Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend

[3ballbomber]

Bk now trying to gain control of the situation by preambling & giving impression of limited option to just 1 of staying & running it back. Making it as though there is no alternative due to insufficient offers. After reports stating BK wld honour Kd’s decision & staying in conversations w/ teams etc.

It’s a smart business move to set these limitations mentally & promote team over self. It’s cute. Who are we kidding here though, it’s players league since LeQuit brought his talents to South Beach & forming super-teams all over the NBA landscapes w/ players & organisations following the blueprint.....

In spite of all the Kyrie drama, coaching changes, injuries, trades etc. KD has represented himself well & been loyal to the Nets. It was nvr stable for him there esp w/ all the Kyrie drama - who’s to say the issues won’t continue. Owners must consider this. Furthermore Nets consider he’ll be 34 w/ limited window. KD wants to prove he can win a title w/out Curry & mend his legacy in a way. Time isn’t on his hands. His heart is no longer in BK.

I don’t think KD will storm into the meeting stomping his feet to the beat of Miami. He’ll state his case & see if the owners will empathise. Not sure his actions after their decision but ultimately KD has as good argument as any player before him who’s wanted to move on in this new era nba. At least he was honest & transparent about his decisions.

Ownership should remind KD that he's the one who brought Kyrie to Brooklyn, so he can eat all the drama and distractions.

He couldn’t possibly predict the Covid circus that ensued. He did right by the organisation by helping to land an all-star to help in their surge for a title. That’s like criticising Butler for bringing in Lowry who ended up being injured & out of shape in the PO’s

[IggieCC]

If KD sits out to force a trade rest assured like the Flash stated it will be a black eye to the NBA. Forget the media. Owners will rally and go scorched earth next collective bargaining agreement. They are tired of giving these players long term financial security then making fools out of them by asking out. The league will have to step in. Adam Silver was none to pleased about the Durant request either. See for yourself

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/.amp/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-was-asked-about-kevin-durant-reported-trade-request-brooklyn-nets

this is why I (you, bish and many others) thought this was never going to happen.

a 34 yo mega super star who has 4 year left on the contract dictating where he wants to go without depleting the trade destination so that he could easily win? i mean how stupid would not only the Nets but the league look if they let this happen? officially contracts mean **** but now they can be used against owners? homerism aside have some sense yall

[HeatFanLifer]

If KD sits out to force a trade rest assured like the Flash stated it will be a black eye to the NBA. Forget the media. Owners will rally and go scorched earth next collective bargaining agreement. They are tired of giving these players long term financial security then making fools out of them by asking out. The league will have to step in. Adam Silver was none to pleased about the Durant request either. See for yourself

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/.amp/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-was-asked-about-kevin-durant-reported-trade-request-brooklyn-nets

this is why I (you, bish and many others) thought this was never going to happen.

a 34 yo mega super star who has 4 year left on the contract dictating where he wants to go without depleting the trade destination so that he could easily win? i mean how stupid would not only the Nets but the league look if they let this happen? officially contracts mean **** but now they can be used against owners? homerism aside have some sense yall

I wish this article had a little more substance instead of just citing some tweets and what not. Nevertheless the point needed to be made about players pushing for trades. I’m hoping team owners push to make contracts non-guaranteed. This Simmons situation is a $250+ mil deal of nonsense. Give that money back to the fans and help pay off some public bonds cities used to pay for arenas.

[3ballbomber]

If KD sits out to force a trade rest assured like the Flash stated it will be a black eye to the NBA. Forget the media. Owners will rally and go scorched earth next collective bargaining agreement. They are tired of giving these players long term financial security then making fools out of them by asking out. The league will have to step in. Adam Silver was none to pleased about the Durant request either. See for yourself

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/.amp/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-was-asked-about-kevin-durant-reported-trade-request-brooklyn-nets

this is why I (you, bish and many others) thought this was never going to happen.

a 34 yo mega super star who has 4 year left on the contract dictating where he wants to go without depleting the trade destination so that he could easily win? i mean how stupid would not only the Nets but the league look if they let this happen? officially contracts mean **** but now they can be used against owners? homerism aside have some sense yall

when ICC was dropping juicy saucy nuggets early when our perceived chances seemed hopeful most were entertaining it. Seems like some are riding the ebbs & flows of what ever updates entails. But we’re crazy now that reports may be indicating our chances are low?

