2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

[MartyConlonJr]

Even with the Rozier news I’m absolutely obsessed with your guys over/under at over 36.5 games. Last season’s Butler drama took a ton out of everyone I feel like and there are multiple players either in contract years or in good spots to have bounce back years (Bam/Powell/Rozier/Jaquez. East is awful, heat never tank and Spolestra is still the best coach in basketball.

I put the house on them getting 37+ wins but wana put even more. Anything big im missing here that should have me hold off ?

I'd say go look at Pat Riley's last big press conference where he said Miami Heat have only tanked twice, and they never said they were tanking those times, but they were. And that they expect to compete. Zoom in and check if he winked at any point, because it's got me wondering if there wasn't a message in that in which we are gonna tank this year.

[MartyConlonJr]

The problem with JJJ is that as of today he is not a positive asset. He just had a horrible year and is on the older side for a rookie. Maybe he has a bounce back season but right now his value is worse that Terry because at least Terry is an expiring.

In no universe is Jaquez's value worse than Terry's at the moment. What? Jaime is owed 8mil over the next two seasons.

Terry is a 26 million expiring who sucks
JJJ is like a 3.8 mill expiring who has potential and can contribute something positive. He has a team option next year so team can just decline it. Which makes him even better than an expiring, because he is expiring if you want, and you own his rights if he blows up.

[RexBoyWonder]

Even with the Rozier news I’m absolutely obsessed with your guys over/under at over 36.5 games. Last season’s Butler drama took a ton out of everyone I feel like and there are multiple players either in contract years or in good spots to have bounce back years (Bam/Powell/Rozier/Jaquez. East is awful, heat never tank and Spolestra is still the best coach in basketball.

I put the house on them getting 37+ wins but wana put even more. Anything big im missing here that should have me hold off ?

It’s free as fuxk if we’re being honest, they boys are locked in for a .500 season at worst. I’m planning on putting the mortgage on it myself

I'd encourage you both to take a deep breath and not bet anything you can't afford to lose on this crazy ass team.

The predication thread on the last few years tends to be all over the place, and this team is heavily dependent on unknows commodities like Ware/Jovic/Larsson and even the always enigmatic/annoying Wiggins. Herro's availability is also a risk IMO.

Bottom line - Just don't do it.

[VaDe255]

I think the over is value, but yeah never bet too much on one single bet, major injuries can easily derail a season

[twix2500]

Andrew Wiggins is not a bad person but he is a talent that takes a skill of dealing with a personality to get the max out of Wiggins. Spo has to figure out how to coach and manage Wiggins personality.

Across the board it was a horrible coaching season for Spo. The play calls were bad and the players didn't know how to run the plays. There was a lot of confusion when players were on the court on what each person role was. Mixed with young and dumb players (Rozier) along with a lot of additions Spo tried to make the offense simple by the time the playoffs came. The offense was so simple it was easy for the Cavs to game plan for.

Hopefully this upcoming season Spo has right system to run that matches the talent and time time to coach the players up to run the system properly. And that maybe make a highly productive Wiggins

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[Kobewade11]

Let the mods take care of his baiting and trolling. I’m sure they don’t want to be seen as playing favorites after they just banned 3ballbomber for similar reasons.

Is that right?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Even with the Rozier news I’m absolutely obsessed with your guys over/under at over 36.5 games. Last season’s Butler drama took a ton out of everyone I feel like and there are multiple players either in contract years or in good spots to have bounce back years (Bam/Powell/Rozier/Jaquez. East is awful, heat never tank and Spolestra is still the best coach in basketball.

I put the house on them getting 37+ wins but wana put even more. Anything big im missing here that should have me hold off ?

It’s free as fuxk if we’re being honest, they boys are locked in for a .500 season at worst. I’m planning on putting the mortgage on it myself

I'd encourage you both to take a deep breath and not bet anything you can't afford to lose on this crazy ass team.

The predication thread on the last few years tends to be all over the place, and this team is heavily dependent on unknows commodities like Ware/Jovic/Larsson and even the always enigmatic/annoying Wiggins. Herro's availability is also a risk IMO.

