Miami Heat 22-23 Regular Season Thread 2.0

[MettaWorldPanda]

Also remember. No matter how many picks we have, just the Knicks themselves have like 12 picks, most of them probably better than any we have. And their are a few teams sitting on mountains of picks. What ever we want for picks, another team can outbid us, and would most likely not come with any negative assets attached, unlike us.

That’s why expectations on certain names getting thrown out here especially a Siakim or Anunoby need to be extremely tempered. That’s not to say we can’t end up with some quality but it’s more like a veteran coming up on an expiring like Vucevic or a Disgruntled young player and soon to be free agent DLO Russell. Maybe outside chance at John Collins.

[ShulaDon92]

Not worried about Jimmy yet. When I see him play I see the total package. I expect Dipo to be good.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not to be a downer, but I have very little faith in our org to get a guy who makes us contenders. They've got a proven track record of overpaying g leaguers and jettisoning draft picks. Our trash isn't going to be attractive to other teams.

We need a reset.

It won't happen.

Having said that.....go Heat!

Yea after last offseason I’ve lost all hope and faith in the front office, I just like talking about trades because it’s fun to think about the possibilities lol. I don’t have any faith they’re going to happen

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Also remember. No matter how many picks we have, just the Knicks themselves have like 12 picks, most of them probably better than any we have. And their are a few teams sitting on mountains of picks. What ever we want for picks, another team can outbid us, and would most likely not come with any negative assets attached, unlike us.

That’s why expectations on certain names getting thrown out here especially a Siakim or Anunoby need to be extremely tempered. That’s not to say we can’t end up with some quality but it’s more like a veteran coming up on an expiring like Vucevic or a Disgruntled young player and soon to be free agent DLO Russell. Maybe outside chance at John Collins.

Yea you could be right but to that point the Knicks could’ve easily beat the Cavs trade for Mitchell and didn’t. It’s just going to depend what asset teams are willing to come off of for these players and what players they’re even interested in.

You and I both know that unless some random superstar or younger all star appears the second OG or Siakam truly become available Riley is going to have his sights set on either of the 2 for better or worse lol

[DayofMourning]

Not to be a downer, but I have very little faith in our org to get a guy who makes us contenders. They've got a proven track record of overpaying g leaguers and jettisoning draft picks. Our trash isn't going to be attractive to other teams.

We need a reset.

It won't happen.

Having said that.....go Heat!

Yea after last offseason I’ve lost all hope and faith in the front office, I just like talking about trades because it’s fun to think about the possibilities lol. I don’t have any faith they’re going to happen

It's just a pattern of bad behavior. They've made several wow moves over the past 30 years so I won't complain too much. However, we've made some dumb chit moves on the regular that just phuck us. Just ream us man. Woy.

Like I said before, we have brainwashed ourselves into thinking that getting the star and then trying to fudge a team together is going to have it raining chips.

[SerialChiller]

Vucevic last night 19/18/10 with 2 blocks and 2 3s on 8/14 shooting. Bulls won though dammit....I want us to get him and Dragic so bad but looks unlikely lol. That passing with him and Bam as the 2 bigs would be insane.

I still think he’s a very realistic get but it’s going to cost us. Bulls gave up two picks 2021 and 2023 top 4 protected to get Vucevic along with a young prospect in Wendell Carter and a very useful Otto Porter. Bulls would probably love to get our 2023 pick to cover for them giving it up to Orlando. If we trade assets for Vucevic it needs to come with a 3 year extension. Probably like 3 for 60. Will save the team 10 million from what Lowry is making to ease up the tax burden.

I'm just thinking it probably won't happen because the Bulls have now went 7-3 in their last 10 and snuck up directly behind us at 9th and only 2 games back in the loss column. Looks like they might not be wanting to blow it up after starting to climb back up the standings.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Also remember. No matter how many picks we have, just the Knicks themselves have like 12 picks, most of them probably better than any we have. And their are a few teams sitting on mountains of picks. What ever we want for picks, another team can outbid us, and would most likely not come with any negative assets attached, unlike us.

That’s why expectations on certain names getting thrown out here especially a Siakim or Anunoby need to be extremely tempered. That’s not to say we can’t end up with some quality but it’s more like a veteran coming up on an expiring like Vucevic or a Disgruntled young player and soon to be free agent DLO Russell. Maybe outside chance at John Collins.

Yea you could be right but to that point the Knicks could’ve easily beat the Cavs trade for Mitchell and didn’t. It’s just going to depend what asset teams are willing to come off of for these players and what players they’re even interested in.