We were hopeful but knew there wld be difficulty in such lofty endeavours while lacking assets. But we put our faith in Riles savvy, our players relationships & pull & see if a miracle happens for us. We stayed patient because that’s what it takes to land a player that will help us be relevant & part of sports media narratives, which we lacked last season.

If we’re crazy then entire Heat Organisation is crazy.

[IggieCC]

If KD sits out to force a trade rest assured like the Flash stated it will be a black eye to the NBA. Forget the media. Owners will rally and go scorched earth next collective bargaining agreement. They are tired of giving these players long term financial security then making fools out of them by asking out. The league will have to step in. Adam Silver was none to pleased about the Durant request either. See for yourself

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/.amp/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-was-asked-about-kevin-durant-reported-trade-request-brooklyn-nets

this is why I (you, bish and many others) thought this was never going to happen.

a 34 yo mega super star who has 4 year left on the contract dictating where he wants to go without depleting the trade destination so that he could easily win? i mean how stupid would not only the Nets but the league look if they let this happen? officially contracts mean **** but now they can be used against owners? homerism aside have some sense yall

when ICC was dropping juicy saucy nuggets early when our perceived chances seemed hopeful most were entertaining it. Seems like some are riding the ebbs & flows of what ever updates entails. But we’re crazy now that reports may be indicating our chances are low?

We were hopeful but knew there wld be difficulty in such lofty endeavours while lacking assets. But we put our faith in Riles savvy, our players relationships & pull & see if a miracle happens for us. We stayed patient because that’s what it takes to land a player that will help us be relevant & part of sports media narratives, which we lacked last season.

If we’re crazy then entire Heat Organisation is crazy.

i'm perfectly fine with FO going for it since we're two of his prefered destinations and our counterpart seemed to have dropped out.

it's just not very realistic with the way KD wants it and I don't think he has as much leverage as some claim that he has. his age, injury history, length of the remaining contract, not great bob. for him to be sitting out a year (that's what AD basically did at 28?) becoming 35 yo with like 40 some regular szn games will have played in last 4 seasons will be wild. who's touching that idk

[MettaWorldPanda]

this is why I (you, bish and many others) thought this was never going to happen.

a 34 yo mega super star who has 4 year left on the contract dictating where he wants to go without depleting the trade destination so that he could easily win? i mean how stupid would not only the Nets but the league look if they let this happen? officially contracts mean **** but now they can be used against owners? homerism aside have some sense yall

when ICC was dropping juicy saucy nuggets early when our perceived chances seemed hopeful most were entertaining it. Seems like some are riding the ebbs & flows of what ever updates entails. But we’re crazy now that reports may be indicating our chances are low?

We were hopeful but knew there wld be difficulty in such lofty endeavours while lacking assets. But we put our faith in Riles savvy, our players relationships & pull & see if a miracle happens for us. We stayed patient because that’s what it takes to land a player that will help us be relevant & part of sports media narratives, which we lacked last season.

If we’re crazy then entire Heat Organisation is crazy.

i'm perfectly fine with FO going for it since we're two of his prefered destinations and our counterpart seemed to have dropped out.

it's just not very realistic with the way KD wants it and I don't think he has as much leverage as some claim that he has. his age, injury history, length of the remaining contract, not great bob. for him to be sitting out a year (that's what AD basically did at 28?) becoming 35 yo with like 40 some regular szn games will have played in last 4 seasons will be wild. who's touching that idk

Somebody gave Durant some terrible advice. Maybe it was Harden who knows but the way he’s played this has opened the door for the BK front office to garner sympathy. They paid Durant to recover from his injury for a whole year.

