Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend

[wadenation305]

It all really depends on who the other two players are. If they are good young players locked up Herro + 2 and 5 1st rounders still isn't something to turn your nose up on.

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Days is very intriguing. I wish there were more cutups highlighting his defense. How switchable is he really? Does he have the feet to consistently switch on the perimeter? If he can hone in on that, I think there's plenty to work with on all other fronts. As much as I despise Grant Williams, that is the comparison I can come up with for him. Solid frontcourt depth piece for playoff ball if he can fill that role.

Found a scouting report from MavsDraft.com
http://mavsdraft.com/darius-days-scouting-report/

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A member of the second team All-SEC, Darius Days has had a consistent, under the radar career at LSU, which is representative of who Days is. As a senior, Days averaged 13.7 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 1 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.3 BPG, and 1.3 TOPG on shooting splits of 43/35/70. Below is his full scouting report:
Name: Darius Days
Height/Weight: 6’7 / 245
Wingspan/ standing reach: 7’0 ½ / 8’11 ½
Hand size: 9
Position: Forward
Pre-draft team: LSU
Tools: Versatility, rebounding, shooting, motor.

Pros:

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Plus rebounder
Shooting upside; shot has gotten quicker
Versatile and can play any front-court position
Outstanding feel for the game
Strong finisher at the rim
High motor
Quick, active hands on defense

Cons:

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Needs to be more consistent as a shooter
Size may limit ability to guard centers
May struggle to defend guards on drives
Lacks blow-by ability as a ball-handler
Doesn’t have much of a mid range game
Below the rim finisher as a hybrid big
Needs to improve ball security and pass accuracy out of double teams
Efficiency leaves a lot to be desired.

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Darius Days projects to fill a role as a glue piece off the bench, helping to maximize his teammates on both ends. His ability to stretch the floor could help him play small-ball 5, and his versatility on defense to handle wings allows him to hold his own on the defensive end of the floor. While he lacks playmaking, slashing, and mid-range scoring, Days could grow into being an analytical darling as a finisher, shooter, and defender.

As a shooter, Days has a quick, high release that allows him to easily shoot over shot contests. He has made strides to be more consistent from 3 over the years, but still needs to get better at hitting consecutive 3s more often. His ability to stretch the floor will be a major factor in him getting minutes in the NBA.

Defensively, while Days lacks the ability to consistently defend guards, his length should allow him to comfortably handle wings and forwards. With a high motor, active hands, long arms, and good feel for the game, Days should check out as a positive defender, barring foul trouble on being overly aggressive at times. Days also does a good job of forcing turnovers and correctly playing passing lanes. This was an impressive area for him at the Portsmouth Invitational in April, forcing turnovers off of post-entry passes and with active hands on-ball.

Days also thrives around the rim, both as a finisher and a rebounder. Days was a putback savant as an upperclassman at LSU, being able to fight for rebounds and reach over defenders to then use his soft touch at the rim. Also on display at Portsmouth was his finishing in traffic and rebounding ability. Days should be able to score off of pick & rolls as a finisher and shooter.

Overall, Days projects to be a glue-guy that can defend, finish at the rim, and stretch the floor. Look for Days to get looks in undrafted free agency or the very late 2nd round.

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[Flash4thewin]

It all really depends on who the other two players are. If they are good young players locked up Herro + 2 and 5 1st rounders still isn't something to turn your nose up on.

It depends on what they think of Herro which doesn't look positive and the protections of the picks and who the picks are from. Say 4 are from the Heat unprotected, honestly thats not impressive. Say one or two picks are from another team, they will have protection so again not impressive at all.

For comparison, say a team like the Knicks offers 4 unprotected picks, that trumps our picks by a mile. So having picks means nothing, it's who the picks are from, and the level of protection.

[wadenation305]

It all really depends on who the other two players are. If they are good young players locked up Herro + 2 and 5 1st rounders still isn't something to turn your nose up on.

