we trade for a big man to play with Bam then we could have some fun and sign BPA with the MLE. Rose is on the top of my list. We would also have the 2.7 Bi annual exception. This is all assuming we operate as a capped out team and not a room team. it's actually increased to 3.6

The bi-annual exception is one of the tools available to NBA teams who are over the cap, giving those clubs the flexibility to offer free agents more than the minimum salary. In 2020/21, the bi-annual exception is worth $3,623,000, and can be used to offer a deal worth up to about $7,427,150 over two years

Good stuff, Panda. Thanks.

I'm daydreaming now on how to get Allen and Sexton in a deal. There was some thought that Mobley falling to Cleveland makes Allen expendable. I don't see it that way as they operate in different spaces on the floor, but who knows.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Rose would be super solid to have off the bench. My goodness.

Refresh my memory. Let's say we trade for KP and Sexton as our big moves (for better or worse). What do we have to sign someone like Rose? The MLE? What else?

If we trade for a big man to play with Bam then we could have some fun and sign BPA with the MLE. Rose is on the top of my list. We would also have the 2.7 Bi annual exception. This is all assuming we operate as a capped out team and not a room team. it's actually increased to 3.6

The bi-annual exception is one of the tools available to NBA teams who are over the cap, giving those clubs the flexibility to offer free agents more than the minimum salary. In 2020/21, the bi-annual exception is worth $3,623,000, and can be used to offer a deal worth up to about $7,427,150 over two years

Good stuff, Panda. Thanks.

I'm daydreaming now on how to get Allen and Sexton in a deal. There was some thought that Mobley falling to Cleveland makes Allen expendable. I don't see it that way as they operate in different spaces on the floor, but who knows.

Cavs seem fully committed to Allen. No way i see Mobley getting passed 2. He’s getting picked at 2 either by the Rockets or someone giving the Rockets an offer they can’t refuse. Our big stretch options via trade are Porzingis and Love. For the MLE looking at Theis or Portis. Would prefer to use the MLE on someone like Rose.

[DayofMourning]

If we trade for a big man to play with Bam then we could have some fun and sign BPA with the MLE. Rose is on the top of my list. We would also have the 2.7 Bi annual exception. This is all assuming we operate as a capped out team and not a room team. it's actually increased to 3.6

The bi-annual exception is one of the tools available to NBA teams who are over the cap, giving those clubs the flexibility to offer free agents more than the minimum salary. In 2020/21, the bi-annual exception is worth $3,623,000, and can be used to offer a deal worth up to about $7,427,150 over two years

Good stuff, Panda. Thanks.

I'm daydreaming now on how to get Allen and Sexton in a deal. There was some thought that Mobley falling to Cleveland makes Allen expendable. I don't see it that way as they operate in different spaces on the floor, but who knows.

Cavs seem fully committed to Allen. No way i see Mobley getting passed 2. He’s getting picked at 2 either by the Rockets or someone giving the Rockets an offer they can’t refuse. Our big stretch options via trade are Porzingis and Love. For the MLE looking at Theis or Portis. Would prefer to use the MLE on someone like Rose.

I could see Jalen going number 2. It wouldn't surprise me. The top 3 in this draft are fairly even in my eyes.

I really want Bam to continue to operate from the high post and be viewed less as a center. I want a lunch pail type worker on the boards next to him to help him max his skillset. Allen is that for me. Quetta would fill that req as well though and cost a lot less.

[AirP.]

They certainly scour these forums for ideas. I mean, I get it. These forums are a great hub for information, real or manufactured.

Iggie keeps asking me about the board pension plan. He's really counting on the revenue....

Think of it this way... even if you had a or a few sources you're not talking about everything a source would know or have heard, the source(s) may talk to you about they want to talk about or possibly talk to you about specific things you ask them. If I were in the sports talk business I would ask specific questions that a fan base were talking about to have info that the fanbase wanted some info on.

[AirP.]

Dipo isn't scoring 20 a night for us. That was never an option. He'd have to be a first option to do that.

If Oladipo were put in Nunn's role I bet he would. Better consistency in scoring and much better defense.

[heater4life]

I like a deal similar to what Twix posted:

Heat get:
Sexton-Love

Cavs get:

Herro- Iggy- Dragic

It’ll be hard for Cleveland to unload Love and I think this is one of the few instances it makes sense for. Oth sides. Cleveland gets gets flexibility and although overpaid, Love is a good fit next to Bam.

Herro for Sexton could make sense for both teams. Miami would need to sweeten the pot a bit.

[DayofMourning]

Dipo isn't scoring 20 a night for us. That was never an option. He'd have to be a first option to do that.

If Oladipo were put in Nunn's role I bet he would. Better consistency in scoring and much better defense.

You think if Oladipo shot the ball 12 times a game like Nunn did he would score 20 points? Dipo shot the ball 18 times a game last year and didn't get to 20 points. Seems a bit off, AirP.

[DayofMourning]

I like a deal similar to what Twix posted:

Heat get:
Sexton-Allen

Cavs get:

Herro- Iggy- Dragic-Precious-KZ

Herro for Sexton could make sense for both teams. Miami would need to sweeten the pot a bit.

I changed it up a little bit.