They gave him financial security by extending his deal at the max they could for 4 more years. They have a solid roster built around him and they gave a 1st round pick before free agency opened to get a player who would fit along side him and take care of the dirty work in Royce O’Neale.

Having Woj announce your trade request right at the open of free agency plays out like some real soap opera non sense. Durant to the Heat for the offer of Lowry, Herro, and Robinson comes off as a complete joke even if we are able to muster up some way of getting 5 picks. Which the sound of it seems absolutely absurd.

Tops we could offer are 3 unprotected and that’s with having to climb the hoop of getting OKC to lift protections on 2025. The other two picks you know damn well would be late late protected with Strus being thrown around.

Honestly when discussing and coming up with all these scenarios seems like utter pipe dream chit on our behalf. It always has since day one tbh. The only rumored trade that has made any semblance of sense has been Jaylen Brown for Durant.

[3ballbomber]

when ICC was dropping juicy saucy nuggets early when our perceived chances seemed hopeful most were entertaining it. Seems like some are riding the ebbs & flows of what ever updates entails. But we’re crazy now that reports may be indicating our chances are low?

We were hopeful but knew there wld be difficulty in such lofty endeavours while lacking assets. But we put our faith in Riles savvy, our players relationships & pull & see if a miracle happens for us. We stayed patient because that’s what it takes to land a player that will help us be relevant & part of sports media narratives, which we lacked last season.

If we’re crazy then entire Heat Organisation is crazy.

i'm perfectly fine with FO going for it since we're two of his prefered destinations and our counterpart seemed to have dropped out.

it's just not very realistic with the way KD wants it and I don't think he has as much leverage as some claim that he has. his age, injury history, length of the remaining contract, not great bob. for him to be sitting out a year (that's what AD basically did at 28?) becoming 35 yo with like 40 some regular szn games will have played in last 4 seasons will be wild. who's touching that idk

Somebody gave Durant some terrible advice. Maybe it was Harden who knows but the way he’s played this has opened the door for the BK front office to garner sympathy. They paid Durant to recover from his injury for a whole year.

They gave him financial security by extending his deal at the max they could for 4 more years. They have a solid roster built around him and they gave a 1st round pick before free agency opened to get a player who would fit along side him and take care of the dirty work in Royce O’Neale.

Having Woj announce your trade request right at the open of free agency plays out like some real soap opera non sense. Durant to the Heat for the offer of Lowry, Herro, and Robinson comes off as a complete joke even if we are able to muster up some way of getting 5 picks. Which the sound of it seems absolutely absurd.

Tops we could offer are 3 unprotected and that’s with having to climb the hoop of getting OKC to lift protections on 2025. The other two picks you know damn well would be late late protected with Strus being thrown around.

Honestly when discussing and coming up with all these scenarios seems like utter pipe dream chit on our behalf. It always has since day one tbh. The only rumored trade that has made any semblance of sense has been Jaylen Brown for Durant.

Yet we're still in conversations. If our offer was indeed non-sensicle they scoff, point & laugh at it they'd have told us to go away weeks ago. Especially w/ the knowledge Bam has been off the table for some time. But for a while reports had us, internally, having a good shot. We also don't have precise, exact knowledge of our package. Seems to be ok (obviously not the best) if we still in discussions.

This thing won't be over until after outcome of this meeting & Nets make their decision. Until then we're still very much in the hunt.

[Jfh20]

i dont know why heat fans bringing adam silver into this... Adam silver has always had a bone to pick with KD... remember when KD signed up with the warriors? guess who came out and said " ya, thats not good for the league blah blah" and here we are again, KD wants a trade request like most superstars want nowadays when they cant win with current team or unhappy with something within the organization..... and here we go again with silver and his " im not happy with KDs request blah blah"... seriously, screw adam silver. hes a crap commish anyways. KD has every right to want out of that horror show up in brkn.

