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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1841 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:38 pm

jbsays wrote:Realistically, even with all of Zion's injury history and "work ethic" questions, what could Heat offer? Same as any deal. Other teams have more picks and better prospects.

If Heat had assets to get a deal done I think they would have already made one.

Ware, JJJ, 2030 and 2032 for Zion. The matching contracts would be Rozier and Anderson.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1842 » by SerialChiller » Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:56 pm

batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Read on Twitter


:lol: Ask out brother, I promise you it’s what’s best for the remainder of your career. They do not value you


This is basically Bam saying it’s Spo without saying it’s Spo by the way


Then trade his ass we could get a huge haul for a dude who has been carried by the schematic brilliance of Spo his entire career


:lol: :lol: :lol: people will say anything to prop up Spo good lord
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1843 » by Wiltside » Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:57 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Read on Twitter


Our best player is our 4th option, never change Spo.


Bam isn’t aggressive and never demands the ball or forces mismatches. He is the best role player in the NBA that’s his whole deal

We have a lot of great role players

Just need a real star


Doing what he’s told


3ammy, Bam lives in a blame free space in your head.

Didn’t score enough? Spo didn’t get him enough touches. Herro and Wiggins took too many shots.

Gets scored on? Was another players fault for being a weak defender. He has no help.

Hes the captain of this team. If the team stinks or if hes not getting the touches he should have, he’s been here long enough to have those conversations with Spo and the FO. He isn’t the cause of it all, but he’s not blameless.

Team as a whole has been whiffy af.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1844 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:16 pm

Wiltside wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
Bam isn’t aggressive and never demands the ball or forces mismatches. He is the best role player in the NBA that’s his whole deal

We have a lot of great role players

Just need a real star


Doing what he’s told


3ammy, Bam lives in a blame free space in your head.

Didn’t score enough? Spo didn’t get him enough touches. Herro and Wiggins took too many shots.

Gets scored on? Was another players fault for being a weak defender. He has no help.

Hes the captain of this team. If the team stinks or if hes not getting the touches he should have, he’s been here long enough to have those conversations with Spo and the FO. He isn’t the cause of it all, but he’s not blameless.

Team as a whole has been whiffy af.


That’s not true, I don’t care to say when he played bad. To start the season scoring wise he was **** as he was trying to find his way into the new offense. These last 2 games are simply on Spo and I think based on the 20+ games prior to that it holds enough weight and especially when you factor in the 1 game this season that Spo was actually forced to make him the first option scoring wise against the Cavs where he dominated.

And it’s not bad to say he should be getting 18-20 shots a night just like Herro should be while neither should be deferring to Andrew Wiggins of all people who has NEVER been an efficient scorer.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1845 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:22 pm

Can we really just end this non sense about Bam getting traded or asking out. How about we just concentrate on getting a stud PG and a complimentary scoring PF.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1846 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:34 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Can we really just end this non sense about Bam getting traded or asking out. How about we just concentrate on getting a stud PG and a complimentary scoring PF.


Because the FO has shown they can’t get it done
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Post#1847 » by DayofMourning » Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:36 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Can we really just end this non sense about Bam getting traded or asking out. How about we just concentrate on getting a stud PG and a complimentary scoring PF.


Fears and Fleming...?!

Everything is starting to align.

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1848 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:36 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Can we really just end this non sense about Bam getting traded or asking out. How about we just concentrate on getting a stud PG and a complimentary scoring PF.


Because the FO has shown they can’t get it done

Give them this offseason and draft. Things can change quickly
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1849 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Mar 15, 2025 11:10 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Can we really just end this non sense about Bam getting traded or asking out. How about we just concentrate on getting a stud PG and a complimentary scoring PF.


Because the FO has shown they can’t get it done

Give them this offseason and draft. Things can change quickly


I’ve been giving them until next offseason, until next trade deadline, etc. for 5 years now :lol:
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1850 » by SerialChiller » Sat Mar 15, 2025 11:15 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Because the FO has shown they can’t get it done

Give them this offseason and draft. Things can change quickly


I’ve been giving them until next offseason, until next trade deadline, etc. for 5 years now :lol:


Stay Tuned!
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1851 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:03 am

SerialChiller wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Give them this offseason and draft. Things can change quickly


I’ve been giving them until next offseason, until next trade deadline, etc. for 5 years now :lol:


Stay Tuned!


