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Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1801 » by dean456 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:37 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Dame can go down as a loyal Blazer and thats fine. Totally cool. If he wants to have a contender arpund him, it aint PLand. Franchise cant play both sides. Id move him for the best deal at the deadline. Smaller market than PLand is gonna want tho.


He’s my 3rd favorite player but if he stays he needs to shut the fuxk up. I don’t want to hear another word from him about his future and I don’t want to see any reports from Haynes hinting he might want out next summer if things don’t change for the 7th year in a row


Dame probably going to be more hated this summer if he decides to stay after all this then if he demanded a trade to leave.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1802 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:43 pm

This Kylo Ren kid is an absolutely pure hooper, I’m extremely interested to see him in summer league

If he can be what I think he is he’s going to be a really solid bench mob guy with Caleb Martin sharing the other wings spot. Can create off the dribble and I think he can defend the 4 spot
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1803 » by MorbidHEAT » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:45 pm

Unfortunately, I am having trouble properly converting an image on my phone to html to be able to post it here. Since I can’t show you, I’ll tell you.

I’m driving down the streets of beautiful, sunny (today cloudy) Tampa and while minding my own business, I see a mobile barber truck driving down the road. Why am I telling you this? Because the name of the barber was Jaime The Clipper. Jaime.

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1804 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:45 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Dame can go down as a loyal Blazer and thats fine. Totally cool. If he wants to have a contender arpund him, it aint PLand. Franchise cant play both sides. Id move him for the best deal at the deadline. Smaller market than PLand is gonna want tho.


He’s my 3rd favorite player but if he stays he needs to shut the fuxk up. I don’t want to hear another word from him about his future and I don’t want to see any reports from Haynes hinting he might want out next summer if things don’t change for the 7th year in a row

exactly. if dame stays, he needs to shut up. no more talk about needing a competitive team, or this or that.

not sure who else we can target right now. beal was good but his contract is atrocious, so i can see why the heat didn't do it.

who else is out there?? buddy hield?
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1805 » by ShulaDon92 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:45 pm

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VaDe255 wrote:There are a lot of interesting things the Heat could have done. Including trading Herro before his extension kicks in to open up a ton of cap space to have more options.

But they are just playing with their thumbs and doing nothing instead.

That Dame saga can not come to a close soon enough.


Could've traded Duncan
Couldve traded Herro

And now we got Kylo

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1806 » by HEATVols865 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:46 pm

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Bollocks

What year under Spo have we had s fully healthy team?

During the Big 3, there were at least 3 post seasons that one of our key guys was hurt.
Last year, Bam.
Bubble, Bam, Dragic.

No other team struggles with bad injuries as much as we do in the post season.


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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1807 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:46 pm

batterybro42 wrote:This Kylo Ren kid is an absolutely pure hooper, I’m extremely interested to see him in summer league

If he can be what I think he is he’s going to be a really solid bench mob guy with Caleb Martin sharing the other wings spot. Can create off the dribble and I think he can defend the 4 spot


He needs to work on his 3pt shot, because I imagine Spo is already salivating at the small ball possibilities, throwing him in at the 4 spot
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1808 » by Spacely » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:48 pm

ShulaDon92 wrote:
contract wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
Could've traded Duncan
Couldve traded Herro

And now we got Kylo

-SHULA

Damn you! Now I can't unsee it. :lol:


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Those trades didn't happen.
Jaime Buckets will finish, what jimmy started

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1809 » by dean456 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:53 pm

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Hunter's 4yr/20mil fully guarantied
Bogdanovic's 4yr/18mi with a TO in yr 4
Capela's 2yr/21mil fully guarantied
John Collins' 3yr/26mil w/PO

Collins and Hunter would be the obvious needs.

But screw it we'll do them a solid Lowry and Oladipo for Hunter and Bogdanovic.

Herro/Robinson and all our picks for Lillard

Lillard/Gabe
Bogdanovic/Robinson
Butler/Jaime/Highsmith
Hunter/Caleb
Bam/Jovic
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1810 » by Tony15 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:54 pm

Heat3 wrote:
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Is he not supposed to put the team on his back? He’s the best player on the team and the leader. That’s his job. ...

Why isn't that Pat's job? Why doesn't he put the team on his back and make the moves necessary to put us over the top? That's his job.


It is his job. Except I am open to the possibility that “running it back” (or what ever that means this year) is the best move that can be realistically made and has the best results. And that making other kinds of moves that look good on paper can make the team worse and less successful. That’s why I say not making the wrong move. That may seem like doing nothing to some but not to me. Especially after seeing the results of the last four years. It’s hard for me to see things different after that. Those are real results while seemingly doing very little.

Honestly, this postseason was just so out there I'm not really sure what to make of it. What I DO know based on this franchises' history is that the way they develop players, they aren't going to be short on role guys....and with a 3 dimensional scorer like Dame on this team, injuries notwishstanding, I see zero reason that team couldn't undoubtedly win it all.

On the OTHER hand, to your point, we went in with largely the same group of guys in 2022 that was the #1 seed and was a shot away from the Finals despite being uncommonly awful from 3 after being far and away the best team shooting-wise through 82. Maybe this postseason was to be expected, and with a good physical stretch 4 and/or stretch 5 to put next to Bam & maybe another wing scorer to take the onus off Jimmy offensively along with good health (something the Nuggets for fortunate to have) we win it all next season.

