Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

[HeatIn5]

My picks if we stay at 18:

Carson Wallace
Jaime Jaquez Jr.
Jett Howard
Gradey Dick

Grady won't be there, Jett will be close - think he gets drafted higher than people think, Jaime may go end of 1st round, and Carson is a virtual lock for us to pick if you go with the "Riley's taking the best Kentucky Player Available" method


I reallllllllllly like this Marquette kid Prosper. Feel like he'd be a perfect 4 for our system. Essentially Highsmith on steroids.

[Kobewade11]

We made the Finals without Crowder, made the Finals without Tucker. Those guys are replaceable but nobody whines over spilled milk quite like Heat fans.

Definitely replaceable but we didn't replace them with anyone and that was the problem lol. It's not hard to understand.

We didnt replace Tucker with anybody and still somehow advanced further without him lol. I forget sometimes this is the same board that acted like Rodney freaking McGruder was a Draymond level impact player

[AirP.]

And you’ve been proven wrong time and time again. Yet, it’s the same nonsense. Keep moving the goalposts.

Name some since it's time and time again. Show me the goalpost that were moved too.

I’m sure you didn’t have the Heat finishing as the 1 seed in 2022 and I’m sure you didn’t have them in the Finals this year. Yet that’s where they went. Damn roster construction!!

And I already know your response “Yeah they made, the Finals, but they almost lost in the play in!”

Does that mean the roster Riley constructed didn’t make the Finals? Lol

Ugh... anomalies happen, it's how Toronto got a championship. I think you can separate luck and skill pretty easily although luck can carry you pretty far.

2022 I went low with 48 wins and 3rd. Also said Herro would score 18 a game but could score 20+ if he's looking to score off the bench. I'm also dubbed a Herro hater but figured that was in the cards based on his role. Roles mean so much for a player's stats.

Once again, this team lost 7 of it's last 9 playoff games, that kind of tells me this team isn't really close (well, not in a position for the fans to have real hope "running it back"), they just got hot and had some luck. Having Herro break his hand actually helped the defense and allowed other players to be put in scoring roles and did well.. when they were hot for a number of weeks but that didn't last forever.

[AirP.]

We made the Finals without Crowder, made the Finals without Tucker. Those guys are replaceable but nobody whines over spilled milk quite like Heat fans.

Definitely replaceable but we didn't replace them with anyone and that was the problem lol. It's not hard to understand.

We didnt replace Tucker with anybody and still somehow advanced further without him lol. I forget sometimes this is the same board that acted like Rodney freaking McGruder was a Draymond level impact player

Without Love this team wouldn't have went that far in the playoffs and he's not even that good of a player, he was just the right type of player. A marginal player at just a position of need helped this team greatly, it's why I still don't understand why the FO didn't do anything last summer or all the way up to the trade deadline. It was easy to see for most on this board.

[AirP.]

This can't make Ayton happy...

Now that's a bad contract!

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[Kobewade11]

Definitely replaceable but we didn't replace them with anyone and that was the problem lol. It's not hard to understand.

We didnt replace Tucker with anybody and still somehow advanced further without him lol. I forget sometimes this is the same board that acted like Rodney freaking McGruder was a Draymond level impact player

Without Love this team wouldn't have went that far in the playoffs and he's not even that good of a player, he was just the right type of player. A marginal player at just a position of need helped this team greatly, it's why I still don't understand why the FO didn't do anything last summer or all the way up to the trade deadline. It was easy to see for most on this board.

But they did have Love. The position just wasnt addressed with the players you wanted/when you wanted.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This board is honestly just becoming a circle jerk of repeating the Heat’s missteps while completely glossing over the good decisions. Bunch of whiny **** looking for attention.

I don’t think anyone needs to post on the board that we let Crowder and Tucker go lol

We all know that already right?

I also know after LeBron left this franchise wasn't building towards anything but D.Wade (after the FO refused to pay him) convinced Butler (his teammate in CHICAGO) the Heat's environment was a good fit for him, without that this franchise might just be a perennial play-in team since it won't tank.

It's like arguing the Chiago Bulls FO was good during the MJ years, he and Phil Jackson carried that franchise, they've done nothing since which was over 20 years ago.

Who drafted D wade? Oh that’s right.

Also, you are kind of out of your element here because there was much more to Wade leaving the Heat. The relationship between Riley and wade was never the same after wade sat there and watched Lebron leave without giving Riley a heads up.

To be fair Riley had to be convinced by my guy Randy Embry to draft Wade, Riley was going hard after Kaman

[DayofMourning]

When is the Bam for 23rd and Nurkic deal going to be announced?

Riley preached patience. Draft is 2 days away

I need Nurkic. Him dominating Jokic will be a sight to see.

[Heat3]

Jimmy hanging out in Brazil with some soccer players

https://www.instagram.com/flamengoen/

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Imagine legit trading away Bam to build around Herro though

Dude can’t gain separation without a Bam screen

[AirP.]

Player fan logic, if your team is good, it’s only because [insert player I nuthug] decided to play for you, and he’d win a ring every year if they could just surround him with better players.

The problem with that logic, it’s circular. Now if the Heat gets Dame you will inevitably see Dame fans start claiming the team only does well because of him, etc etc.

Alls I know is Riley showed up in 95, this franchise was arguably the weakest of the 4 it came into the league with (Magic, Hornets and Twolves) and now it’s talked about as much as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs. And the only constant is Riles.

Riley has been incredible for this franchise, but you can't convince me he's nearly as good for the franchise today as he was 10-15 years ago. If I remember right, younger Riley would be pissed for not winning a championship this year and 2020, not laughing about it during a press conference.

