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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3 

Post#1801 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:32 pm

oreon wrote:
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LeBron absolutely did


Wade and LeBron went to an even further level with Spo than a little yelling lol. Wade pushed him


And Wade kinda got banished from the kingdom. Heat org is a tight circle. Its the Arisons, Riley, ZO, UD, Andy and Spo in that circle then everyone else. Thats why I find it laughable that people think Spo will get fired. He's pretty tight with that group. The only way he gets fired is he has a falling out with Riley or the Arisons.
I think the Butler thing will pass. I won't be a big deal in the long rum. But Butler has to be careful, Heat FO will choose Spo over him if it comes down to it.


Like 4-5 years later that Riley still regrets to this day?

Wade made us relevant regardless of who was in what circle, let’s just be real.
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Post#1803 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:38 pm

oreon wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
LeBron absolutely did


Wade and LeBron went to an even further level with Spo than a little yelling lol. Wade pushed him


And Wade kinda got banished from the kingdom. Heat org is a tight circle. Its the Arisons, Riley, ZO, UD, Andy and Spo in that circle then everyone else. Thats why I find it laughable that people think Spo will get fired. He's pretty tight with that group. The only way he gets fired is he has a falling out with Riley or the Arisons.
I think the Butler thing will pass. I won't be a big deal in the long rum. But Butler has to be careful, Heat FO will choose Spo over him if it comes down to it.


Wade switched to team LeBron. He has to live with that. He's fine. He can hang with the Mormons.
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Post#1804 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:49 pm

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al bondiga wrote:The last couple of games and weeks have been an awful display of Miami Heat basketball...Plus we know that although we are number one, come playoff time we are probably doomed... these facts make everyone crazy, including fans... the players, spo or Riley do not have the magic wand, spo tried something, he did it quite possibly, to compete with the top three or four teams In THE NBA

It's not working and it probably won't, especially given the players we have on the team

We can small ball-it 50% of the time and compete great, we don't have the small balls necessary to do it 95% of the time...lol


I am very curious what metrics Spo sees that makes him think small ball is a system and not just a tactic. I thought the destruction the Bucks brought last playoffs would be the end of the small ball era, but Spo is committed.

At this point, I am not sure if anything is going to change Spo’s programming either. It seems like he is looking at the benefits of small ball through a game by game lense, as opposed to the overall impact small ball has on the team. Increased fatigue, injuries, and ultimately end of season losses are inevitable with the system. Shame on either the analytics people for not showing that, or Spo for not listening.


Bingo. It's like the guy has learned nothing. A brick wall.
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Post#1805 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:53 pm

marson wrote:Props to our guy UD for standing up, apparently some from Reddit thread got this with the highest upvote.

"Ok so hijacking this comment. It appears Jimmy told Spo "Don't threaten me like I'm a bitch." and Spo said "You think I'm gonna **** fight you?" while Haslem was saying "Show them! Show them! (talking about the Warriors) We're not you're mother **** enemy. We not your enemy!" then Jimmy stood up and looked like he starred Haslem down (maybe said "**** you" at this point?) and he was just checking him at that point"

If this is true, then JB is a b*tch. Spo may have called him out for being passive this past few games.

Trade his *ss somewhere if continues to be cancer. Even a prime LeBron and Dwade didn't go down to this level with Spo. Shooting the ball lethargically ain't gonna help either.


This is saucy.

If this is the case it's really just dumb escalation. They should just have a meeting and talk it out. If Jimmy is tuning out Spo then that's a bigger issue.
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Post#1806 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:56 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
oreon wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Wade and LeBron went to an even further level with Spo than a little yelling lol. Wade pushed him


And Wade kinda got banished from the kingdom. Heat org is a tight circle. Its the Arisons, Riley, ZO, UD, Andy and Spo in that circle then everyone else. Thats why I find it laughable that people think Spo will get fired. He's pretty tight with that group. The only way he gets fired is he has a falling out with Riley or the Arisons.
I think the Butler thing will pass. I won't be a big deal in the long rum. But Butler has to be careful, Heat FO will choose Spo over him if it comes down to it.


Like 4-5 years later that Riley still regrets to this day?

Wade made us relevant regardless of who was in what circle, let’s just be real.


Wade's a champion but LeBron made him disloyal to Riley and broke the harmony. Wade became a different guy late in his career. He sacrificed and won more titles but his love affair with lebrons agenda left a scorched Earth behind.
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Post#1807 » by carnageta » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:19 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
oreon wrote:
And Wade kinda got banished from the kingdom. Heat org is a tight circle. Its the Arisons, Riley, ZO, UD, Andy and Spo in that circle then everyone else. Thats why I find it laughable that people think Spo will get fired. He's pretty tight with that group. The only way he gets fired is he has a falling out with Riley or the Arisons.
I think the Butler thing will pass. I won't be a big deal in the long rum. But Butler has to be careful, Heat FO will choose Spo over him if it comes down to it.


Like 4-5 years later that Riley still regrets to this day?

Wade made us relevant regardless of who was in what circle, let’s just be real.


Wade's a champion but LeBron made him disloyal to Riley and broke the harmony. Wade became a different guy late in his career. He sacrificed and won more titles but his love affair with lebrons agenda left a scorched Earth behind.



Agreed. Wade just was never the same after that 2011 finals loss.
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Post#1808 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:25 pm

I really would like to know what was being said by Butler and Spoelstra up to the point where it seems Spoelstra says I'm going to ***** fight you?