You and I both know that unless some random superstar or younger all star appears the second OG or Siakam truly become available Riley is going to have his sights set on either of the 2 for better or worse lol

It’s always for worse since Riley probably tries selling teams on Duncan as the greatest shooter in the world and Reggie Miller esque lol. Teams around the league are probably beaten down by the old used car schtick. Riley said if anyone wants to give them a star then his arms are wide open. The league just don’t want to do it so we are going to have to continue to home grow like with Bam and Herro while we hope someone ask to come here.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not to be a downer, but I have very little faith in our org to get a guy who makes us contenders. They've got a proven track record of overpaying g leaguers and jettisoning draft picks. Our trash isn't going to be attractive to other teams.

We need a reset.

It won't happen.

Having said that.....go Heat!

I actually think we have the scoring and star power we need. If Bam and Herro continue their play and we get super Jimmy in the playoffs again we’re golden but we need to add 2-3 high level role players and one of them needs to fill the hole we have at the 4 or 5

Yea after last offseason I’ve lost all hope and faith in the front office, I just like talking about trades because it’s fun to think about the possibilities lol. I don’t have any faith they’re going to happen

It's just a pattern of bad behavior. They've made several wow moves over the past 30 years so I won't complain too much. However, we've made some dumb chit moves on the regular that just phuck us. Just ream us man. Woy.

Like I said before, we have brainwashed ourselves into thinking that getting the star and then trying to fudge a team together is going to have it raining chips.

[ShulaDon92]

Bruisers are guys that wear guys down physically. At the end of the game you have more energy for quick scores

[3ammy3uck3ts]

That’s why expectations on certain names getting thrown out here especially a Siakim or Anunoby need to be extremely tempered. That’s not to say we can’t end up with some quality but it’s more like a veteran coming up on an expiring like Vucevic or a Disgruntled young player and soon to be free agent DLO Russell. Maybe outside chance at John Collins.

Yea you could be right but to that point the Knicks could’ve easily beat the Cavs trade for Mitchell and didn’t. It’s just going to depend what asset teams are willing to come off of for these players and what players they’re even interested in.

You and I both know that unless some random superstar or younger all star appears the second OG or Siakam truly become available Riley is going to have his sights set on either of the 2 for better or worse lol

It’s always for worse since Riley probably tries selling teams on Duncan as the greatest shooter in the world and Reggie Miller esque lol. Teams around the league are probably beaten down by the old used car schtick. Riley said if anyone wants to give them a star then his arms are wide open. The league just don’t want to do it so we are going to have to continue to home grow like with Bam and Herro while we hope someone ask to come here.

And the issue with that is we’re not even maximizing the growth of the home grown guys lol. No Herro and we still have Bam deferring to Strus while were giving up the lead when he’s shooting 67% from the field and the jump shot is falling

[MettaWorldPanda]

Bruisers are guys that wear guys down physically. At the end of the game you have more energy for quick scores

This team definitely needs bruisers. Not sure why the Heat organization decided to mirror the Mike D'Antoni approach. Team last year had the right idea with Tucker and Markieff Morris before he got hurt. Then we reverted back to 6'5 200 pound Martin and 6'5 220 Strus at PF. We were down so bad this offseason we didn't even make a play for the 6'9 230 Kyle Anderson who's actually playing decent with the Wolves who are overloaded with bigs.

[ShulaDon92]

Bruisers are guys that wear guys down physically. At the end of the game you have more energy for quick scores

This team definitely needs bruisers. Not sure why the Heat organization decided to mirror the Mike D'Antoni approach. Team last year had the right idea with Tucker and Markieff Morris before he got hurt. Then we reverted back to 6'5 200 pound Martin and 6'5 220 Strus at PF. We were down so bad this offseason we didn't even make a play for the 6'9 230 Kyle Anderson who's actually playing decent with the Wolves who are overloaded with bigs.

Herro- finesse
Jimmy- not a bruiser
Bam- finesse

You see how our core needs help. Our core component is elite speed, slashing and shooting and bams athleticism.

We need to compliment those guys with physicality and then more shooting is always a plus.

We're not that far, maybe. Yurtseven?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Bruisers are guys that wear guys down physically. At the end of the game you have more energy for quick scores

This team definitely needs bruisers. Not sure why the Heat organization decided to mirror the Mike D'Antoni approach. Team last year had the right idea with Tucker and Markieff Morris before he got hurt. Then we reverted back to 6'5 200 pound Martin and 6'5 220 Strus at PF. We were down so bad this offseason we didn't even make a play for the 6'9 230 Kyle Anderson who's actually playing decent with the Wolves who are overloaded with bigs.

