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Re: Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond 

Post#1821 » by HeatIn5 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:29 am

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:To be honest draft picks are extremely overvalued in the nba. Even if you landed a future all star it would take atleast 3 seasons for that player to make strides by then your window may have already closed and then your back to square one in rebuilding.pretty much to build a big 3 from the draft it would take you 6 years and no one can project that far into the future. You kinda have to play for now if your contending or close to it.



Gogi/Nunn
Robinson/Herro
Butler/igg
Gallo/Crowder
Bam/Ibaka



Does that get it done?
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Post#1822 » by Wiltside » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:30 am

Going to be very interesting to see where we sit from a roster perspective. If Giannis is taking the Supermax, we probably have to go all in for a 3yr window with Jimmy and review at that time.
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Post#1823 » by The Bunk » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:33 am

**** it.

Go get Beard. Do it. We can beat Lavert/Dinwiddie.
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Post#1824 » by oreon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:36 am

Wiltside wrote:Going to be very interesting to see where we sit from a roster perspective. If Giannis is taking the Supermax, we probably have to go all in for a 3yr window with Jimmy and review at that time.


At this point you go all in on Beal or Harden. Preferably Beal cuz his younger. You offer one off Herro/Robinson + Nunn + KZ + picks and pick swaps, you can also add a S & T for DJJ. If you are gonna offer multipe picks + swaps, you don't need to put both Herro + Robinson on the table.
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Post#1825 » by EMC5466 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:37 am

Go get Bradley Beal, Pat.
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Post#1826 » by SoFlaKingReal » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:42 am

No need to break up our core...we have the cap space to ADD two really solid FAs this offseason.
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Post#1827 » by HeatIn5 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:44 am

SoFlaKingReal wrote:No need to break up our core...we have the cap space to ADD two really solid FAs this offseason.



Gotta find a way to unload Kelly and Iggys expirings
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Post#1828 » by oreon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:13 am

Read on Twitter


There goes the Giannis dream. Bucks are now favs in the East depending on how Durant looks like. The Harden to Nets could change that though
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Post#1829 » by BFRESH44 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:14 am

Milwaukee took that ass whooping in the bubble to heart. Good moves.
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Post#1830 » by dean456 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:15 am

I say we make the investment into Beal now.

Herro, Robinson, Olynyk, Iguodala 2020 pick swap #20 for #37, 2022 FRP and another FRP

Buy another 2nd round pick on draft night and draft Vernon Carry Jr at 37 and Someone like Nwora
Re-sign Dragic, Crowder and sign Gallinari and Millsap

Then if it comes to 2021 and Giannis decides he wants to come here then we start talking about moving Bam based on how he improves and how we perform this next season.

Possibly end up with a Beal, Butler and Giannis core going forward. Beal and Butler expire on the same year so we have the ability to re tool should we need to once that time comes.
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Post#1831 » by dean456 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:20 am

**** Milwaukee going in right now.

Holiday
Bogdanovic
Middleton
Giannis
Lopez

That is going to be tough...
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Post#1832 » by dean456 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:29 am

Why do I feel like the Holiday deal and Bogdanovic trades are to spite Miami knowing that their target was Giannis. Miami have likely been discussing trades with the Kings and New Orleans for one of Holiday or Fox. Miami likely short changed them and they said F it we'll take Milwaukee's offers.
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Post#1833 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:33 am

1. Jure trade might look horrible in a year. If it doesn't make Giannis extend, it might be what drives him out from MIL. Bucks gave up ALOT for a good (not great) player that isn't the cleanest fit.

2. Beal is underrated here IMO. He's a 27 YO that put up 26 PPG and 30 PPG on 58TS% last 2 years. He might still be improving.

3. If Giannis extends with Bucks in the next week, if think we're changing our plans completely and I think we're going after Harden or Beal hard.

4. Hope Herro survives, love the kid.
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Post#1834 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:49 am

Oh man just Saw the Bucks also landed Bogdan Bogdanović. And they got him cheap too. That's bad news. He's good and fits there perfectly now.

**** hell man. Bucks got a lot better.
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Post#1835 » by Wiltside » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:57 am

Yeah. This ain’t good for our Giannis hopes.

Might be time to pivot. Sure seems like supermax incoming.
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Post#1836 » by iamoti » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:01 am

I hope we dont panic and overpay Beal. We got a strong young core who can get better. Getting Millsap and Galo is enough

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Post#1837 » by wadenation305 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:17 am

Why the hell are people gifting players to the bucks now? I mean I understand NOL getting basically 5 first round picks, but sac now to just handing Bogdan too? I guess its small markets uniting. Get Beal no Herro included and then kick the tires again on Gallo maybe Ibaka, and see if Millsap can be had for cheap, then speak with detroit to see what it would take to get Rose. And see if Boogie is in shape.

Rose, Nunn, Vincent
Beal, Herro
Butler, ???
Bam, Millsap, UD
Ibaka, Boogie

Think I like this better than Gallo tbh, I'm assuming Robinson would be gone in a Beal trade with Kelly, DJJ, Nunn and Iggy along with any foreseeable pick we own, we would still need a back up SF.
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Post#1838 » by dean456 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:18 am

iamoti wrote:I hope we dont panic and overpay Beal. We got a strong young core who can get better. Getting Millsap and Galo is enough

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But will we still be this good once Jimmy ages out? Herro and Robinson might get better but if guys like Jimmy and Dragic are declining then what's the point? We are then just replacing our current good players with our up and coming players.

I was on board with holding on to our young guys when there was the prospect of a big name free agent possibly joining us in 2021 but if that list starts to dwindle then I think we need to consider making a win now move.
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Post#1839 » by TMIMITW » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:23 am

Lets just simmer down, and wait to see what Giannis does, once he signs supermax then we react. But I am sure beal, fox, and someone we aint expecting will come up after
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Re: Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond... 

Post#1840 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:28 am

Haha how we feelin’ gents! It was getting too quite over there in Mil...These were the moves expected to appease Giannis. Fantastic signings. Anything less & they’d be in trouble. Remember they still need to make it out of the East. If they don’t, esp. w/ this beefed up roster, say buh-bye to Giannis. This guarantees nothing. The pressure is on.

Bucks are going to want revenge in the worst way...I say bring it!

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