Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0

[greg4012]

If you would’ve told me at the end of last season we were gonna trade for Scary Terry I would’ve just gave up on the season from then. This move doesn’t make me happy, nope. You guys are too easily pleased lol

Then what are you doing here?

You can give up now

Hoping we make an ACTUAL winning trade by the deadline. Not a money saving move disguised as an upgrade. Still have a massive hole at PF. There’s still “hope” but it’s very minimal imo

Down to see another move. Also down to see us roll with this squad and have you stand by your word and go bye bye.

Interestingly, if Miami doesn't make another move, the result is Miami ending up in a tougher financial situation than if no move were made for Terry. May be tough for you to rationalize that one.

Side note: fudging numbers to fit your feelings and playing "what if the other team gained more advantage, then we wouldn't have done as well" are nice creative thinking exercises, but aren't compelling for making any case.

[Lennyzinho]

Right now we are in that 4-6th range. We still need a legit all star to be added for this to change. Until then we are once again a fairy tale underdog story

We got Rozier, which many have pointed out will have a positive cascading effect on this offense. At least we hope it will!

And now we can also get a full MLE player in buyout market at 5M. Maybe Hayward. Maybe Dinwiddie. Maybe Dario Saric. Maybe Kelly Olynyk.

Having a healthy Herro, a rookie JJJ, a solid buyout player (hopefully), Thomas Bryant and Terry Rozier is, imo, far better than Lowry and Gabe being horrendous, Cody effin' zeller and Strus.

The rest of the team is the same.

Time will tell. There will be some bumps and bruises with spo tinkering with lineups so let's be patient. I know it's v hard lmao.

[SerialChiller]

I'm not expecting 23 a night from Terry. We play at a slower pace and he's going to have to share the shot diet with Herro, Jimmy, Bam and others. But a more efficient 18 and perhaps some solid defense would be a welcome addition, as well as having a player who can hit the middy, pull up 3's, and get into the paint effectively.

And actually run a pick and roll with Bam and throw him or JJJ some lobs!

[Bourne85]

Then what are you doing here?

You can give up now

Hoping we make an ACTUAL winning trade by the deadline. Not a money saving move disguised as an upgrade. Still have a massive hole at PF. There’s still “hope” but it’s very minimal imo

Down to see another move. Also down to see us roll with this squad and have you stand by your word and go bye bye.

Interestingly, if Miami doesn't make another move, the result is Miami ending up in a tougher financial situation than if no move were made for Terry. May be tough for you to rationalize that one.

Side note: fudging numbers to fit your feelings and playing "what if the other team gained more advantage, then we wouldn't have done as well" are nice creative thinking exercises, but aren't compelling for making any case.

Nope, next season we will be exhausting all avenues to once again save money. Just you wait. I’d go as far as saying if we disappoint this year, we might even see Jimmy getting traded next

[inhabitMiami]

Hoping we make an ACTUAL winning trade by the deadline. Not a money saving move disguised as an upgrade. Still have a massive hole at PF. There’s still “hope” but it’s very minimal imo

Down to see another move. Also down to see us roll with this squad and have you stand by your word and go bye bye.

Interestingly, if Miami doesn't make another move, the result is Miami ending up in a tougher financial situation than if no move were made for Terry. May be tough for you to rationalize that one.

Side note: fudging numbers to fit your feelings and playing "what if the other team gained more advantage, then we wouldn't have done as well" are nice creative thinking exercises, but aren't compelling for making any case.

Nope, next season we will be exhausting all avenues to once again save money. Just you wait. I’d go as far as saying if we disappoint this year, we might even see Jimmy getting traded next

So stop watching?

[Wiltside]

Love that Terry is going to be sizing up Boston. Full circle moment.

Gives us someone that Jrue is going to have to worry about. That is, if Jrue isn't taking Round 2 on Jimmy after being flat out embarassed last season

[Wiltside]

Have to assume we're looking at a 4 next. I wonder who we have our eyes on.

[Flash4thewin]

I understand some of us are apprehensive thinking this is a cost cutting move, it's not. We got a steal of a player for what a low first round draft pick? Many of us have been desperate for some type of move, to show we are actually trying to win a championship. Actions speak louder than words and our front office these past few years has been bluntly disappointing. Hopefully this is just a first step in the right direction which has been long overdue.

[Wiltside]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

[inhabitMiami]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Green doesn't make sense here.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I wonder if we still have interest in Bruce brown? Likely not but he’s essentially a $23M expiring

[Enso]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Green doesn't make sense here.

prime draymond would be a terror with bam at least he could shoot able then too

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Any 4 we trade for using Duncan has to be expiring

[Enso]

What’s interesting about Lowry unfollowing specific guys is that you know he didn’t like those guys lol makes it so obvious

[Wiltside]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Green doesn't make sense here.

I think he makes sense - defensively, that's a very tough frontcourt to score against. He's averaging 1.2 threes per game this season on 44% (albeit low volume). Hardly differs from what Niko or Highsmith offer, and Draymond atleast brings some Championship pedigree.

Rozier
Herro
Butler
Green
Adebayo

Would be a tough team to score on with the defensive strength of that frontcourt making up for the potentially weak backcourt defenders, and spacing would be OK with Rozier/Herro and Draymond is averaging 1.2 threes on 44% this season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of Draymond, but if you're going all in and want to make a run at it - it's a fair question. He has Championship pedigree and experience, even with the histrionics.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I can’t lie now that we have Terry if Draymond was expiring I’d actually be very interested in that

[Wiltside]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Any 4 we trade for using Duncan has to be expiring

Looking at the FA list, there aint many to choose from.

[inhabitMiami]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Green doesn't make sense here.

I think he makes sense - defensively, that's a very tough frontcourt to score against. He's averaging 1.2 threes per game this season on 44% (albeit low volume). Hardly differs from what Niko or Highsmith offer, and Draymond atleast brings some Championship pedigree.

Rozier
Herro
Butler
Green
Adebayo

Would be a tough team to score on with the defensive strength of that frontcourt making up for the potentially weak backcourt defenders, and spacing would be OK with Rozier/Herro and Draymond is averaging 1.2 threes on 44% this season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of Draymond, but if you're going all in and want to make a run at it - it's a fair question. He has Championship pedigree and experience, even with the histrionics.

Dray is not a shooter. The 44% is a) insignificant volume and b) extremely small sample size. The spacing would be horrific with Butler/Green/Bam upfront. Teams are leaving Dray wide open and clogging the paint. He doesn't create any spacing.

I agree that defensively it would be incredible. The histrionics don't factor into anything for me.

[Bourne85]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Maybe, but they wouldn’t give up one of their legends for that package

Also Jimmy Bam Draymond, not enough spacing at all imo

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wonder if Golden State are entertaining a Draymond trade.

Green
Moses Moody
Corey Joseph

for

Robinson
Martin
Jovic
Dru Smith

Any 4 we trade for using Duncan has to be expiring

Looking at the FA list, there aint many to choose from.

Yea I think we’re basically set at the 4 and I think we may also target PJ Tucker when he’s bought out. Unless we land a KO deal to bring him home