2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[insfo]

Please trade Bam now!!!

At the deadline trade Herro.

Start stockpiling picks and assets

[SoFlaKingReal]

Of course. I've been a fan of my hometown teams my whole life. I'm never going anywhere. For all the good and the bad (a lot of bad).

True, but we also have our fair share of good times! Seven professional championships for South Florida teams since 1997.

It's still wild that the Marlins have won 2 WS. I just miss having good football teams. The Heat can have down seasons. Just give me a direction though.

Ya, how ironic is it that South Florida....a youth football hotbed....can't produce a successful **** college or pro team in over 20 years.

Yet, somehow HOCKEY is thriving here.

[Lilseb93]

Also lol @ lumping the Heat in with the Dolphins/Marlins, some of you must be really young to be making that comparison. The Dolphins and Marlins have been terrible for 2+ decades now, the Heat have been to the Finals twice since 2020. Perspective, please.

You didn't hear? Those Finals runs were fluke anomalies that the front office had nothing to do with.

Not flukes, but a couple of runs don't negate a lot of bad management decisions here since LeBron left. It's still a good organization overall in the grand scheme of things, but we have higher expectations than bad organizations in the NBA. Even in those runs, we were all asking for improvement and to give Jimmy more help. We all wanted them to improve the 4 spot.

All I ask is to pick a direction.

[iamoti]

Castle + 2nd pick (Dylan Harper) + 1 or 2 more future 1sts for Bam

Then Tyler for a PF and we are set

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[Vertical Limit]

If the Heat decided tonight that its time to blow it up completely i am completely on board so long as they get the correct compensation in return..


Once upon a time OKC decided to team up Paul George and Russell Westbrook together, Westbrook having had consecutive triple double seasons and a MVP they thought this sidekick PG would put them over the top.


It only took one season for presti to realize, this isnt what he had envisioned.


He traded Westbrook to Houston for CP3 and FOUR first round picks.
He traded Paul George to Clippers for SGA, Gallinari, and FIVE first round picks and two pick swaps.

Theyre in the NBA finals now and will likely be favored to go in the nba finals again next year.


Chasing whales with an empty cupboard does not work anymore.


If youre going to keep Bam, fine. But its time to move on from Herro because Herro is not going to be a core player on a championship team, ever. Sell high right now on Herro.

[MorbidHEAT]

So....what Heat jersey is Durant going to wear?

[miamiballer]

I’m down to to trade both herro and bam for picks and expiring and rebuild with picks and 2026 draft picks, just wish we didn’t trade a first for rozier lol

This trade doesn’t hurt nearly as much as dame. The dame one we were coming off a finals appearance and I truly felt he was the missing piece but in retrospect it’s best we didn’t get him as it wouldn’t have changed anything but costs us multiple assets

Ban is the only championship complimentary piece on our team but his timeline doesn’t fit. We need to get as many picks as we can and just do a proper rebuild

[SoFlaKingReal]

Castle + 2nd pick (Dylan Harper) + 1 or 2 more future 1sts for Bam

Then Tyler for a PF and we are set

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San Antonio would never do that lmao
Who do you guys think Bam is? He's very good, but thats a super star package you put forth.

[DayofMourning]

Houston just traded the 2nd pick in the draft and the 10th pick in the draft for a 46 year old KD.

Should be able to get that from the Spurs for a prime Bam.

[DayofMourning]

So....what Heat jersey is Durant going to wear?

Wont wear our jersey but we will retire it;)

[Lilseb93]

I haven't been a fan of the decisions the front office has made. I'm not angry or irrational. I'm just saying I don't like what they are doing. I don't know how to word it negatively without people assuming it's emotional. The Heat are one of the best franchises in the NBA over the last 25 years, but that doesn't mean we just blindly agree with everything they do. There have been a lot of bad decisions made in the front office. We can't live off reputation either. I'll hope for the best.

[Vertical Limit]

Castle + 2nd pick (Dylan Harper) + 1 or 2 more future 1sts for Bam

Then Tyler for a PF and we are set

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San Antonio would never do that lmao
Who do you guys think Bam is? He's very good, but thats a super star package you put forth.

Hes worth 4 unprotected firsts, maybe 5.

[SA37]

Also lol @ lumping the Heat in with the Dolphins/Marlins, some of you must be really young to be making that comparison. The Dolphins and Marlins have been terrible for 2+ decades now, the Heat have been to the Finals twice since 2020. Perspective, please.

I'm 32. I wasn't saying the Heat org is as bad as the Dolphins and Marlins. I'm saying it's likely going to be a rough season next year, along with those teams. Just like last year.

I agree but sometimes you gotta take your medicine to improve.

The best thing that ever happened to this franchise, or 2nd depending on how much you value Riley’s arrival, was drafting that kid out of Marquette in 2003. That doesn’t happen if we didn’t have a couple years in the dumps.

Not saying we should tank, but maybe it’s time to let the chips fall where they may instead of always trading 2 dollars tomorrow for a dollar today.

And the Heat was in the "dumps" not because Miami decided to blow it up and go after assets, but because Alonzo Mourning had a kidney disease. At that time, a poster on here called BBallFreak and I went back and forth endlessly discussing what Miami should do. I wanted Miami to dump Brian Grant and Eddie Jones for expirings and any draft capital it could muster. Even in the face of having two overpaid guys on max deals and the center of Miami's plans getting a kidney transplant, Riley never moved them for expiring contracts and draft assets.

Miami traded Eddie Jones for Antoine Walker and James Posey and Brian Grant was part of the package that went to LA for Shaq.

