2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

[CrossOver]

I was playing around on fanspo, attempting to do a 3 way deal with GSW and LAL.

Sent out Wiggins and attempted to sign and trade for Kuminga on a 2 year deal.

It failed, stating Kuminga's deal would have to be 3 or 4 years in length.

Any sign and trade deal must be at least 3 years in length.

[DayofMourning]

I was playing around on fanspo, attempting to do a 3 way deal with GSW and LAL.

Sent out Wiggins and attempted to sign and trade for Kuminga on a 2 year deal.

It failed, stating Kuminga's deal would have to be 3 or 4 years in length.

Any sign and trade deal must be at least 3 years in length.

What type of yearly amount do you think Kuminga would warrant?

Seems like an anti cap space deal to make for Miami. Anti-plan.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Miami severely overpaid for Robinson.

Sam Merrill just got 4-years, $38M. If Miami is thinking of restructuring Robinson's deal, that is probably the range we'd see for a deal. Not sure if Miami wants to commit money beyond 2 years, but given Robinson could lose out on $10M, Miami could have him decline his option and offer him 2-years, $20M. Duncan gets his $10M more in guaranteed money and Miami has him for ~half the cap hit.

I’m guessing this is what they do cause trading him to pay repeater makes no sense either

Is today the deadline for Duncan's decision? i mean he could be just trying to control his destiny cause if he opts in he dont know where he will live next season vs taking a team friendly deal. a 3 year deal with the last being a team option i believe works best for both and i believe he will benefit more from playing with this roster. DHOs and screens from bam,jovic, and ware

They have until July 8th once he opts in but not sure about renegotiation

[eddieheatfan]

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12M/year for Mitchell is an overpay. At least it is only 2 years.

You took the words right out of my mouth. He's worth roughly what he was making last season.

this why i no longer take the heat seriously paying up scrubs massive amount of money because?

i mean we were just 37 wins with this guy

[SA37]

I was playing around on fanspo, attempting to do a 3 way deal with GSW and LAL.

Sent out Wiggins and attempted to sign and trade for Kuminga on a 2 year deal.

It failed, stating Kuminga's deal would have to be 3 or 4 years in length.

Any sign and trade deal must be at least 3 years in length.

What type of yearly amount do you think Kuminga would warrant?

Seems like an anti cap space deal to make for Miami. Anti-plan.

He reportedly wanted the max from the Warriors. Not sure what the number is, but I'd guess it'd be a deal starting in the low-mid 30s per year.

It's hard to imagine anyone giving him that kind of money. I'd be shocked if anyone were willing to offer him more than 150% of the MLE (~28M/year). Since Golden St can match any offer, teams are going to have to come up with an offer Golden St won't match -- and GS supposedly offered Kuming something in the $25-$30M/year range.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[RexBoyWonder]

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So this Brett Siegel guy suddenly became the Woj of the Miami Heat?

Bucks have absolutely nothing to offer, I hate Wiggins but we're not trading him for frigging Kuzma.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Duncan has to opt out tomorrow to renegotiate contract

[RexBoyWonder]

Any sign and trade deal must be at least 3 years in length.

What type of yearly amount do you think Kuminga would warrant?

Seems like an anti cap space deal to make for Miami. Anti-plan.

He reportedly wanted the max from the Warriors. Not sure what the number is, but I'd guess it'd be a deal starting in the low-mid 30s per year.

It's hard to imagine anyone giving him that kind of money. I'd be shocked if anyone were willing to offer him more than 150% of the MLE (~28M/year). Since Golden St can match any offer, teams are going to have to come up with an offer Golden St won't match -- and GS supposedly offered Kuming something in the $25-$30M/year range.

He's not getting the Max or near max from anyone, GSW are at 170Mil before even paying Gary Payton and Looney. Keeping Kuminga will cost a TON in tax. Almost no other team has enough money to give him without a S&T, I think we can make something happen.

[Flash4thewin]

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12 per puts his deal on par with TJ McConnell so not bad at all. We are over the tax line so almost seems like a foregone conclusion Duncan is getting axed.

Basically the non tax players MLE and its just for two years.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

What picks does Milwaukee have?

[Mk613]

Wouldn’t mind seeing the team go after jarred vanderbilt.

[DayofMourning]

What picks does Milwaukee have?

29, 31, 32 they own.

The rest are all swapped.

[contract]

Duncan has to opt out tomorrow to renegotiate contract

If he's dumb enough to opt out, don't even bother to thank him, just run in opposite direction.

[Beenie]

If Mia could get a future FRP, it's worth considering as a fallback option.



Gonna be soft tanking this year anyways.

Keeps Bam happy

Gives the fans a comeback story to root for which will mildly pacify them from the horrendous on-court product that will be trotted out

And yes the future pick is the main factor

[Wiltside]

I’m fine with the 2/$24m for Davion. It’s not a long term commitment, and it gives both parties a chance to see what’s there without a super heavy investment. I thought it was going to be a 3/40 type contract, so I’m pleased with this.

He was good for us as both a starter and sub last year and fits what we do. If he has an average year, he’s basically a $12m expiring after that.

[jbsays]

I think we all like Davion. He plays hard and is fun to watch. Obviously he's not really going to move the needle too much, but he's a legit NBA player and only 26 so maybe he exceeds his contract. Heat could definitely do worse for that deal.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If Mia could get a future FRP, it's worth considering as a fallback option.



Gonna be soft tanking this year anyways.

Keeps Bam happy

Gives the fans a comeback story to root for which will mildly pacify them from the horrendous on-court product that will be trotted out

And yes the future pick is the main factor

If they’re serious about snagging a superstar in the near future things like this is what they should be exploring in the meantime to accumulate assets. Similar to the Beal situation. I don’t think the Bucks have the assets to justify being able to dump Dame like this though.

[Beenie]

If Mia could get a future FRP, it's worth considering as a fallback option.



Gonna be soft tanking this year anyways.

Keeps Bam happy

Gives the fans a comeback story to root for which will mildly pacify them from the horrendous on-court product that will be trotted out

And yes the future pick is the main factor

If they’re serious about snagging a superstar in the near future things like this is what they should be exploring in the meantime to accumulate assets. Similar to the Beal situation. I don’t think the Bucks have the assets to justify being able to dump Dame like this though.

Would be a desperate move for them in an attempt to keep a competitive team around Giannis.

Hypothetically, if they were to do this, if/when it fails, they're probably gonna trade Giannis away for the biggest pick package that's ever been traded for and that'll more than replenish all of their lost picks.

But at least they can tell themselves and their fans that they tried everything possible to keep Giannis before ultimately pulling the plug on the Giannis era.

[HeatIn5]

If Mia could get a future FRP, it's worth considering as a fallback option.



Gonna be soft tanking this year anyways.

Keeps Bam happy

Gives the fans a comeback story to root for which will mildly pacify them from the horrendous on-court product that will be trotted out

And yes the future pick is the main factor

If they’re serious about snagging a superstar in the near future things like this is what they should be exploring in the meantime to accumulate assets. Similar to the Beal situation. I don’t think the Bucks have the assets to justify being able to dump Dame like this though.

Honestly, yea. Let’s say it’s Wiggins and Terry for Dame and a protected 2031ish pick.

You either get dame back on an expiring deal in 26-27 or you have an amazing trade chip. It’s the kinda flyer we should be taking.

He may not help us as much as rui this year obviously but the upside is very high.

Imagine if next year Luka or one of the big FAs is looking for a new home and we can move Lillards expiring deal to their team in a sign and trade.