Offseason Thread 2022 Vol 2- Sardines on Ice

[3ballbomber]

If Miami is looking for a third team like one dude said is lowry and herro going to the original destination and Duncan is being sent to another team? That’s all I can think of tbh

Riles trying to fleece & finesse a team by trying to keep Herro...

[Spacely]

If Miami is looking for a third team like one dude said is lowry and herro going to the original destination and Duncan is being sent to another team? That’s all I can think of tbh

Riles trying to fleece & finesse a team by trying to keep Herro...

If he can get a whale without giving up herro he is truly a legend

[Wiltside]

Riley’s legendary status is already signed, sealed and delivered. Anything further from here is a bonus.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

he cant possibly be serious. herro is the holdup?

HERRO!???!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I mean if Herro isn’t necessary for Kyrie we can get a pretty high level 4 or 5 next to Bam using Herro Duncan and picks after. I doubt that’s the case though

[Spacely]

I mean if Herro isn’t necessary for Kyrie we can get a pretty high level 4 or 5 next to Bam using Herro Duncan and picks after. I doubt that’s the case though

If we aren’t getting a whale for trading herro then no

[dean456]

Yeah, the Heat could try to play hardball with the Nets and keep Herro out of the deal. The thing is, it makes sense to move Herro. Get out of the problem of his extension plus it opens the door for a Oladipo return.

Unless they then turn around and package Herro + Duncan for a big time player.

If you can get Irving without giving up Herro you absolutely do it.

Ton of you valuing Herro based on what he will cost after his extension. He was largely ineffective during the playoffs compared to his regular season production but he still gave us 12.6ppg, 4rpg, 3apg if it were any other role player off the bench earning what Tyler was earning no one would care but because he needed to be our 2nd best scorer as he was during the regular season and wasn't people are losing it demanding him to be traded.

With Irving, Herro doesn't need to be that guy and having him back for another year at 5.6mil off the bench would not be a problem. Or if you can move him and Robinson for another guy to further improve the team then you do that.

[fishfuego.]

I mean if Herro isn’t necessary for Kyrie we can get a pretty high level 4 or 5 next to Bam using Herro Duncan and picks after. I doubt that’s the case though

If we aren’t getting a whale for trading herro then no

Correct.
You just don’t give away your top 2 scoring young asset unless for a whale. The same can be said about any other player not named Butler. I’ll be willing to give up Bam, Strus, Yurt, Vincent (any combination of the four) for a whale.

[puppa bear]

Stein is pretty reputable. This thing may actually have some legs.

Stein is also the one pushing the PJ to Philly move.

If we’re getting Kyrie, then I want another deal completed to replace PJ with a starting level PF - Duncan+ leftover Herro/picks for the best we can get.

[stepback_ftw]

Yeah, the Heat could try to play hardball with the Nets and keep Herro out of the deal. The thing is, it makes sense to move Herro. Get out of the problem of his extension plus it opens the door for a Oladipo return.

Unless they then turn around and package Herro + Duncan for a big time player.

If you can get Irving without giving up Herro you absolutely do it.

Ton of you valuing Herro based on what he will cost after his extension. He was largely ineffective during the playoffs compared to his regular season production but he still gave us 12.6ppg, 4rpg, 3apg if it were any other role player off the bench earning what Tyler was earning no one would care but because he needed to be our 2nd best scorer as he was during the regular season and wasn't people are losing it demanding him to be traded.

With Irving, Herro doesn't need to be that guy and having him back for another year at 5.6mil off the bench would not be a problem. Or if you can move him and Robinson for another guy to further improve the team then you do that.

If Herro and Duncan give the Heat consistent 3 balls in the playoffs Heat win the title.

[puppa bear]

Here’s one from left field for you all:

Heat: Lowry/PJ(S&T)/Robinson/Herro (or picks/Yurt/etc) for Kyrie/Harris

Nets: Kyrie for Lowry/Herro (or picks )

76ers: Harris for PJ (S&T)/Robinson

This gets 76ers the piece they want, while clearing space and getting a shooter. Nets swap PGs for one that isn’t a problem internally & pick up asset(s) (picks/Yurt/etc or Herro).

