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MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time 

Post#1821 » by SA37 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:56 am

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Heat_team02 wrote:KZ used to play different before he got here.





It's a small sample, but again, I just don't see an NBA player there.

This smells a lot like one of those picks/acquisitions teams make because suddenly teams get the Jay Bilas shakes and are enamored by wingspan, length, and "he can guard/play all 5 positions" and get distracted from real basketball skills.

I hope I have to eat my words, but from the little bit I have seen, I don't think Okpala is going to be in the league much longer.


That's what you call a raw NBA player. Its been done in the past and present. The past was a lot more difficult because you had to play the guy during real games and lose while developing him. A team must be committed to long term. That is why you have G-League and SL to use to develop a player. Derrick Jones Jr was a player who was very raw, and got two SL and G-leagues before he was sent to Miami and was able to get some minutes for the Heat. He also gotten minutes on a bad Pheonix roster who could afford to lose and develop players. Derrick Jones Jr got two summer leagues, 2 g-leagues seasons, he got two seasons of NBA minutes with Phoenix. Miami picked him up the mid 2nd year. His stats are pretty bad but he learned how to stay within a certain role. And that is what the Heat are hoping Okpala can learn to master a small specialize role. They are hoping he can become a better version of DJJ. And possibly more than that when he gets older.

I understand that many think a player is getting a lot training during a NBA season, that is true, as far as getting NBA experience and seeing how Pros prepare for games but the player does not get development time. Meaning he is not attended to individually and allowed to f up in practice because teams do not practice a lot during the season. Most of the time they are doing drills to keep body in shape and in the film room. When they are doing a fullcourt practice its about getting the team ready for a game plan. The end of the bench players are used as players imitating the opposing teams for the regular rotation players to practice against. Teams do not get as much fullcourt practice as some may think.


Practice time is something that will be in short supply around the NBA this season; teams are basically playing every other day, and that — along with travel and mandated days off — realistically leaves time for no more than two practices per week




And there are times they do not practice for a whole week or longer. In terms of fullcourt play. There is no time for a team trying to win for Okpala to try new things during practice or work on new things during practice. The rotation players are what is being attended to. And its why the Heat like the to have old vets at the end of the bench. Players who do not need individual attention.


I think a guy like Okpala, who isn't going to get consistent playing time, is going to be working extensively with the assistant coaches when he does travel with the team. This is precisely why you claim BS injuries and the player doesn't travel with the team sometimes; they can stay and work with some of the assistant coaches and staff that don't travel with the team. It makes no sense to drag a player to all 82 games for mainly DNPs if he isn't going to be able to also get some reps in before and after games (even if it isn't the 5-on-5 or more team-oriented types of practices); you're better off just sending him to the G-League.

I do understand Okpala is young and the Heat acquired him because they clearly saw some hope he could develop into a legit NBA player. It might happen. In the videos, highlights, and few games (4-5) I have seen Okpala in, I just don't see a guy who is going to make it in the NBA. There are just too many talented guys coming in every year and, while Okpala is still young enough some teams will still see him as a viable prospect because he is 22, that window will be closing relatively soon.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time 

Post#1822 » by SA37 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:10 pm

HIF wrote:Is this now the KZ Opala thread? Shows how much we've got to look forward to at the moment.


Miami may have made some of the most uninspiring acquisitions relative to what those players could mean for Miami going forward. I don't think anyone is going to be running into the Miami Heat store to get their Tucker, Morris, or Lowry jerseys. The only people who are excited about seeing $90M being spent on Duncan Robinson are his family, his entourage, and a handful of Heat execs and staffers.

Oladipo's injury and uncertain return, Herro's meh season, Adebayo's reluctance (inability?) to take over games, and Miami getting swept out of the playoffs were collectively a discouraging end to Miami's season, especially after Brooklyn's acquisitions and Milwaukee's title run.
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Post#1823 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:22 pm

puppa bear wrote: it’s more that people have specific axes to grind and hi-jack a thread to do so. At least Grumpy has the decency to start his own Nunn over Herro thread - maybe 3ball needs a bashing KZ thread.


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Post#1824 » by AirP. » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:32 pm

So, anyone hear anything on the tampering, it's been nearly 2 weeks since the NBA mentioned they'll be looking into it.
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Post#1826 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:10 am

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Post#1827 » by carnageta » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:44 am

3ballbomber wrote:Let's Goo!
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Post#1828 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:19 am

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He had better be coming for heads after that playoff performance :lol: in all seriousness, it should be an MVP-like campaign for Jimmy. For all the talk about missed trades last year, this group has been revamped with his guys in his image. He hasn’t been around a team that has committed completely to building around him and frankly I haven't seen this team do that for any one player in a long time, so no excuses this year.
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Post#1829 » by wadenation305 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:04 am

Is Kz the new Bustice Winslow of the forums?
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Post#1830 » by AirP. » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:27 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:He had better be coming for heads after that playoff performance :lol: in all seriousness, it should be an MVP-like campaign for Jimmy. For all the talk about missed trades last year, this group has been revamped with his guys in his image. He hasn’t been around a team that has committed completely to building around him and frankly I haven't seen this team do that for any one player in a long time, so no excuses this year.

You're completely right about the situation he's in.

It'll would be interesting to find out what happened to Butler either mentally, physically or both from the point of doing very well in the regular season to just missing lots of shots including easy put back shots. Something was off in that timeframe of the first round, maybe possibly 1 or 2 games of the end of the season that he sat out.
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Post#1831 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:49 pm

wadenation305 wrote:Is Kz the new Bustice Winslow of the forums?

Bustice was better
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Post#1832 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:15 pm

In non KZ Bustpala news

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Post#1833 » by DayofMourning » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:05 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:In non KZ Bustpala news

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Heat gonna be in the tax once Oladipo returns to top 50 player form.
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Post#1834 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:32 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:In non KZ Bustpala news

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Heat gonna be in the tax once Oladipo returns to top 50 player form.

They know this and this is why they are trying to avoid paying the tax this year in order to reset the repeater. No way they pay the tax at this point for anyone that's available for the vet minimum. They will patiently wait it out with the 300K they have left on the books to spend and sign someone to a prorated deal sometime when the buyout market starts to get hot after the trade deadline.
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Post#1835 » by Slot Machine » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:14 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:In non KZ Bustpala news

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This article blurb/news is from May.
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Post#1836 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:17 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:In non KZ Bustpala news

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This article blurb/news is from May.

It was getting bounced around and talked about again today so thought we would revisit some potential good news to look forward too instead of thinking about KZ's 6ppg average in the G league.
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Post#1837 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:26 pm

Heard on the radio that 26 of our first 42 games are on the road. Not sure if that's good or bad lol, I guess it's what you make of it

Ngl tho after we spent all of last season perpetually trying to dig ourselves out of a hole, I was kinda hoping for a soft early schedule while the players/coaches get acclimated to the new roster
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Post#1838 » by DayofMourning » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:35 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Heard on the radio that 26 of our first 42 games are on the road. Not sure if that's good or bad lol, I guess it's what you make of it

Ngl tho after we spent all of last season perpetually trying to dig ourselves out of a hole, I was kinda hoping for a soft early schedule while the players/coaches get acclimated to the new roster


The only thing that would help this Butler lead squad is if the season was 42 games long. Lots of bad reps last regular season. Lots of missed games. Lack of urgency. Poor direction. We can do better. As KobeWade said, no excuses.
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Post#1839 » by AirP. » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:18 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:In non KZ Bustpala news

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