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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1852 » by batterybro42 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:44 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:Anyone know what the situation is with the OKC pick? If we trade for the pick, does that negate the ‘28 pick owed to charlotte? If so we need to do whatever we can to get that pick back

They will have a free and clear lotto pick from us in 2026 and good luck getting that pick back as they’ll Probably flip that for there next piece.


I think Miami will be much improved next season, this type of deal doesn’t last very long here. Big moves will need to be made

I do not expect Herro and Bam back one will be leaving us
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1853 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:06 am

batterybro42 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:Anyone know what the situation is with the OKC pick? If we trade for the pick, does that negate the ‘28 pick owed to charlotte? If so we need to do whatever we can to get that pick back

They will have a free and clear lotto pick from us in 2026 and good luck getting that pick back as they’ll Probably flip that for there next piece.


I think Miami will be much improved next season, this type of deal doesn’t last very long here. Big moves will need to be made

I do not expect Herro and Bam back one will be leaving us


We can only hope
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1854 » by VaDe255 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:52 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:They will have a free and clear lotto pick from us in 2026 and good luck getting that pick back as they’ll Probably flip that for there next piece.


I think Miami will be much improved next season, this type of deal doesn’t last very long here. Big moves will need to be made

I do not expect Herro and Bam back one will be leaving us


We can only hope


Yes, it's rough to watch Bam getting cooked by any half decent center, knowing he is up for 50m
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1855 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:55 am

Upcoming expiring contracts

Duncan Robinson 19 million ETO 9 million guaranteed(Potential for 10 million in cap savings)

Terry Rozier 26.5

Kyle Anderson 9.2 with team option for 2026

Kevin Love 4.1

Haywood Highsmith 5.6

Davion Mitchell (RFA saves 6.5 million) if they don’t tender him he becomes a free agent and immediately gets them under the tax line.

Potential tax savings next season that includes Alec Burks expiring is an estimated total of about 18.5 million between Duncan ETO, Mitchell non tender, and Burks expiring. Would give us access to full MLE and money to sign our draft picks and continue to stay under the tax.

Duncan Robinson- Highly doubt his contract is used in trade due to the needed cap savings his ETO provides. He either gets released and takes his 9 million guaranteed and tries to sign with another team or works out extension starting at 9 million. If he’s used in trade his contract becomes fully guaranteed.

Rozier, Anderson, HH, and Love equal about close to 45 million in matching true expiring contracts in 2026.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1856 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:06 am

VaDe255 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
I think Miami will be much improved next season, this type of deal doesn’t last very long here. Big moves will need to be made

I do not expect Herro and Bam back one will be leaving us


We can only hope


Yes, it's rough to watch Bam getting cooked by any half decent center, knowing he is up for 50m


I know, watching him lock up Embiid and Giannis in 4th quarters of playoff games/series to help lead us to huge wins makes me fuxking sick. Herro being out of the way really opened the team up to blossom for those runs
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1857 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:08 am

Huge win by the Spurs tonight, didn’t expect the Bulls to pass us until Monday
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1858 » by MartyConlonJr » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:08 am

If we waive Duncan, and he only has the 9 mill guaranteed, does that get distributed over the cap over 3 years? I know you can waive players and have their contract span years remaining +2 or whatever. Is that how this works? Even then I think it is the teams option whether to do that or not. Not sure we would want to take the option if it was there or not.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1859 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:09 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:If we waive Duncan, and he only has the 9 mill guaranteed, does that get distributed over the cap over 3 years? I know you can waive players and have their contract span years remaining +2 or whatever. Is that how this works? Even then I think it is the teams option whether to do that or not. Not sure we would want to take the option if it was there or not.


Waive and stretch provision is what you’re talking about, surely we won’t hinder future cap like that just to get off Duncan’s expiring deal
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1860 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:21 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:If we waive Duncan, and he only has the 9 mill guaranteed, does that get distributed over the cap over 3 years? I know you can waive players and have their contract span years remaining +2 or whatever. Is that how this works? Even then I think it is the teams option whether to do that or not. Not sure we would want to take the option if it was there or not.

Nope. He gets it all next year and we would get 10 million in cap space. He would be free to double dip in free agency after taking his 9 million. Or we could extend him for 3 or 4 years at around 8-9 million. One or the other we will be saving that 10 million off the cap and not trading him.

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