Offseason Thread VOL 4- MILLSAP MANIA

Post #1781 » by **Wiltside** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:23 pm

Get the burger with the lot Andy, treat yourself.

Rapaz · Post #1782 » by **Rapaz** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:30 pm

Heat Lifer

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #1783 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:36 pm

Perhaps Andy is just talking to Marks about unretiring and filling our PF void

MorbidHEAT · Post #1784 » by **MorbidHEAT** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:37 pm

Rapaz wrote:

Read on Twitter

Damn....that was cold. Lol

This has been one of the most annoying free agencies I've ever seen. Not even The Decision held up free agency like this.

AirP. · Post #1785 » by **AirP.** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:40 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Apparently Nets don’t value Herro

This is speculation, Brooklyn will play hardball to get more assets. Unless it hits the media that they reject an offer set around Tyler Herro its just speak.

It may be speculation, but it may be real, there seems to be a lot of different thoughts on Herro from different GMs that were asked in Summer League recently. If Brooklyn happens to be one of those teams that doesn't value Herro like some other teams do, you don't just keep banging your head on the wall, you bring more teams into the fold who value Herro more and move Herro elsewhere to get good assets to reroute assets to Brooklyn. At this point I'd think it's more about Brooklyn and Miami working together to try to find an acceptable trade package with a 3rd and possibly 4th team in the mix.

Rodrizzle · Post #1786 » by **Rodrizzle** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:42 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Perhaps Andy is just talking to Marks about unretiring and filling our PF void

Nah, Marks is too young for us

IceColdCubano · Post #1787 » by **IceColdCubano** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 pm

Rapaz wrote:

Heat Lifer

You thought we got some hate when the big three formed, if we get Durant without giving up Bam or Jimmy and we just send out 3 FRPs some swaps, Lowry, Herro, Yurt......get ready for some seathing Fans!!!!

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1788 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:47 pm

Read on Twitter

This is true. Bam is the one recruiting KD here anyways

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1789 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:48 pm

That Herro **** is weird lol. It must be annoying being a professional athlete, can’t even post about your baby without a bunch of stuff like that in the comments

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1790 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:49 pm

Bam will go down as a top 5 Heat player in history and the 2nd best recruiter

MorbidHEAT · Post #1791 » by **MorbidHEAT** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:50 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
Rapaz wrote:

Heat Lifer

You thought we got some hate when the big three formed, if we get Durant without giving up Bam or Jimmy and we just send out 3 FRPs some swaps, Lowry, Herro, Yurt......get ready for some seathing Fans!!!!

I honestly still can't see Miami sending out Bam for Durant. I'm taking an I'll believe it when I see it approach there. I'm willing to bet that Unless Giannis, Jokic, or Embid become available, then Bam is untouchable to Pat. I said those 3 because of position, I don't think Pat would trade Bam for anything but a big, maybe except Luka.

Also, Durant simply wouldn't want to play for Heat team without Bam.

IceColdCubano · Post #1792 » by **IceColdCubano** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 pm

AirP. wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

Apparently Nets don’t value Herro

This is speculation, Brooklyn will play hardball to get more assets. Unless it hits the media that they reject an offer set around Tyler Herro its just speak.

It may be speculation, but it may be real, there seems to be a lot of different thoughts on Herro from different GMs that were asked in Summer League recently. If Brooklyn happens to be one of those teams that doesn't value Herro like some other teams do, you don't just keep banging your head on the wall, you bring more teams into the fold who value Herro more and move Herro elsewhere to get good assets to reroute assets to Brooklyn. At this point I'd think it's more about Brooklyn and Miami working together to try to find an acceptable trade package with a 3rd and possibly 4th team in the mix.

Lets say they did value him as a mid tier scorer, if we go on a A-F grading perhaps a B. Would they really say they did or would they down play it so that Miami can load up on the offer a bit more. I mean I know the teams that don't have a horse in this race could speak truthfully and say they do not value him, but would the team receiving him say otherwise to get less in return, doubtful. However if Brooklyn does not value Herro, they could go out and say it, and tell Miami to go find a third/fourth to make it work. If all is silent than things are getting worked out behind the scenes as they should.

fishfuego. · Post #1793 » by **fishfuego.** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:57 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Bam will go down as a top 5 Heat player in history and the 2nd best recruiter

Sorry but no.
Wade
Lebron
Shaq
Zo
Bosh
Jimmy
Tim Hardaway
Rice
Smith
Ray Allen

That’s just at the top of my head.

Beenie · Post #1794 » by **Beenie** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:57 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is true. Bam is the one recruiting KD here anyways

Seems like a take and not a report.

Hallstar · Post #1795 » by **Hallstar** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:59 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
AirP. wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:This is speculation, Brooklyn will play hardball to get more assets. Unless it hits the media that they reject an offer set around Tyler Herro its just speak.

It may be speculation, but it may be real, there seems to be a lot of different thoughts on Herro from different GMs that were asked in Summer League recently. If Brooklyn happens to be one of those teams that doesn't value Herro like some other teams do, you don't just keep banging your head on the wall, you bring more teams into the fold who value Herro more and move Herro elsewhere to get good assets to reroute assets to Brooklyn. At this point I'd think it's more about Brooklyn and Miami working together to try to find an acceptable trade package with a 3rd and possibly 4th team in the mix.

Lets say they did value him as a mid tier scorer, if we go on a A-F grading perhaps a B. Would they really say they did or would they down play it so that Miami can load up on the offer a bit more. I mean I know the teams that don't have a horse in this race could speak truthfully and say they do not value him, but would the team receiving him say otherwise to get less in return, doubtful. However if Brooklyn does not value Herro, they could go out and say it, and tell Miami to go find a third/fourth to make it work. If all is silent than things are getting worked out behind the scenes as they should.

Like I said previously, the problem is that HErro doesn't have to just lift his own trade value, he also has to carry the weight of RObinson and whatever other long contract you're tacking on from our side. Having a Westbrook like expiring would be beneficial to us.

Rapaz · Post #1796 » by **Rapaz** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:01 pm

Suns Lifer

goodboy · Post #1797 » by **goodboy** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:05 pm

wtf we doin

heater4life · Post #1798 » by **heater4life** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:11 pm

goodboy wrote:wtf we doin

Feeding Andy

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #1799 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:13 pm

Playing the value game is going to get the Nets no where. There's really no way to measure the Value of a player like Durant so I get having to set the bar at all star level player but theres only 24 allstars every year and out of the 4-8 fringe allstars, chances are their teams aren't in the market or in a situation where a KD trade makes sense for them. So the market for KD is really small so the nets are trying to leverage as much as they can to maximize their return but I'd be surprised if they walked out of this with a major haul.

MartyCONLONNN · Post #1800 » by **MartyCONLONNN** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:16 pm

Beenie wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is true. Bam is the one recruiting KD here anyways

Seems like a take and not a report.

most definitely a take. at this point it’s clear no1 knows exactly what the core of potential trade looks like except for the men sitting at that table for close to 2 hours. i also wish people would stop underestimating Jimmys relationships with stars just because hes not as outspoken and friendly after games as Bam. Jimmy is the guy that was putting up 40 point games in the playoffs and single handedly carrying the team in the biggest moments. i think stars would like to play with a guy like that over a buddy who is still figuring out when/how to show up.

I do hope there is a way to keep Bam in a KD trade btw, but Jimmy isnt getting enough credit here IMO.