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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#181 » by batterybro42 » Mon May 19, 2025 9:34 pm

If the 76ers want to get off the PG13 contract so bad I wouldn’t mind seeing if they want to give up that #3 pick

Ship out Wiggins and Rozier
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Post#182 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 19, 2025 10:19 pm

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Post#183 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 19, 2025 10:25 pm

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Can’t lie, Holiday somewhat scares me but I love the look of this. That’s a lot of added offense and defense that can knockdown the 3 at a high rate.

A lot of championship experience too and O’Neale is the exact type of role player Spo loves and gets the most out of.

Fuxk it, I’m down send it in. In a wide open east that team is more than enough to get it done.
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Post#184 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 19, 2025 10:27 pm

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Been saying this. If we get KD we’re not done there
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#185 » by Vertical Limit » Mon May 19, 2025 10:48 pm

batterybro42 wrote:If the 76ers want to get off the PG13 contract so bad I wouldn’t mind seeing if they want to give up that #3 pick

Ship out Wiggins and Rozier

Hes got 3 years 165 million remaining, It would cost them more than just the third pick.

Theyll have to attach at least 2 future firsts unprotected for me to even flirt with that idea.

Taking on Paul George, who is rarely available, and he does not look motivated at all to get back to form, will handicap what we can do with our roster for the next 2 offseasons. There is no growth or future to take him on.

So third pick, and two future unprotected firsts, is more than fair.
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Post#186 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon May 19, 2025 11:53 pm

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Post#187 » by Beenie » Mon May 19, 2025 11:57 pm

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Post#188 » by Lennyzinho » Tue May 20, 2025 12:07 am

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Been saying this. If we get KD we’re not done there


I don't hate this team and I thought about jrue next to herro but I'm not giving up a FRP for Jrue. I dont think people realize how hard teams will be trying to shed salary this off-season and how few teams have cap space to absorb any of it or are willing to pay tax.

2026-2027 will be interesting but THIS off-season? Things are gonna be rough. Would absolutely suck to be a free agent. One of the few reasons im hopeful we can get Davion at like 3-27M with third year player option.

If we can keep Davion and get Jrue for a SRP and duncan or rozier and send our 20 overall and JJJ Wiggins Duncan for Durant. Im in. Otherwise no thanks. Not trading jovic and all our frps to get jrue at 3-104M (35 in two weeks) and Durant making 55M at 37. Not mortgaging our future and young players for a 2 year window that will slam shut hard.

Herro extension will kick in. Durant will be 39 making God knows what. Jrue 37 making 37M. We will be in cap hell with no frps in 29 and 31 when we will very likely be very bad.
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Post#189 » by Beenie » Tue May 20, 2025 12:15 am

Vertical Limit wrote:If we end up having to replace Quinn, Juwan is a no thanks. We already have a Juwan Howard type of coach on the staff in Caron Butler. We need a more technically sound guy that can challenge spo’s thinking in defensive and offensive sets. Juwan was nothing more than a cheerleader for us during games, he was more of a hands on coach in practice.

I honestly thought he got too much credit in Michigan. And he stuck around longer because Michigan didnt want to lose his two sons who were highly recruited


If they go outward, I'd like to see them recruit Earl Watson who I think was given a poor rap by Phoenix.

Seems sharp and has the disposition to command the respect of the team and I can envision him one day replacing Spo if/when Spo moves into a full time FO position.
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Post#190 » by dshearn » Tue May 20, 2025 12:52 am

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Can’t lie, Holiday somewhat scares me but I love the look of this. That’s a lot of added offense and defense that can knockdown the 3 at a high rate.

A lot of championship experience too and O’Neale is the exact type of role player Spo loves and gets the most out of.

Fuxk it, I’m down send it in. In a wide open east that team is more than enough to get it done.



Look at the size of the skull on that dude on the right….

You could probably count a good amount of rim defense just with the surface area of his face ….
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#191 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue May 20, 2025 1:43 am

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Can’t lie, Holiday somewhat scares me but I love the look of this. That’s a lot of added offense and defense that can knockdown the 3 at a high rate.

A lot of championship experience too and O’Neale is the exact type of role player Spo loves and gets the most out of.

Fuxk it, I’m down send it in. In a wide open east that team is more than enough to get it done.


Sub Holiday for Pordingus and you got a deal.
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Post#192 » by CWebb2491 » Tue May 20, 2025 1:55 am

I’m seeing Denver fans wanting to get rid of Jamal Murray….

I wonder if Wiggins and a first would get it done. Would take a HARD look at it if we’re able to land Durant for a package of Duncan, Rozier, Jaquez and a 1st or 2.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#193 » by Slot Machine » Tue May 20, 2025 2:00 am

That Jrue contract is awful. I wouldn’t touch it unless we’re getting compensated to.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#194 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue May 20, 2025 2:06 am

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Can’t lie, Holiday somewhat scares me but I love the look of this. That’s a lot of added offense and defense that can knockdown the 3 at a high rate.

A lot of championship experience too and O’Neale is the exact type of role player Spo loves and gets the most out of.

Fuxk it, I’m down send it in. In a wide open east that team is more than enough to get it done.


Sub Holiday for Pordingus and you got a deal.