Bottom line - Just don't do it.

For sure! Anyone that bets, never bet anything you’re not ok with losing

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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That Luka extension is gonna hit like an RPG to the chest

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Daffy]

If I used green font would it help you feel better about that post or would it have still upset you?

It’s not about making me feel better, just pointing out how you bring the heat on yourself with what you say. Here you are again with the bait and switch… you said that Bam is the greatest player in the world, which you have said with full chest hundreds of times in here, and I love that you really like Bam and his game that much. He is a great player and deserves die hard fans like that… with that said, just be aware that most of us disagree with that specific statement, but do agree he is a great player. That does not makes us Bam haters.

I am making my weekly attempt to keep that notion in check in here before you run rampant again with your Bam love and we all hate him nonsense. Also, pretending your statement is green font worthy is disingenuous and we all know better and that you meant it with your chest.

Let the mods take care of his baiting and trolling. I’m sure they don’t want to be seen as playing favorites after they just banned 3ballbomber for similar reasons.

Damn Bomber is gone? Personally didn't seem that bad to me outside of the back and forth with 3ammy.

[Daffy]

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You know......If we landed KD I wonder if we still go after Powell which i personally feel like we would have. Would've probably pushed for a vet PG and bring Powell off the bench. In the scenario of acquiring KD i would also be so much more confident that we'd acquire Dame.

[Daffy]

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That Luka extension is gonna hit like an RPG to the chest

This is the whale of whales. Moby-Dick or shall we call it........Luka-Dick. (Pause)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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You know......If we landed KD I wonder if we still go after Powell which i personally feel like we would have. Would've probably pushed for a vet PG and bring Powell off the bench. In the scenario of acquiring KD i would also be so much more confident that we'd acquire Dame.

I would assume so considering it was such a layup to get done and would be some high level depth. Yea I think Dame would be pretty much a guarantee as well but considering we’re not contending anymore he probably doesn’t want to come here over legit contenders, situations completely different now

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s not about making me feel better, just pointing out how you bring the heat on yourself with what you say. Here you are again with the bait and switch… you said that Bam is the greatest player in the world, which you have said with full chest hundreds of times in here, and I love that you really like Bam and his game that much. He is a great player and deserves die hard fans like that… with that said, just be aware that most of us disagree with that specific statement, but do agree he is a great player. That does not makes us Bam haters.

I am making my weekly attempt to keep that notion in check in here before you run rampant again with your Bam love and we all hate him nonsense. Also, pretending your statement is green font worthy is disingenuous and we all know better and that you meant it with your chest.

Let the mods take care of his baiting and trolling. I’m sure they don’t want to be seen as playing favorites after they just banned 3ballbomber for similar reasons.

Damn Bomber is gone? Personally didn't seem that bad to me outside of the back and forth with 3ammy.

If he’s gone, he’s gone. You can’t come on here calling people several different names daily just because you disagree with them and be warned several times with no repercussions. If you didn’t approve of every single thing the Heat did he was going after you. If everyone knew what he was doing prior to being on this forum he wouldn’t get defended or viewed as “playing favorites”. He shouldn’t be allowed to post on Internet forums and that’s the last I’ll speak on him.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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That Luka extension is gonna hit like an RPG to the chest

This is the whale of whales. Moby-Dick or shall we call it........Luka-Dick. (Pause)

Looking very slim too, Nico woke up a monster lol. I will say it’s kind of odd after going to the finals that he came in last season as out of shape as he did. He had a ton of nagging injuries so maybe he just rested and tried to heal last summer and didn’t watch what he ate, idk. Think he had a baby also so maybe that took him out of his normal routine too

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Let the mods take care of his baiting and trolling. I’m sure they don’t want to be seen as playing favorites after they just banned 3ballbomber for similar reasons.

Damn Bomber is gone? Personally didn't seem that bad to me outside of the back and forth with 3ammy.

