Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Part 1 - Can You Feel It?

[AirP.]

The dynasty is over for the poor warriors. They also got to deal with the fact they let “ Brother Nunn” slip away. Poor souls.

Do you think the dynasty is over? GS being forced to tank plus the D'Lo trade probably gave them a 2nd dynasty. They'll be bad enough to get a very high draft pick next year and also cashing in D'Lo for let's say a package from Minnesota's that includes Covington and Culver and this team is ready for a 2nd set of final runs. Curry, Culver, Thompson, Covington, and Green while tossing in a pretty high lottery pick from the next draft, that's a top contender. All they have to do now is find/develop some depth(1-3 players) for the next few years. Golden State could have a stronger team going forward then they were before KD arrived.

Trading D'Lo is the key for their future.

Their main guys are all on the wrong side of 30, and they play in stacked West where teams like Suns, Mavs & Wolves have gotten better. I doubt the Wolves would even do the trade given how good they are right now. They are in win now mode.

Wolves in win now mode? That's going to sound silly in a month. They're still trying to build a core long term to go with Towns.

Golden State Curry, Thompson, and even Draymond will be in their early 30s so they're going to be at the end of their primes still and be a really good team. Had Klay not gotten hurt, even without Draymond they probably would have won the championship last year. Toss a lottery pick with whatever they get with D'Lo, they 'll be a force to reckon for the next 3-4 years.

[contract]

I know everyone is feeling really good and losing their minds because we're playing really well, but I'm here to be your wet blanket reminder.

All Star caliber players: 1 ... Jimmy Butler

Near All Star caliber players: 0

Butler is a really good player, but any dreams of a deep playoff run are just dreams until we upgrade our talent. We won't make it out of the 2nd round with this group.

What we're seeing right now is just a variation on the 2nd half of the '16-'17 season.



You're welcome!

[Kobewade11]

you all remember when this guy used to be a good poster?






Yea neither do I

[AirP.]

I know everyone is feeling really good and losing their minds because we're playing really well, but I'm here to be your wet blanket reminder.

All Star caliber players: 1 ... Jimmy Butler

Near All Star caliber players: 0

Butler is a really good player, but any dreams of a deep playoff run are just dreams until we upgrade our talent. We won't make it out of the 2nd round with this group.

What we're seeing right now is just a variation on the 2nd half of the '16-'17 season.

You're welcome!

Miami was slept on because of unproven talent, I'm not saying it'll be as good as it's been, but the talent is there. Still need to add a defensive big behind Bam, Bam in foul trouble or injured will be very hard for this team to overcome, anyone else hurt or in foul trouble, the drop off isn't nearly as big. I'm not saying Miami is a strong contender coming out of the East but there is at least the possibility that it happens and who knows if Riley makes a big move(which he still should), this team is a lot closer than fans think it is because of the defense.

Who should they worry about?

Philly? They having a lot of higher level talent(which should wreck teams in the regular season and early playoff rounds) but they're not much bigger than Miami and really have no proven closer... plus Simmons' lack of a solid outside shot will be something a good defensive team can utilize. I think ultimately B.Brown is problem with that team because he will allow teams to hav a real shot at beating them because he'll keep Embiid at the 3pt line and still have a very limited B.Simmons in the half court where you can pack the lane(which leads to even more Embiid at the 3pt line). Embiid should be 5-10 feet away from that basket at nearly all times, he's just too big and strong to be out at the 3pt line.

Milwaukee? Giannis and the rest. Is Middleton really that good of a 2nd player, will Bledsoe disappear in the playoffs like usual. Luckily with Miami, they have a lot of different looks they can throw at Giannis that are "decent" with Bam possibly the only good option on him.

Boston? Nobody on their squad as good as Butler although Hayward and Tatum could be near that level come playoffs. Boston better find 1 or 2 bigs or they could be in trouble in the playoffs.

Any other team I think Miami has a really good chance to beat. If you can play good defense, have a guy who can score in the clutch, and also have some talent on the offensive end, are you ever really out of a playoff round, especially in the East.

[dcee101]

I know everyone is feeling really good and losing their minds because we're playing really well, but I'm here to be your wet blanket reminder.

All Star caliber players: 1 ... Jimmy Butler

Near All Star caliber players: 0

Butler is a really good player, but any dreams of a deep playoff run are just dreams until we upgrade our talent. We won't make it out of the 2nd round with this group.