The larger point here is Riley would rather hang on to vets and try to make the playoffs than trade them for expirings and draft assets. This has been the case since he has been the head of basketball operations in Miami.

[SoFlaKingReal]

I haven't been a fan of the decisions the front office has made. I'm not angry or irrational. I'm just saying I don't like what they are doing. I don't know how to word it negatively without people assuming it's emotional. The Heat are one of the best franchises in the NBA over the last 25 years, but that doesn't mean we just blindly agree with everything they do. There have been a lot of bad decisions made in the front office. We can't live off reputation either. I'll hope for the best.

Very well said...I honestly don't know what 80 year old Riley is hanging around for at this point. There are so many bad vibes around the team right now, ownership and the front office can't be COMPLETELY unaware of this.

We need a complete re-set for all involved.

[SA37]

So....what Heat jersey is Durant going to wear?

Wont wear our jersey but we will retire it;)

[Lilseb93]

Also lol @ lumping the Heat in with the Dolphins/Marlins, some of you must be really young to be making that comparison. The Dolphins and Marlins have been terrible for 2+ decades now, the Heat have been to the Finals twice since 2020. Perspective, please.

I'm 32. I wasn't saying the Heat org is as bad as the Dolphins and Marlins. I'm saying it's likely going to be a rough season next year, along with those teams. Just like last year.

I agree but sometimes you gotta take your medicine to improve.

The best thing that ever happened to this franchise, or 2nd depending on how much you value Riley’s arrival, was drafting that kid out of Marquette in 2003. That doesn’t happen if we didn’t have a couple years in the dumps.

Not saying we should tank, but maybe it’s time to let the chips fall where they may instead of always trading 2 dollars tomorrow for a dollar today.

Well, I've been a supporter of blowing it up. It's not even about Durant. I don't think a 37-year-old Durant is leading us to a title. So I'm not upset at all about that. I just want a direction. I'm fine with bad seasons if I know it's leading to something. Right now, I'm not sure what the plan is. They are treading water. I don't like they think they can compete and win trades while be crippled by debt and negative assets. I just ask them to be more proactive. It's like all of their decisions are fixing a previous mistake.

[lastb1ckman]

It gives us assets, which we need, for 2 years of service. What are we going to do in the meantime? Is the NBA going to magically gift us a Luka type player to boost us into contention?

It handicaps us from doing anything with those assets for 2 years.

Good thing they’re likely 2030 and later then. I mean what’s the alternative? Suck for the next 2 years and just do it with less assets than we could have by adding Beal? What is this front office getting done with our current assets this summer or the next to complete for a championship?

You're not getting more than a pick from the Suns, so even if you traded away Herro and Bam for two haul, you'd be wasting 2 years no real reason.
If any stars becomes available in those two years, now you have to deal with Beals fat ass contract when building around them. Or try to convince Beal is some star to pair with the star coming to the Heat. It makes more sense to trade away Herro and Bam alone.

[Lilseb93]

I haven't been a fan of the decisions the front office has made. I'm not angry or irrational. I'm just saying I don't like what they are doing. I don't know how to word it negatively without people assuming it's emotional. The Heat are one of the best franchises in the NBA over the last 25 years, but that doesn't mean we just blindly agree with everything they do. There have been a lot of bad decisions made in the front office. We can't live off reputation either. I'll hope for the best.

Very well said...I honestly don't know what 80 year old Riley is hanging around for at this point. There are so many bad vibes around the team right now, ownership and the front office can't be COMPLETELY unaware of this.

We need a complete re-set for all involved.

It's the result of winning. Everyone expects the Dolphins and Marlins to be bad and make terrible decisions. The Heat have higher expectations. People always expect them to be a quality organization that carries sports down here. When they don't live up to their reputation, it makes people even more upset. It's the same with Lakers or Celtics fans. I mean, it's toxic, yes, but it brings success. We could all just be like the Timberwolves or Hornets and celebrate making a run one time 10 years ago, but we're the Lakers of the East essentially. We win with stars, and people expect success. It's just how our fanbase is for the good and the bad.

[SoFlaKingReal]

I haven't been a fan of the decisions the front office has made. I'm not angry or irrational. I'm just saying I don't like what they are doing. I don't know how to word it negatively without people assuming it's emotional. The Heat are one of the best franchises in the NBA over the last 25 years, but that doesn't mean we just blindly agree with everything they do. There have been a lot of bad decisions made in the front office. We can't live off reputation either. I'll hope for the best.

Very well said...I honestly don't know what 80 year old Riley is hanging around for at this point. There are so many bad vibes around the team right now, ownership and the front office can't be COMPLETELY unaware of this.

We need a complete re-set for all involved.

It's the result of winning. Everyone expects the Dolphins and Marlins to be bad and make terrible decisions. The Heat have higher expectations. People always expect them to be a quality organization that carries sports down here. When they don't live up to their reputation, it makes people even more upset. It's the same with Lakers or Celtics fans. I mean, it's toxic, yes, but it brings success. We could all just be like the Timberwolves or Hornets and celebrate making a run one time 10 years ago, but we're the Lakers of the East essentially. We win with stars, and people expect success. It's just how our fanbase is for the good and the bad.

Ya, but the disrespect I see towards Riley is nuts. I think he should retire because he's old and has lost his fastball, but you wont see me crossing that the line into the idiocy that it seems a lot of our fan base partake in.

I know twitter is a cesspool, but damn lol

[Lilseb93]

Keep Bradley Beal far away from this team. I want nothing to do with him or his contract.