You ask me though? Go get Dame asap if doable. Guys like that are irreplaceable & can't even imagine how much better he'd make Bam just being out there. Just hope we don't wait too long before other options dry up.
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Post#1811 » by Slot Machine » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:57 pm

Would love to get Collins on this team, next to Bam.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1812 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:00 pm

Don’t fall for the John Collins hype fellas, the dude is trash. If we were going to trade for a horrible contract then it should’ve been Beal
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1813 » by IceColdCubano » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:00 pm

dean456 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
dean456 wrote:What I would give for a world where if someone disagrees with a decision this front office made, they would explain it, offer what they would have done as an alternative and why they believe that alternative would be better for this team.

But unfortunately Heat fans gonna Heat fan.


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I don’t have a dog in this fight but here’s an example from last night. I would’ve traded 18 back to the rockets for 20 and additional 2nds or cash or something (maybe use the cash to buy a 2nd) so the Rockets could get their guy Whitmore who still ended up falling to them and the Heat still could’ve drafted the same dude.


I would have explored a deal like this too. But at the end of the day if this was a good viable option for Miami to do, they would have done it.

I had a similar reaction when it happened, because I hadn't looked into Jaime at all and I didn't think he would go that high.

But you just never know what's really happening behind the scenes.

For example
1. Houston may have been trying to move up and told Jaime that they would draft him if he was there and Jamie preferred Miami and Miami found out prior to agreeing to any trade.
2.The information could be old and no longer relevant because Houston changed their mind.
3. The information could have been never true.

I'm not going to mad at hypothetical trades that may not have even been a real option. If its something that's announced and falls apart. Or if they make a seemingly great pick and make a questionable trade then sure but with this there's just too much to speculate.


This is insinuating that we believe that Whitmore was the guy they targeted. For all we know they could of been after any one of the players that went 17,18,19 "Schifino gone to the Lakers was criminal and the guy I wanted" which is whom I predict they were after.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1814 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:01 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Dame can go down as a loyal Blazer and thats fine. Totally cool. If he wants to have a contender arpund him, it aint PLand. Franchise cant play both sides. Id move him for the best deal at the deadline. Smaller market than PLand is gonna want tho.


He’s my 3rd favorite player but if he stays he needs to shut the fuxk up. I don’t want to hear another word from him about his future and I don’t want to see any reports from Haynes hinting he might want out next summer if things don’t change for the 7th year in a row

exactly. if dame stays, he needs to shut up. no more talk about needing a competitive team, or this or that.

not sure who else we can target right now. beal was good but his contract is atrocious, so i can see why the heat didn't do it.

who else is out there?? buddy hield?


Pats been waiting on Dame, he’s going to get it done. If not it’s going to be pretty damn annoying we passed up on Beal and/or KP for literal peanuts just for Pat to not get the job done
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Post#1815 » by IceColdCubano » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:01 pm

dean456 wrote:
CrossOver wrote:
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Hunter's 4yr/20mil fully guarantied
Bogdanovic's 4yr/18mi with a TO in yr 4
Capela's 2yr/21mil fully guarantied
John Collins' 3yr/26mil w/PO

Collins and Hunter would be the obvious needs.

But screw it we'll do them a solid Lowry and Oladipo for Hunter and Bogdanovic.

Herro/Robinson and all our picks for Lillard

Lillard/Gabe
Bogdanovic/Robinson
Butler/Jaime/Highsmith
Hunter/Caleb
Bam/Jovic


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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1816 » by Tony15 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:06 pm

Of those options I'd take Hunter & Bogdanovic (this one mostly because he's a good shooter & has the team option, not sure how many years are left on this deal though).
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Post#1817 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:06 pm

Apparently after all the speculation Trae is untouchable, Murray would be a pretty good fit though tbh.

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Post#1818 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:08 pm

Id take Hunter. Thats muh dude.
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1819 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:13 pm

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There’s a chance the Bucks are looking a lot worse next season. Middleton opted out, Brook and Bobby are free agents I believe. Bucks got some work to do retaining those guys.

This is why I want to wrap this Dame trade up, I feel like someone like Brook might jump at that opportunity to play with a team fresh off a finals appearance that just added an elite PG coming off a season averaging 32-5-8 on crazy efficiency.

We might be shocked at the kind of signings we get after this, kind of like when David West left the money on the Pacers to join the Spurs
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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1820 » by miamiballer » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:14 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
dean456 wrote:What I would give for a world where if someone disagrees with a decision this front office made, they would explain it, offer what they would have done as an alternative and why they believe that alternative would be better for this team.

But unfortunately Heat fans gonna Heat fan.


Read on Twitter


I don’t have a dog in this fight but here’s an example from last night. I would’ve traded 18 back to the rockets for 20 and additional 2nds or cash or something (maybe use the cash to buy a 2nd) so the Rockets could get their guy Whitmore who still ended up falling to them and the Heat still could’ve drafted the same dude.


I would assume that heat were concerned gsw may have taken jjj at 19, could see them going for him

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