[Timantha]

This all started with Paul George not Harden imo. He signed a 4-5 year max with OKC and then asked for a trade to the Clips after one year

[AirP.]

This all started with Paul George not Harden imo. He signed a 4-5 year max with OKC and then asked for a trade to the Clips after one year

I'd be willing to bet OKC gave him a verbal agreement to try to move him where he wanted to go if he resigned with them(it helps out both parties, OKC gets to resign him and he gets to go where he wants to go), they basically did the same thing for CP3 although they got him through a trade.

[3ballbomber]

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Hopefully streak isn't in his underwear & is on the offensive end

[Timantha]

This all started with Paul George not Harden imo. He signed a 4-5 year max with OKC and then asked for a trade to the Clips after one year

I'd be willing to bet OKC gave him a verbal agreement to try to move him where he wanted to go(it helps out both parties, OKC gets to resign him and he gets to go where he wants to go), they basically did the same thing for CP3.

I don't think it was their first choice. They probably wanted to be competitive and build around Russ and PG. Kawhi basically changed that OKC franchise by recruiting PG to LA. Also, the package the Clips gave back then was a historic package (Shai, Gallinari + all their picks and swaps). It was good enough for OKC to start a rebuild. When it comes to the Nets, no team currently is desperate for a 34 yo KD. The Clips were willing to offer everything cause they would get Kawhi in FA too. The James Harden to BKN trade also complicates things because the Nets don't control their picks. If they had their picks, it makes trading KD easier because they can just force a rebuild with the draft assets they acquired

[contract]

If KD sits out to force a trade rest assured like the Flash stated it will be a black eye to the NBA. Forget the media. Owners will rally and go scorched earth next collective bargaining agreement. They are tired of giving these players long term financial security then making fools out of them by asking out. The league will have to step in. Adam Silver was none to pleased about the Durant request either. See for yourself

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/.amp/news/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-was-asked-about-kevin-durant-reported-trade-request-brooklyn-nets

this is why I (you, bish and many others) thought this was never going to happen.

a 34 yo mega super star who has 4 year left on the contract dictating where he wants to go without depleting the trade destination so that he could easily win? i mean how stupid would not only the Nets but the league look if they let this happen? officially contracts mean **** but now they can be used against owners? homerism aside have some sense yall

People can talk about something being better than nothing and him being old, injury prone, and all that stuff, but he just averaged ~ 30 pts/7.4 rebs/6.4 ast on some of the best efficiency in the NBA. The Nets would be insane to trade him for spare parts just to watch the value of the picks they gave Houston rocket into space.

The only way we're getting Durant is through the dark arts.

[Kobewade11]

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Hopefully streak isn't in his underwear & is on the offensive end

Mean streak is something you have as a pup. I dont think Bam will ever be that, just hope he can take a few open jumpers to not cripple the offense.

[HeatFanLifer]

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Hopefully streak isn't in his underwear & is on the offensive end

Social media is fake nonsense. Let’s see the results in the game.

[wadenation305]

I mean anybody here willing to trade like 5 players on the team, 2 of them being 2 of your top three. 5 first, swaps. For a 34 soon to be 35 star player with 4 years left? He's going to be 39 by the time the contract is up and making over 50 mil of our cap space when the wheels have fallen off. Not everything that glitters is gold. If anything at this point I don't want to do the trade anymore. Get us a PF and run that shite. I hope we get them round one so we can embarrass them and then people can tell me how many of our people you still want to trade for him.

I can almost guarantee you that in 4 years time we'll look back and clearly see we're far better off when the clown show continues in Brooklyn.

[wadenation305]

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Hopefully streak isn't in his underwear & is on the offensive end

Mean streak is something you have as a pup. I dont think Bam will ever be that, just hope he can take a few open jumpers to not cripple the offense.

