MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[AirP.]

I'm following the Heat, somewhat a fan now but will move on at some point. I'm not blinded by fandom.

Why wait

I actually like most of this board's posters and I appreciate the Miami basketball environment which was put in place by Riley. I also enjoy reading your posts when you're not taking shots at other posters.

[Kobewade11]

I actually like most of this board's posters and I appreciate the Miami basketball environment which was put in place by Riley. I also enjoy reading your posts when you're not taking shots at other posters.

I give it straight. Some people will like that and some wont.

[MHeat0279]

I actually like most of this board's posters and I appreciate the Miami basketball environment which was put in place by Riley. I also enjoy reading your posts when you're not taking shots at other posters.

I give it straight. Some people will like that and some wont.

Its all about sharing different opinions. What is the purpose of a message board if not to share different opinions and discuss?
At the end of the day if you do not work close with Riley you will not know what is going on behind the scenes.

[Kobewade11]

Read on Twitter

I'm still amazed 4 years in he lacks the confidence to shoot the 3 ball when he very clearly has the capability to be an adequate shooter. Just look at his pre draft workout.

Watch on YouTube

[heater4life]

IG models really be thinking they're strong independent individuals. Lol what a skank.

In a world where everyone is perfect, can do no wrong, and can’t be criticized. What a beautiful post sir!

[Hallstar]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

[Beenie]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

Pretty sure it would have to be a S&T.

Kawhi has a player option for 36m and I don't think Mia is capable of opening up enough space (w/o moving Jimmy or Bam) to flat out sign Kawhi to at least that number.

[Kobewade11]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

Max cap space went out the door when we extended Bam. Paycut or S&T is all we have to offer.

[twix2500]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

No

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[canada_dry]

If his doctor did what he was supposed to the first time, I wouldn’t be this skeptical. But for a guy who relies on his athleticism, not really a good outside shooter, and has been with major injuries the last two years, it’s expected. I like him, pray he gets healthy and is able to contribute to the team if he’s kept. I don’t think he gets back to all-star level though, hope I’m wrong but previous evidence points to a different direction.

I'm not expecting Oladipo being an all-star, I'm expecting(at some point next year) a 2 way player who can score around 20 a night to go along Butler, Bam and hopefully someone else really good that they acquire in the offseason. I believe Oladipo can make the defense much better while also making the offense better. Miami should have 3 and possible more very good switchable defenders on the team, I'm hoping Miami gets away from having any weak links defensively from the starting lineup or at least, having an ending group of all 2 way players.

A 2 way player averaging 20 (which hes only done once) is an all star player. Ur not getting that. I say this as someone disillusioned with oladipo in the past. Dont expect that much lol. Ull be let down

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[Hallstar]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

Pretty sure it would have to be a S&T.

Kawhi has a player option for 36m and I don't think Mia is capable of opening up enough space (w/o moving Jimmy or Bam) to flat out sign Kawhi to at least that number.

Aye...guess I do have interest in a S&T

[canada_dry]

The more I think about it, seems kinda unlikely Lowry gets that multiyear $25+ per he wants. Gonna be a handful of PGs on the market this summer, most of them substantially younger and cheaper than Lowry:

CP3
Conley
Dinwiddie
Reggie
Schroder
Rose
McConnell

Then you have Dragic and Ball who might also be available, plus quasi-PGs like DeRozan and Dipo. SGs like Powell, THJ, Fournier and even JRich will also contribute to the total money teams will spend on guards this offseason

With all these guys getting paid whatever they'll be paid, what team is gonna be in the market to throw a multiyear $25+ per at Lowry? How many teams are in such critical need of a PG that they'd be compelled to brutally overpay for a 35yo Lowry when there's so many other cheaper/younger options available?

Is that what u think the more you think about it? Because lowry market PROBABLY went up seeing all the teams that should have traded for him go up in flames in the playoffs. He might never have gotten 25 at first if we r being honest..probably closer to 20. Now? I think its closer to 25 than it was before the playoffs.

There were guys in here that wanted norm powell. If the blazers traded dame , norm definitely isnt staying there. And he still might not with all the drama going on, he has a quick out. Is there still interest in the board, or? Could be a nice fit.

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[SoFlaKingReal]

I’ve been away from the site, but I see paragraphP (not sure who coined that monicker but its classic) is still baiting users into having the same argument he’s had literally dozens of times.

The Miami Heat have been to the Finals more than any other team over the past 15 years. Is Riley perfect? Is Arison perfect? Absolutely Not.

Long before paragraphP was a Heat fan, fans would question Riley/Arison over the decision to amnesty Mike Miller. There has always been questionable decisions made, but the end result is 6 finals appearances and 3 championships over the past 15 years.

Keep going on and on about CP3…the reality is that the Heat have won some and lost some, but they’ve always had a plan. And those plans have made the Heat one of the most successful franchises of the 2000s.

[AirP.]

If his doctor did what he was supposed to the first time, I wouldn’t be this skeptical. But for a guy who relies on his athleticism, not really a good outside shooter, and has been with major injuries the last two years, it’s expected. I like him, pray he gets healthy and is able to contribute to the team if he’s kept. I don’t think he gets back to all-star level though, hope I’m wrong but previous evidence points to a different direction.