It depends on what they think of Herro which doesn't look positive and the protections of the picks and who the picks are from. Say 4 are from the Heat unprotected, honestly thats not impressive. Say one or two picks are from another team, they will have protection so again not impressive at all.

For comparison, say a team like the Knicks offers 4 unprotected picks, that trumps our picks by a mile. So having picks means nothing, it's who the picks are from, and the level of protection.

I hope my hope is, that the two we get are at best top 3 protected and from teams that are not known for being managed the best lol. Let's see, I've been from the camp of Millsap being the highest profile player we pick up, and it seems we can't even do that now, as currently constructed lol.

[insfo]

The offer in place, I don't have the team deals information breakout, what I know what's heading out, its Lowry heading to another team, Herro, Yurt & Duncan heading to another team I was told (pick up 1 RFP) with players heading back, Struss (pick up 1 RFP) heading to another team, 3 RFP's unlocking OKC.
Total RFP's out to Nets 5, with Herro and 2 other players headed to Brooklyn not from Miami.

Clarification.

Is Herro joining Yurt & Duncan in being sent to another (non-Brooklyn) team for 1 FRP? If so, then that last statement doesn't seem correct since that has him going to Brooklyn.

[Vertical Limit]

Pivot, go get Turner and Hield or something cheaper and without giving up Herro. Funny thing is that the nets will probably lose Brown for nothing after the following season. So, it will all be for nothing really. Brown is not going to stay for SImmons and Kyrie is out the door as soon as the season is over. At least if they had Herro, they could extend him and have him locked up long term.

Soon enough we are all going to see how difficult it will be to get a a real star player to move to a different team.

The NBA is rewarding superstars to stay put, theyre giving them huge bonuses if they reach any level of the all nba team, won dpoy or even reached an all star.

And Silver recently was talking about more incentives for star players to stay on their team.

Then whats left to spend on is handing out max contracts to fringe talents like Brunson, Herro, and Tobias Harris.

This is why the Heat are aggressive about Durant and Mitchell, they know and understand that the future of the cba and nba is not favorable for the Heat to continue to be a free agent ran franchise. And its not like we have average scouts, we actually have some of the best scouts.. but they rarely ever have the assets to do work in the first round. They got Herro and Bam. Maybe Jovic turns into something. but now we are talking about trading four more first round picks.. and not have any picks till 2029..

[AirP.]

I'd have to guess Dallas is probably the team wanting Lowry and has the pick and salaries to make it happen. With them adding Woods and McGee they have a bunch of 10-20 mil players they can move... Bertans, Powell, Kleber, THJ, Bullock and Dinwiddie(who Miami was interested in a year ago). They're not going to move their wing defender DFS.

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He must be a big Billy Idol fan.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Knew we could easily get a 1st for Strus. Send a 2nd to OKC to unlock another 1st and there’s 4 right there minimum.

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[twix2500]

Which is fine--conflating it by directing frustration at avenues that wouldn't have solved the issue seems nonsensical though. The same report that has people up in arms also suggested potentially utilizing more Bam and Yurt pairings. Shall we celebrate?

you mean playing Bam as a 4 ? would not work he doestn have a reliable jump shot. It might be nonsensical to you but posters can complain all they want either if you agree with it or not, you are voicing your opinion that signing PJ for the MLE would have been a mistake, which i agree. But it doesnt take from the fact we are still with a glaring big hole at the 4 and now it seems we will have to play freaking Caleb Martin as a power forward, we are just set to fail from the very start.

And I can point out emotional venting all I want.

Yurt would theoretically provide spacing in the Bam-Yurt scenario. I'm not ready to shut the door on him or that at this juncture.

Derrick Jones Jr
1st year - 15.1 mins, 14 gms
2nd year - 19 mins, 60 gms

Max Strus
1s year - 13 mins, 39 gms
2nd year - 23.3 mins, 68 gms

Duncan Robinson
1st year - 10.7 mins, 15 gms
2nd year - 29 mins, 73 gms

Omer Yurtseven
1st year - 12.6 mins, 56 gms
2nd year - ?