You'd be surprised. I used yo be the big gentle giant that used to get beat up by like 5 kids at the same time. Till one day my dad threatened to kick my ass, then I became the kid that would go to them individually and take them out one by one XD. You can def get a very nasty streak with the proper motivation lol.

[wadenation305]

The Collins trade is another pipe dream. Sacramento tried offering Barnes but the Hawks also wanted the 4th pick and those talks died. As i mentioned earlier Collins has been hanging with Murray and Young all summer so zero indications that the Hawks are desperate to trade him.

As for BK wether it works out or not is up for debate. Looks like Irving and BK management are in a good place and now Durant is hanging in the same room as Simmons so it looks like slowly but surely they are trying to hash things out. I think it’s just time for us to move on much like the Suns did and now the Lakers moving on from Irving.

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Nvm idk how to post gifs on here XD

I feel ya. I wasted about an hour trying to figure it out. Figured it out for the 1st time about time about 4 pages back. Now I can truly be one of the fellas

Spoiler:

I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad. I need to learn how to use this contraption. At least I can use emojis

[contract]

[gfycat]https://images.app.goo.gl/pPQqrmYoxgJNRCWZ8[/gfycat]

Nvm idk how to post gifs on here XD

I feel ya. I wasted about an hour trying to figure it out. Figured it out for the 1st time about time about 4 pages back. Now I can truly be one of the fellas

Spoiler:

I'm Duncan Robinson status right now. Like prime Iggie ATL GT bad. I need to learn how to use this contraption. At least I can use emojis

Copy the url of the picture or gif, click on the Img button just above the posting box, and then paste the url between the tags.

[Flash4thewin]

i'm perfectly fine with FO going for it since we're two of his prefered destinations and our counterpart seemed to have dropped out.

it's just not very realistic with the way KD wants it and I don't think he has as much leverage as some claim that he has. his age, injury history, length of the remaining contract, not great bob. for him to be sitting out a year (that's what AD basically did at 28?) becoming 35 yo with like 40 some regular szn games will have played in last 4 seasons will be wild. who's touching that idk

Somebody gave Durant some terrible advice. Maybe it was Harden who knows but the way he’s played this has opened the door for the BK front office to garner sympathy. They paid Durant to recover from his injury for a whole year.

They gave him financial security by extending his deal at the max they could for 4 more years. They have a solid roster built around him and they gave a 1st round pick before free agency opened to get a player who would fit along side him and take care of the dirty work in Royce O’Neale.

Having Woj announce your trade request right at the open of free agency plays out like some real soap opera non sense. Durant to the Heat for the offer of Lowry, Herro, and Robinson comes off as a complete joke even if we are able to muster up some way of getting 5 picks. Which the sound of it seems absolutely absurd.

Tops we could offer are 3 unprotected and that’s with having to climb the hoop of getting OKC to lift protections on 2025. The other two picks you know damn well would be late late protected with Strus being thrown around.

Honestly when discussing and coming up with all these scenarios seems like utter pipe dream chit on our behalf. It always has since day one tbh. The only rumored trade that has made any semblance of sense has been Jaylen Brown for Durant.

Yet we're still in conversations. If our offer was indeed non-sensicle they scoff, point & laugh at it they'd have told us to go away weeks ago. Especially w/ the knowledge Bam has been off the table for some time. But for a while reports had us, internally, having a good shot. We also don't have precise, exact knowledge of our package. Seems to be ok (obviously not the best) if we still in discussions.

This thing won't be over until after outcome of this meeting & Nets make their decision. Until then we're still very much in the hunt.

I dont understand this take. The Nets have clearly and equivocally said all of our offers are not enough. They constantly tell us to come back with more. They are taking our offer with little interest. From the Nets perspective, what is gained by telling Pat to go F himself, instead of keeping him as a pawn to help drive up the price. We are in the conversation the same way every team at the start of the season is in play to make the playoffs.