What we're seeing right now is just a variation on the 2nd half of the '16-'17 season.



You're welcome!

Is this a joke?

Miami is as deep as it's ever been. The EC is weak. Miami can make it to the ECF and possibly beyond with this crazy depth and scorers all over the court.

This team is going places.

[eddieheatfan]

I know everyone is feeling really good and losing their minds because we're playing really well, but I'm here to be your wet blanket reminder.

All Star caliber players: 1 ... Jimmy Butler

Near All Star caliber players: 0

Butler is a really good player, but any dreams of a deep playoff run are just dreams until we upgrade our talent. We won't make it out of the 2nd round with this group.

What we're seeing right now is just a variation on the 2nd half of the '16-'17 season.



You're welcome!

you could be right but boy the hype feels so good right now

[KingDavid]

Defensive big behind Bam? What about Chris Silva?

[Dr_Heat]

5 post up=

[Majestic7]

I know everyone is feeling really good and losing their minds because we're playing really well, but I'm here to be your wet blanket reminder.

All Star caliber players: 1 ... Jimmy Butler

Near All Star caliber players: 0

Butler is a really good player, but any dreams of a deep playoff run are just dreams until we upgrade our talent. We won't make it out of the 2nd round with this group.

What we're seeing right now is just a variation on the 2nd half of the '16-'17 season.



You're welcome!

You have the right to your opinion…but, that's all it is, just your opinion. Your glass is half empty. That's my opinion. We're all Heat fans and that's the common thread. If you can't allow yourself to feel good after a win like this one, then what's the point? This was a complete total domination on both ends of the court against one of the best teams in the NBA. As Meyers said in his post game interview, this is a very unselfish team (especially Butler) with very talented players who's single focus is to win games. No telling how far this team can go this season, but that's the fun of it, enjoying the journey all the way to the end. I don't have much doubt that this year will be very different than the ones we've experienced the last few years.

[Bishop45]

Plenty of teams reached the conference finals without a second star, and Dragic's easily a near caliber star

Post was made to provoke reactions, and it was/will be effective.

We're a young team that's going to do young team things. Enjoy it.

[dolphinatik]

Goran Dragic still a star and a huge part of our depth. The is little too no dropoff now from our starting unit.

I'd keep Dion too unless we get cardio space plus picks from an injury riddled team like golden state.

[Majestic7]

Plenty of teams reached the conference finals without a second star, and Dragic's easily a near caliber star

Post was made to provoke reactions, and it was/will be effective.

We're a young team that's going to do young team things. Enjoy it.

I am. I will.

Btw, I found two sites that replay NBA games for free. Just watched the Houston game again. Might make it three times later this evening. Now I gotta figure out how to save these replays to my desktop. Has to be a video downloader that will get the job done. Any advice is welcome.

[BFRESH44]

I know everyone is feeling really good and losing their minds because we're playing really well, but I'm here to be your wet blanket reminder.

All Star caliber players: 1 ... Jimmy Butler

Near All Star caliber players: 0

Butler is a really good player, but any dreams of a deep playoff run are just dreams until we upgrade our talent. We won't make it out of the 2nd round with this group.

What we're seeing right now is just a variation on the 2nd half of the '16-'17 season.



You're welcome!

Change your username to "contrarian"

[AirP.]

6 games in (BBREF ORTG - DRGT) not boxscore +/-

Core Players
Bam +27
Butler +19
Dragic +11
Nunn +7
Herro +3
Winslow -9

Role Players
DJJ +50
Leonard +38
Silva +29
Robinson +25
Olynyk -7
JJ +19

Most of the roster just fits together, this is what happens when the FO and coaching staff on the same page. Still need another defensive big so if Bam goes down it's not a huge drop off for the team. I really like how Spoelstra is moving the role players around the rotation to eat up game minutes without hurting the team, this only works if the players are willing to do it without letting their egos get in the way(which could happen down the road).

Miami has enough lower end rotation players to make a consolidation trade without hurting their depth too much while strengthening the top of the rotation. Justice could be the top asset being sent out in a consolidation trade, which would mean you're bring back a player better(and more expensive) then Justice.

The roleplayers will come down to earth(a big game or 2 in such a small amount of data) but the starters stay somewhat where they are for the season.

