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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1841 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:56 pm

VaDe255 wrote:Only a true top-5 player could ever salvage the Bam/Herro core, they’re just too limited to lead a real contender but the reality is, Miami has no vehicle to actually get one.

They don’t have high draft picks, they don't have enough blue chip young talent to headline a major trade.
They’re stuck fishing in the second-tier star market while pretending they're still players for true superstars. They’re not.

Worse, the front office has crippled themselves for years with bad trades and constantly overpaying average players.
Massive deals for guys like Hassan Whiteside, Dion Waiters, James Johnson, Duncan Robinson, aging Kyle Lowry all of it tied up money and flexibility just to lock in mediocrity.
Instead of learning from it, they double down every time, clinging to players who aren’t good enough and killing any real path toward roster improvement.

This franchise has made it crystal clear: they'd rather stay "competitive" and mid forever than actually take the risks needed to build a real title team.

Spoelstra constantly putting lipstick on a pig and dragging flawed, average rosters to respectability only masks the real problems and makes it worse.
It gives the front office a false sense of validation, convincing them they don’t need to change anything while the foundation quietly rots underneath.

Prepare for another playin season next year, and probably another after that.
Maybe after a few more early exits and embarrassing finishes, they’ll finally realize Bam and Herro aren’t taking them anywhere.

But knowing the Heat, they’re too stubborn to rebuild, too scared to tank, and too addicted to mediocrity to truly fix it.
They'll cling to "Heat Culture" and pride themselves on "being competitive," while in reality, they’re just another team stuck in NBA purgatory year after year after year.

Depending on what they do in the offseason I might stop watching Heat games at all. It's too frustrating watching a product, which is just mid and has no direction.


Barry said last year or the year before that the Heat have won their championships and the higher ups are content just being a tough and competitive team. Championships seem to not be the top goal any more and the moves made or lack of moves made seem to back that
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1842 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:19 pm

Seeing the importance of elite playmaking, no bottom of the league level defenders, and great veteran play in this Pistons/Knicks game
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1843 » by VaDe255 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:44 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Seeing the importance of elite playmaking, no bottom of the league level defenders, and great veteran play in this Pistons/Knicks game


Neither Cade nor Brunson are good enough to win it all, not even close...
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Post#1844 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:50 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Seeing the importance of elite playmaking, no bottom of the league level defenders, and great veteran play in this Pistons/Knicks game


Neither Cade nor Brunson are good enough to win it all, not even close...


Cades 23 and improving, he very well could be a major contributor on a championship team if not the top guy on one of given the right roster. Brunsons just a flopping bitch so I agree but that’s not the point I was making lol
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1845 » by VaDe255 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:03 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Seeing the importance of elite playmaking, no bottom of the league level defenders, and great veteran play in this Pistons/Knicks game


Neither Cade nor Brunson are good enough to win it all, not even close...


Cades 23 and improving, he very well could be a major contributor on a championship team if not the top guy on one of given the right roster. Brunsons just a flopping bitch so I agree but that’s not the point I was making lol


I don't get your point.

Brunson and Cade aren't raising a contender's ceiling they're just raising the floor.
They make bad teams respectable, but they don’t make good teams great.

If you have a true top 5 player like prime Jimmy, you don’t want a ball-dominant sidekick, you want players who can space the floor, defend and complement him without needing tons of touches.

Brunson and Cade both need the ball to be effective and neither maximize a superstar (one reason Dallas didn't retain Brunson). They don’t elevate a true No. 1 they just get in the way.

Knicks have a ton of talent around Brunson, but they basically blew their load now and are probably just going to be locked into the 3-4 seed for a while.
Pistons are basically 5+ or playin team, they aren't close to be a real contender either.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1846 » by twix2500 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:48 pm

VaDe255 wrote:Only a true top-5 player could ever salvage the Bam/Herro core, they’re just too limited to lead a real contender but the reality is, Miami has no vehicle to actually get one.

They don’t have high draft picks, they don't have enough blue chip young talent to headline a major trade.
They’re stuck fishing in the second-tier star market while pretending they're still players for true superstars. They’re not.

Worse, the front office has crippled themselves for years with bad trades and constantly overpaying average players.
Massive deals for guys like Hassan Whiteside, Dion Waiters, James Johnson, Duncan Robinson, aging Kyle Lowry all of it tied up money and flexibility just to lock in mediocrity.
Instead of learning from it, they double down every time, clinging to players who aren’t good enough and killing any real path toward roster improvement.

This franchise has made it crystal clear: they'd rather stay "competitive" and mid forever than actually take the risks needed to build a real title team.

Spoelstra constantly putting lipstick on a pig and dragging flawed, average rosters to respectability only masks the real problems and makes it worse.
It gives the front office a false sense of validation, convincing them they don’t need to change anything while the foundation quietly rots underneath.

Prepare for another playin season next year, and probably another after that.
Maybe after a few more early exits and embarrassing finishes, they’ll finally realize Bam and Herro aren’t taking them anywhere.

But knowing the Heat, they’re too stubborn to rebuild, too scared to tank, and too addicted to mediocrity to truly fix it.
They'll cling to "Heat Culture" and pride themselves on "being competitive," while in reality, they’re just another team stuck in NBA purgatory year after year after year.

Depending on what they do in the offseason I might stop watching Heat games at all. It's too frustrating watching a product, which is just mid and has no direction.



The thing that this room seems to never accept is you do not build the roster than find a star that fits. The complementary players do not come first. The star comes then you build the roster around that star. Until you have a star no one is a keeper. Until someone steps up and show they are star to lead the team then everyone are trade chips to acquire that star.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1847 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:23 pm

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Post#1848 » by twix2500 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:10 am

Two player I think the Heat should target and that's Anthony Davis, Dalton Knecht and Lauri Markkanen
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1849 » by spectrec130 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:19 am

twix2500 wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:Only a true top-5 player could ever salvage the Bam/Herro core, they’re just too limited to lead a real contender but the reality is, Miami has no vehicle to actually get one.