Herro- finesse
Jimmy- not a bruiser
Bam- finesse

You see how our core needs help. Our core component is elite speed, slashing and shooting and bams athleticism.

We need to compliment those guys with physicality and then more shooting is always a plus.

We're not that far, maybe. Yurtseven?

Yurt is nothing more then a backup on this team because I just don't see at his size Spo using him with Bam for long stretches. We need two viable bigs that Spo will play with Bam at all times. Felt like we were moving in the right direction last year with Tucker and Markieff. Before Markieff got hurt he was in the lineup plenty with Bam and it brought a nastiness to the front court. Markieff was also not a liability on defense at 6'9 250 he could move and hit the corner 3. Shame it did not work out. Think his brother Marcus Morris would be the ideal fit here but not sure if the bridge with his brother was burned with the way the injury and benching when he came back was handled.

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[ShulaDon92]

The Celtics of Garnett/Allen/Pierce is a good comparison for Bam/Herro/Jimmy from my viewpoint.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Reports are that right now OG and Siakams asking price is too high, let’s see if that changes at all the closer we get to the deadline.

I’d be shocked if Riley isn’t blowing up Masai every day and offering Duncan Jovic and a 1st for OG as a starting point. He might even be asking about Siakam depending on how big of a splash he’s trying to make

[MettaWorldPanda]

Reports are that right now OG and Siakams asking price is too high, let’s see if that changes at all the closer we get to the deadline.

I’d be shocked if Riley isn’t blowing up Masai every day and offering Duncan Jovic and a 1st for OG as a starting point. He might even be asking about Siakam depending on how big of a splash he’s trying to make

Masai has probably had enough of Riley and most likely hangs up the moment he hears Duncan cross the phone line.

[SerialChiller]

Where ICC at?

[ShulaDon92]

This team definitely needs bruisers. Not sure why the Heat organization decided to mirror the Mike D'Antoni approach. Team last year had the right idea with Tucker and Markieff Morris before he got hurt. Then we reverted back to 6'5 200 pound Martin and 6'5 220 Strus at PF. We were down so bad this offseason we didn't even make a play for the 6'9 230 Kyle Anderson who's actually playing decent with the Wolves who are overloaded with bigs.

Herro- finesse
Jimmy- not a bruiser
Bam- finesse

You see how our core needs help. Our core component is elite speed, slashing and shooting and bams athleticism.

We need to compliment those guys with physicality and then more shooting is always a plus.

We're not that far, maybe. Yurtseven?

Yurt is nothing more then a backup on this team because I just don't see at his size Spo using him with Bam for long stretches. We need two viable bigs that Spo will play with Bam at all times. Felt like we were moving in the right direction last year with Tucker and Markieff. Before Markieff got hurt he was in the lineup plenty with Bam and it brought a nastiness to the front court. Markieff was also not a liability on defense at 6'9 250 he could move and hit the corner 3. Shame it did not work out. Think his brother Marcus Morris would be the ideal fit here but not sure if the bridge with his brother was burned with the way the injury and benching when he came back was handled.

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Yes, exactly that. We need guys to compliment the starters. Our bench players are good if not inconsistent and perhaps stretched out too thin right now.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Herro- finesse
Jimmy- not a bruiser
Bam- finesse

You see how our core needs help. Our core component is elite speed, slashing and shooting and bams athleticism.

We need to compliment those guys with physicality and then more shooting is always a plus.

We're not that far, maybe. Yurtseven?

Yurt is nothing more then a backup on this team because I just don't see at his size Spo using him with Bam for long stretches. We need two viable bigs that Spo will play with Bam at all times. Felt like we were moving in the right direction last year with Tucker and Markieff. Before Markieff got hurt he was in the lineup plenty with Bam and it brought a nastiness to the front court. Markieff was also not a liability on defense at 6'9 250 he could move and hit the corner 3. Shame it did not work out. Think his brother Marcus Morris would be the ideal fit here but not sure if the bridge with his brother was burned with the way the injury and benching when he came back was handled.

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Yes, exactly that. We need guys to compliment the starters. Our bench players are good if not inconsistent and perhaps stretched out to thin right now.

I honestly have no issues including Caleb Martin in deals right now as I think it essentially saves Spo from himself if the incoming player is a big he's forced to play with Bam. With Caleb on the roster the temptation is just too high for Spo to continue to run him out at PF to prove that he's right. This same thing happened with DJJ.

[ShulaDon92]

Lol at "dirty work kinda guy"