No thought about the tax or the cap in this deal. Just fandom fodder. This guy Anthony is just joe schmo fan no different then any of you guys coming up with a trade idea.

Durant and Holiday’s contract along with Bam’s increase and Herro’s extension would leave us well over the tax and a bunch of random minimum player’s. This is fantasy trade stuff. You toss in Duncan and you lose all cap flexibility to sign anyone unless you really expect Micky for the first time in franchise history to venture into repeater tax.

Repeater tax is basically giving away free money. If we go 8 million over the tax line and stay in repeater and first apron that’a like 24 million for a bunch of random minimum type players. Not even during the big 3 era was this even a thought.

There’s two sides to this NBA stuff but many forget to venture in the real business side of things. Anyone can use a trade checker and make a deal happen but does it really make sense when all things factored? Most likely not.

If we end up trading for Durant we are not adding another big salary but yet using what could be potentially 20 million if Duncan is not included in trade to build out the roster with proper depth. Keep in mind 8.9 million of that is probably already ear marked to Mitchell. Maybe another smaller trade is made but most likely for a salary that’s flexible. Not a Holliday type contract.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#195 » by batterybro42 » Tue May 20, 2025 2:58 am

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batterybro42 wrote:If the 76ers want to get off the PG13 contract so bad I wouldn’t mind seeing if they want to give up that #3 pick

Ship out Wiggins and Rozier

Hes got 3 years 165 million remaining, It would cost them more than just the third pick.

Theyll have to attach at least 2 future firsts unprotected for me to even flirt with that idea.

Taking on Paul George, who is rarely available, and he does not look motivated at all to get back to form, will handicap what we can do with our roster for the next 2 offseasons. There is no growth or future to take him on.

So third pick, and two future unprotected firsts, is more than fair.


I mainly agree but I also think PG is 34 and is a year removed from playing 74 games

I could be talked into it for #3 in the draft this year, if you could get another Philly unprotected 2028 or later I think it would be smart to consider if other moves can't be made. It's a low key reset type move and youth transition. 50+ million dollar deals turn into 50+ million dollar expiring contracts.

2028 is another realistic pivot with 27 being also an opportunity to offload a massive expiring in exchange for a disgruntled star. I think those big contracts for older players will become more valuable as time goes on as they enter the last year of their deals for cap relief, because teams won't have a way of getting out of apron without them. I think a move like that makes the Heat better, while also bolstering the war chest for moves to made at a later date down the road.

Miami could even look to trade down and grab somebody like Fears, and accumulate even more assets.

I am not saying PG is the answer for this team or anything like that, but if it looks like we are stuck in the mud I would not mind taking on his contract if it allows the team to get it hands on more draft capital, and a young player they can develop now.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#196 » by Vertical Limit » Tue May 20, 2025 3:24 am

Slot Machine wrote:That Jrue contract is awful. I wouldn’t touch it unless we’re getting compensated to.

Im not helping Boston out at all, period.

They can keep all their contracts and rot in the second apron whilst tatum is out for season and brown needs a meniscus repair. **** the celtics.

Also, we have Jrue lite on the the team that would cost us the qualifying offer.. why would we want a player that would cost us 23 million more per season. Yes, jrue is the better player but his effectiveness is not worth 23 million more on our salary cap.

Davion is more than capable of being that 3 and D guy and he has shown he is more athletic. Just got to work out a few things, hes just 26 years old and was a lottery pick.. an offseason of him understanding the offense and knowing where to be and making the right passes, he is going to be alright.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#197 » by VaDe255 » Tue May 20, 2025 7:17 am

It's either KD or Jrue but not both. You need cap flexibility and with these two and Bam/Herro there is none.

If they trade for KD, I like to see Wiggins/Terry/Anderson/Jaquez get moved.
It should be Wiggins/Terry for KD in some way, maybe a 3rd team to dump Terry/Jaquez/Anderson in the process.

Then they waive Duncan + resign Davion and their starting five looks solid:

Ware/Bam/KD/Herro/Davion

They'll have ~10m-20m of wiggle room under the tax and can still make more moves, depending on how exactly the KD trade looks like. It would be roughly 5m per remaining roster slot. They also have the 2m option to pick up on Keshad.

This is overall much better than trying to squeeze in Jrue and have no flexibility and being an apron team.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#198 » by Kobewade11 » Tue May 20, 2025 10:44 am

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Cynicism aside, can anyone explain why there would be interest in Derozan? If Jimmy’s a clear tier below KD, which he is, Derozan is a tier below Jimmy. Not sure why Barry is pumping that name and yes there was interest in the past but with a different iteration of this team.
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Post#199 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue May 20, 2025 10:54 am

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#200 » by Kobewade11 » Tue May 20, 2025 10:56 am

CWebb2491 wrote:I’m seeing Denver fans wanting to get rid of Jamal Murray….

I wonder if Wiggins and a first would get it done. Would take a HARD look at it if we’re able to land Durant for a package of Duncan, Rozier, Jaquez and a 1st or 2.


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Virtually impossible. KD, Bam, Murray all have 50+ million extensions kicking in, probably close to 60 for KD. Add Herro’s 30+ for 26-27 season and we have the second highest payroll with just 4 guys. We wouldnt field a team.

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