They don’t have high draft picks, they don't have enough blue chip young talent to headline a major trade.
They’re stuck fishing in the second-tier star market while pretending they're still players for true superstars. They’re not.

Worse, the front office has crippled themselves for years with bad trades and constantly overpaying average players.
Massive deals for guys like Hassan Whiteside, Dion Waiters, James Johnson, Duncan Robinson, aging Kyle Lowry all of it tied up money and flexibility just to lock in mediocrity.
Instead of learning from it, they double down every time, clinging to players who aren’t good enough and killing any real path toward roster improvement.

This franchise has made it crystal clear: they'd rather stay "competitive" and mid forever than actually take the risks needed to build a real title team.

Spoelstra constantly putting lipstick on a pig and dragging flawed, average rosters to respectability only masks the real problems and makes it worse.
It gives the front office a false sense of validation, convincing them they don’t need to change anything while the foundation quietly rots underneath.

Prepare for another playin season next year, and probably another after that.
Maybe after a few more early exits and embarrassing finishes, they’ll finally realize Bam and Herro aren’t taking them anywhere.

But knowing the Heat, they’re too stubborn to rebuild, too scared to tank, and too addicted to mediocrity to truly fix it.
They'll cling to "Heat Culture" and pride themselves on "being competitive," while in reality, they’re just another team stuck in NBA purgatory year after year after year.

Depending on what they do in the offseason I might stop watching Heat games at all. It's too frustrating watching a product, which is just mid and has no direction.



The thing that this room seems to never accept is you do not build the roster than find a star that fits. The complementary players do not come first. The star comes then you build the roster around that star. Until you have a star no one is a keeper. Until someone steps up and show they are star to lead the team then everyone are trade chips to acquire that star.


Would "And1000" if i could..... Just don't get why this is soooo hard to comprehend.
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Post#1850 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:21 am

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Post#1852 » by twix2500 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:54 am

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Post#1853 » by Beenie » Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:00 am

twix2500 wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:Only a true top-5 player could ever salvage the Bam/Herro core, they’re just too limited to lead a real contender but the reality is, Miami has no vehicle to actually get one.

They don’t have high draft picks, they don't have enough blue chip young talent to headline a major trade.
They’re stuck fishing in the second-tier star market while pretending they're still players for true superstars. They’re not.

Worse, the front office has crippled themselves for years with bad trades and constantly overpaying average players.
Massive deals for guys like Hassan Whiteside, Dion Waiters, James Johnson, Duncan Robinson, aging Kyle Lowry all of it tied up money and flexibility just to lock in mediocrity.
Instead of learning from it, they double down every time, clinging to players who aren’t good enough and killing any real path toward roster improvement.

This franchise has made it crystal clear: they'd rather stay "competitive" and mid forever than actually take the risks needed to build a real title team.

Spoelstra constantly putting lipstick on a pig and dragging flawed, average rosters to respectability only masks the real problems and makes it worse.
It gives the front office a false sense of validation, convincing them they don’t need to change anything while the foundation quietly rots underneath.

Prepare for another playin season next year, and probably another after that.
Maybe after a few more early exits and embarrassing finishes, they’ll finally realize Bam and Herro aren’t taking them anywhere.

But knowing the Heat, they’re too stubborn to rebuild, too scared to tank, and too addicted to mediocrity to truly fix it.
They'll cling to "Heat Culture" and pride themselves on "being competitive," while in reality, they’re just another team stuck in NBA purgatory year after year after year.

Depending on what they do in the offseason I might stop watching Heat games at all. It's too frustrating watching a product, which is just mid and has no direction.



The thing that this room seems to never accept is you do not build the roster than find a star that fits. The complementary players do not come first. The star comes then you build the roster around that star. Until you have a star no one is a keeper. Until someone steps up and show they are star to lead the team then everyone are trade chips to acquire that star.


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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1854 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:38 am

Potential is sky high for Banchero if he can put it all together but man he’s a chucker and doesn’t play a lick of defense. Wagner is their best and most impactful player. They need to tinker Bancheros shot diet/selection this summer and get him to start playing defense.

Hopefully Bam and Herro take a page out of his book and shoot 30+ shots, might as well go out swinging.
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Post#1855 » by twix2500 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:27 am

I was making a clip of Herro on offense last game and man the offense as whole is just horrible. Made me quit and want to go to sleep
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Post#1857 » by insfo » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:26 am

twix2500 wrote:Two player I think the Heat should target and that's Anthony Davis, Dalton Knecht and Lauri Markkanen


That’s 3!
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Post#1858 » by Enso » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:10 am

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That has to be fake lol

If not that’s gross
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Post#1859 » by marson » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:20 am

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That has to be fake lol

If not that’s gross


This is from the Athletics article.

Honestly, I was surprised by Tyler too. I just think it ultimately shows that the lights are too bright for Bam and Herro to fully take the mantle.

We need a true 1A, but the problem is we won't be getting one anytime soon since we keep positioning ourselves outside of the lottery. That leaves us with only one real option: trading one of them along with our young guys and picks.

The best thing happened was matching up against the number one seed again in back-to-back playoffs and seeing if Herro and Bam can step up and prove they’re ready to lead. But they're failing so far and not even giving us a glimpse of hope.

I predict one of Herro or Bam gets traded this offseason.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1860 » by contract » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:13 am

marson wrote:I predict one of Herro or Bam gets traded this offseason.

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