MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[Flash4thewin]

I like a deal similar to what Twix posted:

Heat get:
Sexton-Love

Cavs get:

Herro- Iggy- Dragic

It’ll be hard for Cleveland to unload Love and I think this is one of the few instances it makes sense for. Oth sides. Cleveland gets gets flexibility and although overpaid, Love is a good fit next to Bam.

Herro for Sexton could make sense for both teams. Miami would need to sweeten the pot a bit.

Objectively that’s just a trash trade for the Cavs, they can do so much better. We need to remember all of our players took a major hit with that pathetic display these playoffs. To say we would need to sweeten the pot is an understatement lol.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Knicks make a play for Sexton.

[RexBoyWonder]

Better sign Yurtasiete to a 5 year deal right now before he wants a 4 year 80 million contract.

LOL, I think some of you all will build at team full of Max players and 2-way contracts or rookies. Nothing in between lol

That's actually the smartest way to build.

Nets have 4 high salary guys and the rest are on rookie deals or minimum guys. If healthy they're a tier above everyone.

Max players and minimum players have the highest value because max players are the most important factor in winning in the playoffs, a lot of them would have made more then the max in a totally unchecked free market. And good minimum guys can give you 80-90% of the production that a high paid role gives you, while making 10% of his salary - which allows you to pay your 3-4 high paid players.

Big 3 worked, and would've worked even better if we had a legit 4th star next to Wade/Lebron/Bosh instead of spending money on Miller + UD.

[DayofMourning]

That's actually the smartest way to build.

Nets have 4 high salary guy and the rest are rookie deal or minimum guys. If healthy they're a tier above everyone.

Max players and minimum players have the highest value because max players are the most important, alot of them would have made more then the max on a totally unchecked free market. And good minimum guys can give you 80-90% of the production that a high paid role give you, while making 10% of his salary - which allows you to pay your 3-4 high paid players.

Big 3 worked, and would've worked even better if we had a legit 4th star next to Wade/Lebron/Bosh instead of spending money on Miller + UD.

We're going to do it this year, Rex. Butler, Bam, KP, then Sexton will get his.

[RexBoyWonder]

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Barry Jackson today says Heat are really high on Yurtseven. Looks like our Center spot with Bam,Dedmon, and Yurtseven will be solid. Now time to find some 4’s.

From the moment I saw game I was thinking this guy if he pans out is the new Myles Leonard - he's the classic fit next to Bam and could see him starting later in the season if we don't get a legit proven big.

Soft touch, can shoot, legit C size.

Leonard and Bam were a good front court despite Leonard being a below average starter by himself.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Let’s see how he does without Spo dictating the way he needs to play. Very interested in watching Team Nigeria.

[RexBoyWonder]

Spacing is how defenders defend you. Hint how the defense space out to defend you. Its not your percentage. The Pelicans need a spacer so Zion can carry the team as a scorer.

Pelicans have Kira Lewis who they are very high on and has more potential than Ball. Pelicans were exploring trading Lonzo because they want to give the reign to Lewis.

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Doesn’t make sense, Twix. If you’re being guarded behind the three point line while Zion is operating in the paint, you’re providing that space and the percentages with the volume only shows further evidence of that. I believe he was their best three point shooter too. If they need the spacing and they do, then it’s maybe not a good idea to keep Bledsoe and extend Adams.

If they truly wanted to hand the reigns over to Kira, Lonzo would’ve been gone already at the deadline. There were deals out there and they decided against it.

Teams did not stick to Lonzo at the three point line. They were still cheating off of him through the season, and when he took the open shots he proved he can knock them down. However teams are were still willing to cheat off of him because they ultimately do not think his shooting can carry an offense. The whole goal is to stop Zion. It was proven right by the Pelicans continue to lose. Duncan is a totally different weapon. Teams fear his shooting, they will chase him at the three point line, even when his doesnt have the ball. That is true spacing. I really shouldnt have to explain Robinson importance as a role player.

At the end of the day Lonzo and Robinson are role players. Rather you prefer either roles, it doesnt matter. It only matter how they fit the team. The Pelican's have Lewis, they do like him. Lonzo is nothing but a trade pawn to them. Its been rumored that Pelicans will go hard after Robinson. If they truly want him that bad, I can see them easily trading Ball for Robinson and move Lewis to the starting point. I agree that they have more than one issue with spacing, but adding Robinson fills a huge amount of that void. And depending on how good Lewis becomes that void can be filled even more.