You weren’t microanalyzing his moves 10-15 years ago because you were busy rooting for Jimmy in Chicago, or whoever else you followed back then. A bunch on this board KILLED him for “wasting Wade’s prime” in 08/09, called getting LeBron let alone Bosh a pipe dream.

Microanalyzing? Nah, there's some pretty big wiffs I saw from afar. I had a nice little laugh when Riley gave Whiteside the max and I wasn't following this team at all, did the same thing when Waiters got a sizeable contract after watching him in person in OKC the year before he got to Miami. My god the amount of draft assests that were being offered so Boston could draft Winslow. Matching T.Johnson's contract? Oh, I'm aware of a lot of bad moves by this FO since LeBron screwed Miami and left while also having them draft Napier.

[AirP.]

We didnt replace Tucker with anybody and still somehow advanced further without him lol. I forget sometimes this is the same board that acted like Rodney freaking McGruder was a Draymond level impact player

Without Love this team wouldn't have went that far in the playoffs and he's not even that good of a player, he was just the right type of player. A marginal player at just a position of need helped this team greatly, it's why I still don't understand why the FO didn't do anything last summer or all the way up to the trade deadline. It was easy to see for most on this board.

But they did have Love. The position just wasnt addressed with the players you wanted/when you wanted.

I just wanted a legit 4, I'm not even a Crowder fan but I understood that it would have been easy for Miami to retain him. Some years he shoots great, some years not so much but having a rivalry with Butler was probably good for both of them to keep them playing at a high level.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Riley has been incredible for this franchise, but you can't convince me he's nearly as good for the franchise today as he was 10-15 years ago. If I remember right, younger Riley would be pissed for not winning a championship this year and 2020, not laughing about it during a press conference.

You weren’t microanalyzing his moves 10-15 years ago because you were busy rooting for Jimmy in Chicago, or whoever else you followed back then. A bunch on this board KILLED him for “wasting Wade’s prime” in 08/09, called getting LeBron let alone Bosh a pipe dream.

Microanalyzing? Nah, there's some pretty big wiffs I saw from afar. I had a nice little laugh when Riley gave Whiteside the max and I wasn't following this team at all, did the same thing when Waiters got a sizeable contract after watching him in person in OKC the year before he got to Miami. My god the amount of draft assests that were being offered so Boston could draft Winslow. Matching T.Johnson's contract? Oh, I'm aware of a lot of bad moves by this FO since LeBron screwed Miami and left while also having them draft Napier.

Back to the circle jerk….thank god for AirP or I wouldn’t have known about any of this.

[gom]

Jimmy hanging out in Brazil with some soccer players

https://www.instagram.com/flamengoen/

That's not "some soccer players." That's the team we cheer for in Rio.

[Heat3]

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Truth bomb bazooka yikes

If we don't have enough to get Dame then we don't have enough to get him. However the Portland "bros" need to get it through their thick heads that they aren't going to get Bam because unlike **** teams that value tanking for the lottery, the Heat try to win and would trade those picks away for proven guys if given the chance.

It's one thing if the team is garbage and rebuilding like it was in 2002/2003 and 2008. Not one coming off a Finals run. But these people live in a different world with a different mentality where tanking and being **** for 5 years is a smart move.

I'm pretty damn confident that the Heat with minor tweaks, no big names, will go much further next few years than anything the Portland can hope to accomplish for the remainder of Lillard's star years.

[AirP.]

Player fan logic, if your team is good, it’s only because [insert player I nuthug] decided to play for you, and he’d win a ring every year if they could just surround him with better players.

The problem with that logic, it’s circular. Now if the Heat gets Dame you will inevitably see Dame fans start claiming the team only does well because of him, etc etc.

Alls I know is Riley showed up in 95, this franchise was arguably the weakest of the 4 it came into the league with (Magic, Hornets and Twolves) and now it’s talked about as much as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs. And the only constant is Riles.

Riley has been incredible for this franchise, but you can't convince me he's nearly as good for the franchise today as he was 10-15 years ago. If I remember right, younger Riley would be pissed for not winning a championship this year and 2020, not laughing about it during a press conference.

The reality is that Riley is far less involved with the day-to-day than he was 10-15 years ago. I understand the frustration with being unable to win it all with Butler, but some times things just happen and it is what it is. Pointing fingers at this guy or the next is pointless.

For the current team, I just don't get the 2 timelines at the same time, it just means you're not maximizing the present nor are you maximizing building your team for the future. It's really hard to win a championship, you have to go all in to have a good shot at that and a little bit of luck.

[SoFlaKingReal]

We should just fire Riley….I’m sure the next guy in charge will do MUCH better!

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Truth bomb bazooka yikes

If we don't have enough to get Dame then we don't have enough to get him. However the Portland "bros" need to get it through their thick heads that they aren't going to get Bam because unlike **** teams that value tanking for the lottery, the Heat try to win and would trade those picks away for proven guys if given the chance.

It's one thing if the team is garbage and rebuilding like it was in 2002/2003 and 2008. Not one coming off a Finals run. But these people live in a different world with a different mentality where tanking and being **** for 5 years is a smart move.

I'm pretty damn confident that the Heat with minor tweaks, no big names, will go much further next few years than anything the Portland can hope to accomplish for the remainder of Lillard's star years.

Most of us think the idea of trading Bam to the Blazers is absurd but also understand Portland being fed up with the media and throwing it right back at us to change the narrative.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Draymond to Lakers is obvious to me, the way he was hugging on Lebron after the Warriors lost the series

then he opts out

[powerball1373]

Man, another poster that just can’t seem to get off my dick

Does that make me and Bam eskimo brothers? Or is it more like an elephant walk? Also, this is glorious - the 3hammbl3s already starting before anything even happens.

How’s it taste?

Tastes like 3hammbl3s! Happy 6.20!