If he’s gone, he’s gone. You can’t come on here calling people several different names daily just because you disagree with them and be warned several times with no repercussions. If you didn’t approve of every single thing the Heat did he was going after you. If everyone knew what he was doing prior to being on this forum he wouldn’t get defended or viewed as “playing favorites”. He shouldn’t be allowed to post on Internet forums and that’s the last I’ll speak on him.

If someone can't stop personal attacks I'm fine with action being taken. Beyond that though I'm pretty much a free speech absolutist and hard disagree there, but that's all I'll say on that.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Even with the Rozier news I’m absolutely obsessed with your guys over/under at over 36.5 games. Last season’s Butler drama took a ton out of everyone I feel like and there are multiple players either in contract years or in good spots to have bounce back years (Bam/Powell/Rozier/Jaquez. East is awful, heat never tank and Spolestra is still the best coach in basketball.

I put the house on them getting 37+ wins but wana put even more. Anything big im missing here that should have me hold off ?

I'd say go look at Pat Riley's last big press conference where he said Miami Heat have only tanked twice, and they never said they were tanking those times, but they were. And that they expect to compete. Zoom in and check if he winked at any point, because it's got me wondering if there wasn't a message in that in which we are gonna tank this year.

I think if this LeBron thing is all smoke and no fire, this could very well be a tank year. I know Powell seems like a win now move, but it could just as easily be another piece to potentially squeeze a draft pick out of a team at the deadline who wants him. He's positive value and we gave up nothing for him.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Even with the Rozier news I’m absolutely obsessed with your guys over/under at over 36.5 games. Last season’s Butler drama took a ton out of everyone I feel like and there are multiple players either in contract years or in good spots to have bounce back years (Bam/Powell/Rozier/Jaquez. East is awful, heat never tank and Spolestra is still the best coach in basketball.

I put the house on them getting 37+ wins but wana put even more. Anything big im missing here that should have me hold off ?

I'd say go look at Pat Riley's last big press conference where he said Miami Heat have only tanked twice, and they never said they were tanking those times, but they were. And that they expect to compete. Zoom in and check if he winked at any point, because it's got me wondering if there wasn't a message in that in which we are gonna tank this year.

I think if this LeBron thing is all smoke and no fire, this could very well be a tank year. I know Powell seems like a win now move, but it could just as easily be another piece to potentially squeeze a draft pick out of a team at the deadline who wants him. He's positive value and we gave up nothing for him.

Could definitely get an asset for Norm at the deadline more than likely, I’m not sure we’ll go that route though. I’m starting to think this team is going to be sneaky good if guys improve over the summer and Wiggins bounces back (if he and Terry aren’t traded) and was really only playing bad due to injury.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I'd say go look at Pat Riley's last big press conference where he said Miami Heat have only tanked twice, and they never said they were tanking those times, but they were. And that they expect to compete. Zoom in and check if he winked at any point, because it's got me wondering if there wasn't a message in that in which we are gonna tank this year.

I think if this LeBron thing is all smoke and no fire, this could very well be a tank year. I know Powell seems like a win now move, but it could just as easily be another piece to potentially squeeze a draft pick out of a team at the deadline who wants him. He's positive value and we gave up nothing for him.

Could definitely get an asset for Norm at the deadline more than likely, I’m not sure we’ll go that route though. I’m starting to think this team is going to be sneaky good if guys improve over the summer and Wiggins bounces back (if he and Terry aren’t traded) and was really only playing bad due to injury.

I'm not gonna root against them or count them out, but I think if they start out really bad its a possible tank year. 11-30 to 30-11 felt great in the moment, but it really didn't do us any favors in the long term.

I think a lot's gonna hinge on Ware, Bam/Herro alone isn't enough for 50 wins, Wiggins ceiling in the NBA is role player (he's in his 30's already), so if Ware doesn't make any leap and continues to look like he's too cool for school, it'll be hard for the team to get much better. I want to see more from JJJ/Pelle/Jovic too, but those guys are probably also just role players at the end of the day. And I'm excited for JK's future but its clear he's not ready to have an impact this year.