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Post#1809 » by SA37 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:28 pm

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Fire Spo.

Cut Haslem.

Trade Butler.
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Post#1810 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:31 pm

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Post#1811 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:35 pm

SA37 wrote:
Fire Spo.

Cut Haslem.

Trade Butler.


On trading Butler, I wonder how much Tobias will help Miami.
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Post#1812 » by oreon » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:53 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
oreon wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Wade and LeBron went to an even further level with Spo than a little yelling lol. Wade pushed him


And Wade kinda got banished from the kingdom. Heat org is a tight circle. Its the Arisons, Riley, ZO, UD, Andy and Spo in that circle then everyone else. Thats why I find it laughable that people think Spo will get fired. He's pretty tight with that group. The only way he gets fired is he has a falling out with Riley or the Arisons.
I think the Butler thing will pass. I won't be a big deal in the long rum. But Butler has to be careful, Heat FO will choose Spo over him if it comes down to it.


Like 4-5 years later that Riley still regrets to this day?

Wade made us relevant regardless of who was in what circle, let’s just be real.


I don't think he regrets. It was the right decision. The wrong decision was not bottoming out and going for a rebuild after Wade left. The Heat have become great at drafting and developing players. But they don't like full rebuilds and neither do the fans. But a proper rebuild is the best way to get a top 10 franchise kind of player. Otherwise we kinda where we are, where we have really good players but not a top 5 MVP level player. The last 2 top 5 players we got was because of the draft. Drafted Wade and Bron came because of Wade. Not saying the Heat approach is wrong. We are in playoffs most of the time but they we do its kinda hard to build a true perennial contender because you don't have that elite elite guy
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Post#1813 » by oreon » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:02 pm

harlem_ball wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
oreon wrote:
And Wade kinda got banished from the kingdom. Heat org is a tight circle. Its the Arisons, Riley, ZO, UD, Andy and Spo in that circle then everyone else. Thats why I find it laughable that people think Spo will get fired. He's pretty tight with that group. The only way he gets fired is he has a falling out with Riley or the Arisons.
I think the Butler thing will pass. I won't be a big deal in the long rum. But Butler has to be careful, Heat FO will choose Spo over him if it comes down to it.


Like 4-5 years later that Riley still regrets to this day?

Wade made us relevant regardless of who was in what circle, let’s just be real.


Wade's a champion but LeBron made him disloyal to Riley and broke the harmony. Wade became a different guy late in his career. He sacrificed and won more titles but his love affair with lebrons agenda left a scorched Earth behind.


The whole thing about Wade had nothing to do with Bron. Wade wanted to get paid that 3rd year for the sacrifices. Heat really didn't want to do it. It's all family and loyalty till money becomes an issue. But the FO had a responsibility to make best decision for the team long term. And I Wade has a right to ask for what he thinks he's owed. No one was wrong there. They just had different interests that couldn't be bridged.
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Post#1814 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:06 pm

oreon wrote:
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Like 4-5 years later that Riley still regrets to this day?

Wade made us relevant regardless of who was in what circle, let’s just be real.


Wade's a champion but LeBron made him disloyal to Riley and broke the harmony. Wade became a different guy late in his career. He sacrificed and won more titles but his love affair with lebrons agenda left a scorched Earth behind.


The whole thing about Wade had nothing to do with Bron. Wade wanted to get paid that 3rd year for the sacrifices. Heat really didn't want to do it. It's all family and loyalty till money becomes an issue. But the FO had a responsibility to make best decision for the team long term. And I Wade has a right to ask for what he thinks he's owed. No one was wrong there. They just had different interests that couldn't be bridged.


Wade sacrificed to bring LeBron in. That was Wade's decision. Then he wanted to be rewarded for it to the detriment of the franchise. You can't have it both ways, titles then payday. That was the problem. Wade was toast. The Heat would have been terrible. I guess they could have tanked again and maybe drafted a guy like Giannis or whoever but the Heat had Bosh and had a chance to compete.
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Post#1815 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:08 pm

Wade was upset we prioritized that bum Whiteside over him to be fair.
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Post#1816 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:13 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Wade was upset we prioritized that bum Whiteside over him to be fair.


That was tricky. Whiteside looked like a franchise player. Wade looked like current Carmelo Anthony. What would you do? Lol
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Post#1817 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:27 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Wade was upset we prioritized that bum Whiteside over him to be fair.


That was tricky. Whiteside looked like a franchise player. Wade looked like current Carmelo Anthony. What would you do? Lol


Wade was just coming off a very impressive playoff run where he led all players in offensive and defensive production in the clutch through the first 2 rounds lol. Had Bosh and Whiteside not been out with injury we might’ve been able to do something that year
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Post#1818 » by Tony15 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:29 pm

Chris Bosh is 38 years old.....his game would've aged soooo well here.
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Post#1820 » by harlem_ball » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:36 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Wade was upset we prioritized that bum Whiteside over him to be fair.


That was tricky. Whiteside looked like a franchise player. Wade looked like current Carmelo Anthony. What would you do? Lol


Wade was just coming off a very impressive playoff run where he led all players in offensive and defensive production in the clutch through the first 2 rounds lol. Had Bosh and Whiteside not been out with injury we might’ve been able to do something that year


Yea but Wade was a part-time player and missing a lot of time. Ideally, Whiteside shouldn't have been overpaid and Wade underbid but the market forces prevailed as usual.

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