I know some here like Lonzo style of play, and a few still think he has high potential to be a star. I do not think the majority of the league feels that way. I think teams like him, but not as he was a rookie prospect but as quality role player.

I am just going by what I seeing and how the Pelicans are acting. I am not trying to rip Lonzo, like I said he has finally developed into a quality player.



How you see the defender defend Lonzo is called bad spacing. Granted he is knocking down the open shots very well, but teams are collapsing on Zion off of him. I know you will say that is just one game. It is not just one game, I looked at 5 games in the last few months of the season. Teams were still willing to give Zo open looks.

What you see in Robinson snips is called Spacing. See how defender will not cheat off of him and defend him at the 3 point line at all times. That is called spacing, not your three point percentage. Your percentage can lead to spacing, but the defender has to actually do so.

Great post and breakdown.

On a side note people need to realize that out PG needs to be more then a spot up shooter. I don't even buy Lonzo being a really good reliable shooter, but even if I did - it wasn't enough for us because he can't create anything for himself - he never drives and finish and he can't shoot of the move. Our PG next to Bam and Jimmy HAS TO be a shot CREATOR. Not a role player that only shoots when left open.

[DayofMourning]

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Let’s see how he does without Spo dictating the way he needs to play. Very interested in watching Team Nigeria.

Boy is a project. He does have a fundamentally solid shot. Just needs to work on fine tuning the consistency. Same with his athleticism. He's got loads of it, but he's unrefined. He goes into a spin move and I'm ducking for cover. He's about three years away I think. When he gets it together though....ho boy, should be good.

[DayofMourning]

On a side note people need to realize that out PG needs to be more then a spot up shooter. I don't even buy Lonzo being a really good reliable shooter, but even if I did - it wasn't enough for us because he can't create anything for himself - he never drives and finish and he can't shoot of the move. Our PG next to Bam and Jimmy HAS TO be a shot CREATOR. Not a role player that only shoots when left open.

Sexton, Rex. You just defined Sexton.

He's coming.

[RexBoyWonder]

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Heat are trying to get Sexton, Kevin Love and 2nd round picks. And has gone as far to get a third team involved. Likely a place for Dragic and Iggy to rerouted too

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I wrote about this exact trade like a week ago, funny.

It makes sense, Love sucking so bad actually helped us because taking him evens-out our lack of trade assets.

In theory - Healthy motivated Love is a great fit next to Bam and Sexton is a great fit with everyone too.

This move probably is the highest ceiling raiser move we can realistically make without risking our long term future with a broken Prozingis 3-4 years from now. (love only has 2 years left).

[RexBoyWonder]

Love-Bam front court in team US just became a must watch.

If Love evens gets minutes :/

[Bishop45]

Better sign Yurtasiete to a 5 year deal right now before he wants a 4 year 80 million contract.

LOL, I think some of you all will build at team full of Max players and 2-way contracts or rookies. Nothing in between lol

That's actually the smartest way to build.

Nets have 4 high salary guys and the rest are on rookie deals or minimum guys. If healthy they're a tier above everyone.

Max players and minimum players have the highest value because max players are the most important factor in winning in the playoffs, a lot of them would have made more then the max in a totally unchecked free market. And good minimum guys can give you 80-90% of the production that a high paid role gives you, while making 10% of his salary - which allows you to pay your 3-4 high paid players.

Big 3 worked, and would've worked even better if we had a legit 4th star next to Wade/Lebron/Bosh instead of spending money on Miller + UD.

Glad you've come around on this concept. Top-tier talent, especially when available>

[Bishop45]

Love-Bam front court in team US just became a must watch.

If Love evens gets minutes :/

Probably during scrimmage, if that's going to be aired

[DayofMourning]

It's almost the perfect trade.

[heater4life]

I like a deal similar to what Twix posted:

Heat get:
Sexton-Love

Cavs get:

Herro- Iggy- Dragic

It’ll be hard for Cleveland to unload Love and I think this is one of the few instances it makes sense for. Oth sides. Cleveland gets gets flexibility and although overpaid, Love is a good fit next to Bam.

