2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[al bondiga]

Going " all in" Given all the circumstances that surround us And what the heat is right now, Is very characteristic of Pat Riley And what he has done in the past

This is the typical moment

[CWebb2491]

A trade of

Wiggins (who can be worked into a 3 team trade w Lakers to have a 1st sent to Milwaukee)
Rozier (expiring)
Ware
Jaquez
Kasparas
3 firsts (2 firsts plus Lakers 1st)
For

Giannis
Portis

Is as good an offer and as big of a contender as any….

Works w salary cap implications

Bam Portis
Giannis Jovic
Powell Fontechio
Herro Larson
Mitchell Smith

Plus buy out players like Middleton/Lopez is the best team in the East.o

Would be ideal to add an athletic 3 and D wing with size.

But that team would provide Elite 3 pt shooting for Giannis. Herro ,Powell, Fontechio, Smith, Mitchell, Larson and even Bam would be Fed open 3’s I’d imagine their percentages would only improve.

[He2Fast]

Davion
Norm
Kawhi
Giannis
Bam

Stay tuned.

Yeesh. What a 5 man group.

[SA37]

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Making an offer for Giannis is a no-brainer and it would be negligent for any franchise with a puncher's chance to not give Milwaukee a call.

Ja, Kawhi, Trae Young, Anthony Davis, Sabonis, and Zion are the next tier of guys and all of them come with big red flags and risk. Then you get into the next tier of guys, like DeRozan, Lavine, Vucevic, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Monk...etc.

I'm not against Miami taking a chance on Morant if they're not comfortable giving Herro a big extension. Herro, Jovic, and a 1st would be a reasonable offer.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

A trade of

Wiggins (who can be worked into a 3 team trade w Lakers to have a 1st sent to Milwaukee)
Rozier (expiring)
Ware
Jaquez
Kasparas
3 firsts (2 firsts plus Lakers 1st)
For

Giannis
Portis

Is as good an offer and as big of a contender as any….

Works w salary cap implications

Bam Portis
Giannis Jovic
Powell Fontechio
Herro Larson
Mitchell Smith

Plus buy out players like Middleton/Lopez is the best team in the East.o

Would be ideal to add an athletic 3 and D wing with size.

But that team would provide Elite 3 pt shooting for Giannis. Herro ,Powell, Fontechio, Smith, Mitchell, Larson and even Bam would be Fed open 3’s I’d imagine their percentages would only improve.

That’s a crazy amount of shooting around Giannis lol idk if it’d be possible but that’d be awesome if so. Middleton/Lopez reunion with Giannis in Miami on the buyout market would be cool to see also, they’re borderline washed but I think you can trust them in a playoff setting with their experience

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So agree to a trade with Terry going out THEN the league can tell us yes or no on our ability to trade his contract? Then if they say no now we’d have to make a decision on if we wanted to include Wiggins instead for salary purposes? Thats a pretty big swing in level of production going from needing to include Terry to now Wiggins. I don’t see why the league can’t just tell us

[twix2500]

IMO the League should allow a rule to take place similar to Bosh situation when he was forced into retirement. Bosh got all of his salary but his money didnt count against the cap. Rozier money should be kept in an escrow account, meaning the Heat paid his salary. It would be up to the league to make a decision on transferring that money to Rozier or back to the Heat. The Heat should be given the cap space so they can continue running the business. This would allow the Heat's ability to run their business and payment to Rozier be separated. Because one thing for sure is that Rozier is not playing for the Heat.

[SA37]

So agree to a trade with Terry going out THEN the league can tell us yes or no on our ability to trade his contract? Then if they say no now we’d have to make a decision on if we wanted to include Wiggins instead for salary purposes? Thats a pretty big swing in level of production going from needing to include Terry to now Wiggins. I don’t see why the league can’t just tell us

From ESPN:

Miami can file a grievance with the league for not being informed about the investigation before the trade. Sources told ESPN that the Heat haven't decided. Despite the trade occurring nearly two years ago, no statute of limitations exists on filing a grievance.

One complicating factor is that trade has not been fully completed. The 2027 lottery-protected first-round pick -- it would become a 2028 unprotected first-rounder if the Heat miss the playoffs in 2027 -- has yet to convey, leaving something for the Heat to potentially fight to regain. But multiple sources across the league told ESPN they see no path to Miami winning a grievance with the league over this trade.