I'm not expecting Oladipo being an all-star, I'm expecting(at some point next year) a 2 way player who can score around 20 a night to go along Butler, Bam and hopefully someone else really good that they acquire in the offseason. I believe Oladipo can make the defense much better while also making the offense better. Miami should have 3 and possible more very good switchable defenders on the team, I'm hoping Miami gets away from having any weak links defensively from the starting lineup or at least, having an ending group of all 2 way players.

A 2 way player averaging 20 (which hes only done once) is an all star player. Ur not getting that. I say this as someone disillusioned with oladipo in the past. Dont expect that much lol. Ull be let down

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Oladipo average 21 in Houston and looked rusty doing it. I'd expect with better facilitators around him vs someone like J.Wall who was playing selfish in Houston and having a coach create plays for him will help his efficiency.

[Flash4thewin]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

Max cap space went out the door when we extended Bam. Paycut or S&T is all we have to offer.

I know I’m going to regret this but what would the S&T even look like. Remember other teams have Max cap space for Kawhi and one one has said we are even on his radar. So for fun Kawhi camp says make max space or find a S&T or else he goes to the Knicks, what do we offer? Hero and multiple unprotected first round picks just to start the conversation right?

[eddieheatfan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263188/Michael-Beasley-To-Play-For-Blazers-In-Summer-League


beasley fans rejoice, he might be one of the trade cards for " dame"

[MettaWorldPanda]

1st things 1st, do we have the space to sign Kawhi, cause I have zero interest in selling a paycut or expecting a S&T

Max cap space went out the door when we extended Bam. Paycut or S&T is all we have to offer.

I know I’m going to regret this but what would the S&T even look like. Remember other teams have Max cap space for Kawhi and one one has said we are even on his radar. So for fun Kawhi camp says make max space or find a S&T or else he goes to the Knicks, what do we offer? Hero and multiple unprotected first round picks just to start the conversation right?

We have 23 mil in cap space with the chance for 32 if we renounce Nunn and Robinson too. We would also have room exception. A trade for Leonard looks like Dragic,Iguodala,Herro,Achuiwa, and Okpala total 42.9 million so that would be the starting salary for Leonard. We would have 9.7 million MLE but will be pressed up against the salary apron so the rest of the team will be filled with young players and vet minimums. I’m not even sure we would be able to use the MLE due to S&T hard cap restrictions. Seems rather complicated tbh. Dallas will also be able to put together an aggressive offer. I think he should just take his super max with the Clips and stay home. He’s given no indication he wants to leave other then the talking heads who’s job is to hype of free agency.

[IceColdCubano]

Max cap space went out the door when we extended Bam. Paycut or S&T is all we have to offer.

I know I’m going to regret this but what would the S&T even look like. Remember other teams have Max cap space for Kawhi and one one has said we are even on his radar. So for fun Kawhi camp says make max space or find a S&T or else he goes to the Knicks, what do we offer? Hero and multiple unprotected first round picks just to start the conversation right?

We have 23 mil in cap space with the chance for 32 if we renounce Nunn and Robinson too. We would also have room exception. A trade for Leonard looks like Dragic,Iguodala,Herro,Achuiwa, and Okpala total 42.9 million so that would be the starting salary for Leonard. We would have 9.7 million MLE but will be pressed up against the salary apron so the rest of the team will be filled with young players and vet minimums. I’m not even sure we would be able to use the MLE due to S&T hard cap restrictions. Seems rather complicated tbh. Dallas will also be able to put together an aggressive offer. I think he should just take his super max with the Clips and stay home. He’s given no indication he wants to leave other them the talking heads who’s job is to hype of free agency.

Sounds like a bad handicap to spend all those slots on one guy its not like we have Durant & Harden on the team to fill out the rest of the roster with mins vets and rookies ala Lebron, Wade, Bosh days.

[contract]

The gamble was way more risky one way then the other...

Will CP3 stay healthy after getting him for expiring's and very little assets(if any) and then actually building the roster as good as possible with NO 2021 cap space causing issues.
vs
hoping Giannis says no to signing a max then waiting a year to ask to be traded, and all the while letting the roster keep getting worse even after the team made the finals.

Sorry but I think there was nearly zero chance Giannis left Milwaukee before signing the max AND selecting Miami.

Your opinion. No way of knowing if CP3's health holds up last playoffs beyond the 1st round, and he's already had two different injuries these playoffs on top of catching covid (nerve injury R1, torn ligaments in shooting hand R3). If injuries to LeBron, AD, Kawhi, Ibaka don't occur then we're very likely looking at yet another fruitless CP3 season that's in some degree attributable to him once again getting injured in the playoffs

Welcome to the troll trap. Can't say I'm on this board every day. But everytime I am AirP is trying to bait people into letting him cry about the same stuff

At least he's talking about the team.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Kahwi would be making a terrible mistake if he left that Clippers team for us. That’s why i think the rumors are utterly bogus. Set up to make the Heat look bad when we miss again. He has free reign with them and Ballmer will no doubt spend to keep that team together and use the MLE paying massive luxury tax if he has too. The rumor about him having beef with the medical staff also sounds bogus. I feel like the owner would hire a new staff if Leonard requested it.The Clippers are his play hobby. He was so excited yesterday he gave two dudes sitting next to him hand jobs lol.