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[AEGBRG]

I think the biggest news of the day though since the Boston offer is being reported as "old news" is that Durant is not all-in on going to Miami or Phoenix. He clearly is open to going to Boston as well and who knows who else on top of that. Riley seems to have done all that he can (can't force Durant to come here and only here).

The only reason the Boston offer is being used for negotiation at this time is because it was green lit by Durant as of this morning, he probably was told about a week ago and has been mulling it over himself. They are probably telling him he isn't going anywhere based on current offers and he is getting antsy.

That could be strategy that the Nets are using -- drag things out where Durant gets more desperate to just get out of there and therefore open to going to more places that would offer more than Phoenix or Miami.

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With the trade I constructed it makes sense

We get J Brown

Yes the Celtics lose their DPOY but they get KD and Lowry who has worked himself back into tip top shape

Nets get a DPOY, 6MOY, filler with white and 4-6 FRPs

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Vincent/Garrett
Brown/Oladipo
Butler/Strus/Robinson
Martin/Jovic/Days/Haslem
Bam/Dedmon/O.Robinson

[Flash4thewin]

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Seeds have been planted

With the trade I constructed it makes sense

We get J Brown

Yes the Celtics lose their DPOY but they get KD and Lowry who has worked himself back into tip top shape

Nets get a DPOY, 6MOY, filler with white and 4-6 FRPs

It makes no sense for the Nets. Brown is in a cost controlled contract for 2 more years, then they have his bird rights so they can max him out without any problems. Brown has move value than just Herro and picks, remember Herro starting contract will most likely cost more than Browns current salary. It sucks for us but being honest, the Nets are better off with Brown as the center piece of the trade. The Nets need win now players first then the picks are secondary, they want both but win now players are the key since they dont have there picks. You go with the Boston deal 10 out of 10 times.

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Seeds have been planted

With the trade I constructed it makes sense

We get J Brown

Yes the Celtics lose their DPOY but they get KD and Lowry who has worked himself back into tip top shape

Nets get a DPOY, 6MOY, filler with white and 4-6 FRPs

It makes no sense for the Nets. Brown is in a cost controlled contract for 2 more years, then they have his bird rights so they can max him out without any problems. Brown has move value than just Herro and picks, remember Herro starting contract will most likely cost more than Browns current salary. It sucks for us but being honest, the Nets are better off with Brown as the center piece of the trade. The Nets need win now players first then the picks are secondary, they want both but win now players are the key since they dont have there picks. You go with the Boston deal 10 out of 10 times.

And if brown leaves in two years? Imagine going from a title contending team to the Brooklyn Nets who aren’t gonna be anything but maybe a play in team or a first round exit if he went there. Then they are stuck with nothing but maybe 1 or two first round picks from the Celtics which would be end of the lottery.

Now if they got Smart and Herro they can build on that, plus having multiple first round picks helps them in the long runs with trades or trying to draft to get young players with potential. Something you gotta think long term instead of in the moment.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The Bam/Mitchell/Tatum Brown or Fox big 3 will be fun times in 2026

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Nets are getting 3 picks at the very max in a brown deal, the can reroute brown to us and end up with an additional Herro and 3 picks on top of those if they play their cards right.

[Wiltside]

I like Jaylen Brown quite a bit. Would be happy to be involved in a 3 team deal to get him if the Nets preferred other assets. He’s clearly the best piece that has been offered though, if BKN wants him it’d be hard to beat - plus he fits well with Simmons.

[Flash4thewin]

It seems like people are fundamentally not understanding what the Nets want and why the want that. The Nets dont own their picks, thats why they want win now players first on top of picks. Priority is on the star player. Picks are nice and are part of the deal but are secondary, the foundation needs to be young win now players.