Heat get two pieces that help the win-now movement and give more offence. Harris’ deal is hideous, but if he was paid half he’d be a steal and desirable. Next to Bam he’d be a pretty good fit.
We can then resign Dipo & Martin to round out the roster. Kyrie/Dipo/Jimmy/Harris/Bam plus Gabe/Strus/Martin/Jovic/Yurt on the bench.

[dean456]

We might be trying to make the deal with Brooklyn and send them Lowry, Dipo S&T and FRP/s

That would be the smartest way to do this. I know some of you want Herro traded but like it or not Irving is a risk that could completely blow up in our face and cause huge issues for us just like he did with CLE, BOS and now BKN. Riley likely not going to risk our future on that. Adding Lowry, Dipo and bringing Simmons into the fold would improve Brooklyn defensively by quite a lot which was their weakest attribute last year. Also if KD is having any say in who he'd like in return in a Kyrie swap he may want guys like Lowry and Dipo who are smart veterans he can trust over a guy like Herro. Pleasing Durant likely would be BKNs number 1 priority.

[dean456]

Yeah, the Heat could try to play hardball with the Nets and keep Herro out of the deal. The thing is, it makes sense to move Herro. Get out of the problem of his extension plus it opens the door for a Oladipo return.

Unless they then turn around and package Herro + Duncan for a big time player.

If you can get Irving without giving up Herro you absolutely do it.

Ton of you valuing Herro based on what he will cost after his extension. He was largely ineffective during the playoffs compared to his regular season production but he still gave us 12.6ppg, 4rpg, 3apg if it were any other role player off the bench earning what Tyler was earning no one would care but because he needed to be our 2nd best scorer as he was during the regular season and wasn't people are losing it demanding him to be traded.

With Irving, Herro doesn't need to be that guy and having him back for another year at 5.6mil off the bench would not be a problem. Or if you can move him and Robinson for another guy to further improve the team then you do that.

If Herro and Duncan give the Heat consistent 3 balls in the playoffs Heat win the title.

You probably right and they probably do that a lot easier with a guy like Kyrie taking a lot more attention from them.

[dean456]

Here’s one from left field for you all:

Heat: Lowry/PJ(S&T)/Robinson/Herro (or picks/Yurt/etc) for Kyrie/Harris

Nets: Kyrie for Lowry/Herro (or picks )

76ers: Harris for PJ (S&T)/Robinson

This gets 76ers the piece they want, while clearing space and getting a shooter. Nets swap PGs for one that isn’t a problem internally & pick up asset(s) (picks/Yurt/etc or Herro).

Heat get two pieces that help the win-now movement and give more offence. Harris’ deal is hideous, but if he was paid half he’d be a steal and desirable. Next to Bam he’d be a pretty good fit.
We can then resign Dipo & Martin to round out the roster. Kyrie/Dipo/Jimmy/Harris/Bam plus Gabe/Strus/Martin/Jovic/Yurt on the bench.

I don't want any part of Harris' contract and I don't think he fits very good with Bam or Jimmy. Also think Robinson and PJ would improve that team quite a lot. They would compliment Harden/Maxey/Embiid's games very well. PJ/Robinson is great for Harden's/Maxey's drive and kicks and Embiid running DHO's with Robinson would be a great weapon for Embiid to dominate and Robinsons defensive deficiencies are covered up a lot with Embiid in the paint.

Don't want to have any part in helping Philly improve.

[Wiltside]

Here’s one from left field for you all:

Heat: Lowry/PJ(S&T)/Robinson/Herro (or picks/Yurt/etc) for Kyrie/Harris

Nets: Kyrie for Lowry/Herro (or picks )

76ers: Harris for PJ (S&T)/Robinson

This gets 76ers the piece they want, while clearing space and getting a shooter. Nets swap PGs for one that isn’t a problem internally & pick up asset(s) (picks/Yurt/etc or Herro).

Heat get two pieces that help the win-now movement and give more offence. Harris’ deal is hideous, but if he was paid half he’d be a steal and desirable. Next to Bam he’d be a pretty good fit.
We can then resign Dipo & Martin to round out the roster. Kyrie/Dipo/Jimmy/Harris/Bam plus Gabe/Strus/Martin/Jovic/Yurt on the bench.