[Heat_Fan_87]

lots of potential with this team. not even sure i want to trade for another star at the moment. this team is balanced and deep.

keep playing hard on defense every night and move the ball on offense and we are going to be tough to beat.

[fouled out boy]

Plenty of teams reached the conference finals without a second star, and Dragic's easily a near caliber star

Post was made to provoke reactions, and it was/will be effective.

We're a young team that's going to do young team things. Enjoy it.

I am. I will.

Btw, I found two sites that replay NBA games for free. Just watched the Houston game again. Might make it three times later this evening. Now I gotta figure out how to save these replays to my desktop. Has to be a video downloader that will get the job done. Any advice is welcome.

I'm using this extension, however I've never tried to download vids as big as nba game using it -
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/flash-video-downloader/aiimdkdngfcipjohbjenkahhlhccpdbc

[AirP.]

Defensive big behind Bam? What about Chris Silva?

Ah, an unproven defensive big who's currently on a 2 way contract? How about let him be the 3rd defensive big (to continue to develop for the future) and get a PROVEN defensive big on the roster. For instance, find a way to turn one or 2 contracts Miami may not want(like Waiters +) into someone like Biyombo. I know it doesn't sound all that good but Miami needs some defensive big depth, it's not going to be pretty if Bam goes out for a couple of weeks and you're wanting Silva to be the defensive anchor.

BTW, C.Silva is currently averaging 10 fouls and 5.3 TOs per 36 minutes.

[Enso]

Plenty of teams reached the conference finals without a second star, and Dragic's easily a near caliber star

Post was made to provoke reactions, and it was/will be effective.

We're a young team that's going to do young team things. Enjoy it.

I am. I will.

Btw, I found two sites that replay NBA games for free. Just watched the Houston game again. Might make it three times later this evening. Now I gotta figure out how to save these replays to my desktop. Has to be a video downloader that will get the job done. Any advice is welcome.

Whats the site??

[MadD23]

6 games in (BBREF ORTG - DRGT) not boxscore +/-

Core Players
Bam +27
Butler +19
Dragic +11
Nunn +7
Herro +3
Winslow -9

Role Players
DJJ +50
Leonard +38
Silva +29
Robinson +25
Olynyk -7
JJ +19

Most of the roster just fits together, this is what happens when the FO and coaching staff on the same page. Still need another defensive big so if Bam goes down it's not a huge drop off for the team. I really like how Spoelstra is moving the role players around the rotation to eat up game minutes without hurting the team, this only works if the players are willing to do it without letting their egos get in the way(which could happen down the road).

Miami has enough lower end rotation players to make a consolidation trade without hurting their depth too much while strengthening the top of the rotation. Justice could be the top asset being sent out in a consolidation trade, which would mean you're bring back a player better(and more expensive) then Justice.

The roleplayers will come down to earth(a big game or 2 in such a small amount of data) but the starters stay somewhat where they are for the season.

I might be wrong, but I believe Justise makes this team worst. He is too much of a liability most games on offense and that allows the other team to play more efficient D against us. He also tends to want to dominate the ball and I just don't see how that's good for us. Of course he'll get 7 assists per game playing PG most of the game, is that really considered good? Tyler had 7 assists last night and barely handled the ball. The same with Bam, he is averaging over 5 assists and he barely initiates offense. And yes I know, Justise is a Dog defensively but does he really make us a better team?

I am still open minded and will give him at least until the AllStar Break before I pass my final judgment on him, but for some reason, every time he misses games, this team plays better. Winslow needs to become a consistant offensive weapon or else, he'll always be our weakest link and opponents will take full advantage of it when game planing against us.

[BFRESH44]

How do we feel about Andre Drummond as a potential free agent get this summer? He's going to pretty much be the marquee free agent. Beasting to start the year per usual. And I have a hunch he's itching to get out of Detroit, who have been stucked in mediocrity his entire career there. He also spends A LOT of time in Miami.

Would take some moving and shaking, (would need to shed Dion's expiring for sure, and possibly JJ). He's got some holes in his game (non shooter, a lil' turnover prone), so he's kind of a funky fit with Bam offensively, but we're going to need that beef and athletic presence inside to compete with Embiid for the next few years. Still only 26 years old. Get this dude in world class Heat shape, and you're looking at a mighty fine core group in the East.

Now, if Giannis passes on his super-max with Milwakuee, then forget it about. We're holding off and putting our hat in the ring for that bad boy.