Miami, because of various past deals, can't trade any of its first-round picks from 2026 through 2029. Because of the Stepien Rule, which prevents teams from trading first-round picks from consecutive seasons, the Heat can trade a maximum of two first-rounders (2030 and 2032) in the lead-up to the Feb. 5 trade deadline. (Miami can trade pick swaps from up to four other seasons through 2031.)

Sources told ESPN that it remains unclear what would happen if the Heat were to try to trade Rozier before the Feb. 5 trade deadline....Though there isn't guidance from the NBA as to whether the Heat could move Rozier, the fact that he is still on the roster is a sign the Heat believe it is a possibility. And there is precedent to believe that.

Kevin Porter Jr. was arrested in September 2023 and charged with assault and strangulation, but was traded a month later to the Oklahoma City Thunder, who immediately waived him. A similar situation could play out with Rozier.

Sources expect that, if the Heat got close to trading Rozier, only then would Miami ask the league for clarity on whether such a trade would be allowed.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/47229222/terry-rozier-investigation-shines-spotlight-nba-trade-protocols-heat-hornets

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So agree to a trade with Terry going out THEN the league can tell us yes or no on our ability to trade his contract? Then if they say no now we’d have to make a decision on if we wanted to include Wiggins instead for salary purposes? Thats a pretty big swing in level of production going from needing to include Terry to now Wiggins. I don’t see why the league can’t just tell us

From ESPN:

Miami can file a grievance with the league for not being informed about the investigation before the trade. Sources told ESPN that the Heat haven't decided. Despite the trade occurring nearly two years ago, no statute of limitations exists on filing a grievance.

One complicating factor is that trade has not been fully completed. The 2027 lottery-protected first-round pick -- it would become a 2028 unprotected first-rounder if the Heat miss the playoffs in 2027 -- has yet to convey, leaving something for the Heat to potentially fight to regain. But multiple sources across the league told ESPN they see no path to Miami winning a grievance with the league over this trade.

Miami, because of various past deals, can't trade any of its first-round picks from 2026 through 2029. Because of the Stepien Rule, which prevents teams from trading first-round picks from consecutive seasons, the Heat can trade a maximum of two first-rounders (2030 and 2032) in the lead-up to the Feb. 5 trade deadline. (Miami can trade pick swaps from up to four other seasons through 2031.)

Sources told ESPN that it remains unclear what would happen if the Heat were to try to trade Rozier before the Feb. 5 trade deadline....Though there isn't guidance from the NBA as to whether the Heat could move Rozier, the fact that he is still on the roster is a sign the Heat believe it is a possibility. And there is precedent to believe that.

Kevin Porter Jr. was arrested in September 2023 and charged with assault and strangulation, but was traded a month later to the Oklahoma City Thunder, who immediately waived him. A similar situation could play out with Rozier.

Sources expect that, if the Heat got close to trading Rozier, only then would Miami ask the league for clarity on whether such a trade would be allowed.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/47229222/terry-rozier-investigation-shines-spotlight-nba-trade-protocols-heat-hornets

Oh ok nice, based on the KPJ incident it looks like we should be able to trade him. That’s huge if true

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If he’s still on the roster and we’re paying him like hes on the roster, we should be allowed to trade him. Every team is also now clearly aware of what’s going on with him (unfortunately we weren’t)

[Daffy]

A trade of

Wiggins (who can be worked into a 3 team trade w Lakers to have a 1st sent to Milwaukee)
Rozier (expiring)
Ware
Jaquez
Kasparas
3 firsts (2 firsts plus Lakers 1st)
For

Giannis
Portis

Is as good an offer and as big of a contender as any….

Works w salary cap implications

Bam Portis
Giannis Jovic
Powell Fontechio
Herro Larson
Mitchell Smith

Plus buy out players like Middleton/Lopez is the best team in the East.o

Would be ideal to add an athletic 3 and D wing with size.

But that team would provide Elite 3 pt shooting for Giannis. Herro ,Powell, Fontechio, Smith, Mitchell, Larson and even Bam would be Fed open 3’s I’d imagine their percentages would only improve.

That’s a crazy amount of shooting around Giannis lol idk if it’d be possible but that’d be awesome if so. Middleton/Lopez reunion with Giannis in Miami on the buyout market would be cool to see also, they’re borderline washed but I think you can trust them in a playoff setting with their experience

That's a dream. You're not getting Giannis without giving up Herro or Bam. I'd honestly believe they'd want Larson as well in a package.