I don't want any part of Harris' contract and I don't think he fits very good with Bam or Jimmy. Also think Robinson and PJ would improve that team quite a lot. They would compliment Harden/Maxey/Embiid's games very well. PJ/Robinson is great for Harden's/Maxey's drive and kicks and Embiid running DHO's with Robinson would be a great weapon for Embiid to dominate and Robinsons defensive deficiencies are covered up a lot with Embiid in the paint.

Don't want to have any part in helping Philly improve.

Harris is only 2/37 remaining. It’s ugly, but it’s not as hideous as Duncan’s deal. If you can excise Duncan and add Harris, I’d call that a big W.

[3ballbomber]

We've been linked to all of the big names this offseason. It's an exciting time of the year for us. We're all enjoying speculating, predicting & following the crazy rumours. Hopes are high & we're all smiling. It's all fun & games.......





.....until we get none of them, end up w/ Paul Milsap & our best news is UD announcing playing another season

[dean456]

Here’s one from left field for you all:

Heat: Lowry/PJ(S&T)/Robinson/Herro (or picks/Yurt/etc) for Kyrie/Harris

Nets: Kyrie for Lowry/Herro (or picks )

76ers: Harris for PJ (S&T)/Robinson

This gets 76ers the piece they want, while clearing space and getting a shooter. Nets swap PGs for one that isn’t a problem internally & pick up asset(s) (picks/Yurt/etc or Herro).

Heat get two pieces that help the win-now movement and give more offence. Harris’ deal is hideous, but if he was paid half he’d be a steal and desirable. Next to Bam he’d be a pretty good fit.
We can then resign Dipo & Martin to round out the roster. Kyrie/Dipo/Jimmy/Harris/Bam plus Gabe/Strus/Martin/Jovic/Yurt on the bench.

I don't want any part of Harris' contract and I don't think he fits very good with Bam or Jimmy. Also think Robinson and PJ would improve that team quite a lot. They would compliment Harden/Maxey/Embiid's games very well. PJ/Robinson is great for Harden's/Maxey's drive and kicks and Embiid running DHO's with Robinson would be a great weapon for Embiid to dominate and Robinsons defensive deficiencies are covered up a lot with Embiid in the paint.

Don't want to have any part in helping Philly improve.

Harris is only 2/37 remaining. It’s ugly, but it’s not as hideous as Duncan’s deal. If you can excise Duncan and add Harris, I’d call that a big W.

Think he is referring to Tobias Harris not Joe Harris in his trade proposal otherwise Philly sending nothing and getting Robinson and PJ. When he said Harris' deal was hideous I thought he was referring to Tobias Harris' 2yr 77mil guaranteed.

Would prefer to upgrade the PF spot another way if possible or just re-sign PJ.

[RexBoyWonder]

There are always two sides to a story.

Dipo's side and the Miami Heat's side

Until you hear both sides please, be slow to speak and quick to listen.

James 1:19 [Source]

Don’t let social media or people not involved create your truth.

Before Chris Paul forced his way out of OKC, he said this: "a lot people try to tell your truth or your story and say what you want, all this different type stuff." [Source]

Be smart!

Miami: Ninth Dumbest City in America [Source]

And until then keep your illusions to yourself.

Illusions of Dipo returning to the Heat

#Respectfully #ButUAlreadyKnowThis

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Wolf emoji

Minnesota Timberwolves

Make Rapaz a mod instead of Iggie

[Wiltside]

Gotta say, Rapaz has been outstanding lately. Was already a great poster, entering Bish territory at present. Rare air.

[RexBoyWonder]

Its a fair trade if the Nets dont want to max out Kyrie.

Tyler Herro is 6MOY and already averages over 20 ppg in his third year and the Nets aren't going to find a better point guard than Lowry that fits KD's timeline.

It's a bad trade for us.

Herro could have another leap in him and Kyrie isn't stable enough to be worth losing a starting (overpaid) PG + Herro's potential.


Keep Herro and Lowry and reassess once the Jazz look like crap at trade deadline.