Herro for Sexton could make sense for both teams. Miami would need to sweeten the pot a bit.

Objectively that’s just a trash trade for the Cavs, they can do so much better. We need to remember all of our players took a major hit with that pathetic display these playoffs. To say we would need to sweeten the pot is an understatement lol.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Knicks make a play for Sexton.

Taking on Love with his injury history is no small endeavor. Now whether or not Cleveland is willing to take less to accomplish that is just speculation on my part.

The Heat do not give up Dragic and Iggy for Love unless they receive an asset in return. Maybe they look to a Sexton deal to accomplish both.

[RexBoyWonder]

I like a deal similar to what Twix posted:

Heat get:
Sexton-Allen

Cavs get:

Herro- Iggy- Dragic-Precious-KZ

Herro for Sexton could make sense for both teams. Miami would need to sweeten the pot a bit.

I changed it up a little bit.

Sure Allen >> Love at this stage BUT Allen-Bam front court could kill our offense if Bam doesn't come out firing long 2's from day 1. Allen has no outside game at all.

[DayofMourning]

I like a deal similar to what Twix posted:

Heat get:
Sexton-Allen

Cavs get:

Herro- Iggy- Dragic-Precious-KZ

Herro for Sexton could make sense for both teams. Miami would need to sweeten the pot a bit.

I changed it up a little bit.

Sure Allen >> Love at this stage BUT Allen-Bam front court could kill our offense if Bam doesn't come out firing long 2's from day 1. Allen has no outside game at all.

Yes. I would expect Bam to be a mid range monster for this to work. He's a pretty darn good shooter from mid range right now. Once he gets his confidence and initiative up to take it at higher volume, he could use a board buddy to help out.

[Bishop45]

Even if Bam's DeRozan at midrange, that offense would not be good

[Wiltside]

If this season tells me anything, it’s that we’re not that far away from title contention.

The Suns added Chris Paul and Jae Crowder. Majority of their other pieces were already there - Booker, Ayton, Bridges and Cam Johnson. The bench crew are a bunch of journeymen (Payne, Saric, Craig). Internal growth, maturity and chemistry did the rest.

It doesn’t take much to shift the dynamic of your team. It just takes the right pieces. Granted Paul is a big one - but he was damaged goods on a chitty contract 18 months ago. Sometimes you take the gamble and it pays off.

We already have a couple really good pieces, we just need the next move or two to be the right ones and we’ll be in the hunt.

[IceColdCubano]

If this season tells me anything, it’s that we’re not that far away from title contention.

The Suns added Chris Paul and Jae Crowder. Majority of their other pieces were already there - Booker, Ayton, Bridges and Cam Johnson. The bench crew are a bunch of journeymen (Payne, Saric, Craig). Internal growth, maturity and chemistry did the rest.

It doesn’t take much to shift the dynamic of your team. It just takes the right pieces. Granted Paul is a big one - but he was damaged goods on a chitty contract 18 months ago. Sometimes you take the gamble and it pays off.

We already have a couple really good pieces, we just need the next move or two to be the right ones and we’ll be in the hunt.

Had a lot to do with our defense we couldn't stop anybody from scoring and our 3pt shooting went to crap that was our two mayor issues, I think BAM & Jimmy would have figured it out on the next series, it just everything that could have went wrong went wrong at once hence the sweep.

[heater4life]

If this season tells me anything, it’s that we’re not that far away from title contention.

The Suns added Chris Paul and Jae Crowder. Majority of their other pieces were already there - Booker, Ayton, Bridges and Cam Johnson. The bench crew are a bunch of journeymen (Payne, Saric, Craig). Internal growth, maturity and chemistry did the rest.

It doesn’t take much to shift the dynamic of your team. It just takes the right pieces. Granted Paul is a big one - but he was damaged goods on a chitty contract 18 months ago. Sometimes you take the gamble and it pays off.

We already have a couple really good pieces, we just need the next move or two to be the right ones and we’ll be in the hunt.

Agreed.

The likeliest of those moves being adding a a vet guard like Lowry through ST, resigning Duncan, and depth via the MLE.