[Daffy]

If he’s still on the roster and we’re paying him like hes on the roster, we should be allowed to trade him. Every team is also now clearly aware of what’s going on with him (unfortunately we weren’t)

I agree with this 100%. If he's on the roster and being paid as if he's contributing we should 100% be able to trade him. It would be complete BS and unfair to handicap us when we didn't even know of the investigation to begin with.

[MartyCONLONNN]

Stein reporting that Bucks are shutting down calls for Giannis, saying he's not available to trade. Means 1 of 2 things:

1) They are working with 1-3 teams that are being asked to keep it completely in the dark.

2) They don't like the offers, Giannis hasn't officially asked, or they just refuse to put him on the market & believe with KPJ and Rollins surprising play they might as well just go for it and trade him in offseason if it crumbles. They stand to lose significant value waiting but wouldn't blame them for 1 final hail mary.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Stein reporting that Bucks are shutting down calls for Giannis, saying he's not available to trade. Means 1 of 2 things:

1) They are working with 1-3 teams that are being asked to keep it completely in the dark.

2) They don't like the offers, Giannis hasn't officially asked, or they just refuse to put him on the market & believe with KPJ and Rollins surprising play they might as well just go for it and trade him in offseason if it crumbles. They stand to lose significant value waiting but wouldn't blame them for 1 final hail mary.

Apparently they are not trading him until they get the request from Giannis himself

[MartyCONLONNN]

Stein reporting that Bucks are shutting down calls for Giannis, saying he's not available to trade. Means 1 of 2 things:

1) They are working with 1-3 teams that are being asked to keep it completely in the dark.

2) They don't like the offers, Giannis hasn't officially asked, or they just refuse to put him on the market & believe with KPJ and Rollins surprising play they might as well just go for it and trade him in offseason if it crumbles. They stand to lose significant value waiting but wouldn't blame them for 1 final hail mary.

Apparently they are not trading him until they get the request from Giannis himself

I'm dubious he hasn't given them an idea of where he's at. He wanted out and thats the only reason they talked to the Knicks. Could be so wrong about this but if these discussions with his agent started then it's hard to imagine the FO is in the dark... at the very least they'd be asking his camp for clarity because it's not like Giannis is making a firm "I'm not going anywhere statement" which would be so easy to do lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Stein reporting that Bucks are shutting down calls for Giannis, saying he's not available to trade. Means 1 of 2 things:

1) They are working with 1-3 teams that are being asked to keep it completely in the dark.

2) They don't like the offers, Giannis hasn't officially asked, or they just refuse to put him on the market & believe with KPJ and Rollins surprising play they might as well just go for it and trade him in offseason if it crumbles. They stand to lose significant value waiting but wouldn't blame them for 1 final hail mary.

Apparently they are not trading him until they get the request from Giannis himself

I'm dubious he hasn't given them an idea of where he's at. He wanted out and thats the only reason they talked to the Knicks. Could be so wrong about this but if these discussions with his agent started then it's hard to imagine the FO is in the dark... at the very least they'd be asking his camp for clarity because it's not like Giannis is making a firm "I'm not going anywhere statement" which would be so easy to do lol

I’m wondering when this “meeting” is supposed to be

[SA37]

If he’s still on the roster and we’re paying him like hes on the roster, we should be allowed to trade him. Every team is also now clearly aware of what’s going on with him (unfortunately we weren’t)

I agree with this 100%. If he's on the roster and being paid as if he's contributing we should 100% be able to trade him. It would be complete BS and unfair to handicap us when we didn't even know of the investigation to begin with.

The NBA could always argue they're doing Miami a favor by keeping him off the court...

On a more serious note, I read at some point Rozier wasn't getting paid and the NBPA filed a motion to make sure he continued to get paid. I don't remember seeing/reading anything where this was resolved. So I don't know if he is getting paid, if Miami is paying into an escrow fund or what.

[twix2500]

If he’s still on the roster and we’re paying him like hes on the roster, we should be allowed to trade him. Every team is also now clearly aware of what’s going on with him (unfortunately we weren’t)

I agree with this 100%. If he's on the roster and being paid as if he's contributing we should 100% be able to trade him. It would be complete BS and unfair to handicap us when we didn't even know of the investigation to begin with.

The NBA could always argue they're doing Miami a favor by keeping him off the court...

On a more serious note, I read at some point Rozier wasn't getting paid and the NBPA filed a motion to make sure he continued to get paid. I don't remember seeing/reading anything where this was resolved. So I don't know if he is getting paid, if Miami is paying into an escrow fund or what.

They are putting his money in an escrow account.

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