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RexBoyWonder wrote:Don't Leaf it guys. this **** ain't funny. This ain't the time to go white stiff road.
NBA is in shambles, Leaf is not the hero we need. We have to go for upside.
Met his dad BTW, nice guy.Spoiler:
Leaf was born in Tel Aviv to Karen and Brad Leaf. His father was playing professional basketball in Israel at the time, and he enjoyed a 17-year career in the country.
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
Looks are deceiving when it comes to NBA draft prospect Isaiah Hartenstein.
The 19-year-old looks much more like Kevin Love than Kevin Durant. The German last name adds to the assumption that he is a white teenager. But the 7-foot, 220-pounder is black, to the surprise of many he has encountered.
“When they look at my basketball game, they kind of see it a little bit,” Hartenstein told The Undefeated. “It’s OK. I know I am half-black, but you can’t really see by my skin tone. Sometimes they laugh and say, ‘It’s not possible.’ And then they see my dad and kind of say, ‘OK, we understand.’ ”
Hartenstein is the son of Florian Hartenstein, a former University of Oregon center. Florian’s father is an African-American who met Florian’s mother in Germany while serving in the U.S. military. Florian said as a kid growing up in Germany, he heard some racist words against blacks.
Florian Hartenstein taught his son African-American history. There were a lot of lessons about Martin Luther King Jr.’s teachings and the civil rights movement. Isaiah Hartenstein’s parents also taught him to see people as people. He is a big fan of King and says it’s important to “respect every culture.”
“From the Martin Luther King days, I just learned how everyone stuck together for one movement,” he said. “To see how far it came from one person speaking out loud and having the guts to speak out, I’m really happy and blessed that he did that. My mom and dad probably wouldn’t have ever met [otherwise].
“I’m blessed for not only what he did [for black] culture, but for every culture. [King] really brought everyone together, and that is a real blessing.”
Hartenstein made a name for himself starring for Lithuania Zalgiris Kaunas at the Adidas Next Generation Tournament last year and also playing for the World team in the Hoop Summit. He played sparingly for Euroleague power Zalgiris Kaunas’ top team, averaging 4.2 points and 3.3 rebounds over 11.5 minutes per game last season. After Zalgiris Kaunas won the 2017 Lithuanian championship recently, Hartenstein arrived in the United States on June 15, a week before the draft, to work out for teams. He is a late first-round prospect.
About a dozen NBA teams attended a workout for Hartenstein hosted by his agency Wasserman Group in Santa Monica, California, on June 17. He worked out for the Portland Trail Blazers, who have three first-round picks, on Monday. Hartenstein’s agent, B.J. Armstrong, said his client was expected to work out for two NBA teams in New York before the draft.
“He has good size and athleticism,” one NBA general manager said of Hartenstein. “He has a lot of upside. He is a good future prospect. He has a chance to be a contributing NBA player. People are looking at him late first, early second [round].”
Hartenstein is quite comfortable being in the United States again after spending more than half of his life in this country. His father hopes that the racism that has plagued America doesn’t come his mixed family’s way now that they are back.
RexBoyWonder wrote:Spoiler:Spoiler:Spoiler:
seriously guys.
twix2500 wrote:dam has just about all the stretch 4 players drafted the past 2 years been bust?
radikalBaller wrote:The ony stretch 4s that can make it work, are the ones with quick feets, good length, and ability to switch on D. Jordan Bell, OG (provided they continue to develop a 3pt shot) and DJ wilson may be the only representatives of that category of players in this draft...after that you need to look at 3 and D guys like Michel, Thornwell, Ojeleye, Iwundu...
SpacelyH wrote:radikalBaller wrote:The ony stretch 4s that can make it work, are the ones with quick feets, good length, and ability to switch on D. Jordan Bell, OG (provided they continue to develop a 3pt shot) and DJ wilson may be the only representatives of that category of players in this draft...after that you need to look at 3 and D guys like Michel, Thornwell, Ojeleye, Iwundu...
At this point i don't even know why we are looking at Jordan Bell or any of the guys you mentioned, he isn't in our range unless we draft down or buy another pick. I doubt the Heat picks him/them.
Its definitely between
Donovan Mitchell
Luke Kennard
Zach Collins
Justin Jackson
John Collins
in that order imo. Unless a player that's in the top 10 drops to us and we pick him up.
SpacelyH wrote:My mock draft:
1. Fultz
2. Ball
3. Tatum
4. Jackson
5. Fox
6. Isaac
7. Markkanen
8. Monk
9. Ntilinkina
10. Z. Collins
11. Kennard
12. Smith
13. Anunoby
14. Mitchell
Bishop45 wrote:Fultz-6ers
Lonzo-Lakers
Jackson-Celtic's
Tatum-Suns
Smith- Kings
Fox- Magic
ZCollins -Wolves (Subject to change, doubt wolves keep pick)
Monk-Knicks
Ntilikina- Dallas(Could flip-flop with Knicks)
Justin Jackson- Kings
Markkanen-Hornets
Mitchell-Pistons
Collins or Anunoby or Leaf- Denver/Heat
Gets really murky after 9, anything could happen. Tried to draft based on fit
