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Post#1863 » by contract » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:17 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:I still understand the Miami Heat front office and why they approached Wade that way. They saw the opportunity to give Wade what Riley THOUGHT he wanted, which was to keep a competitive team around him.

It's perfectly understandable that Pat would be confused about what Wade wanted to be paid, because it's not like agents communicate that type of information to front offices. But discovering his error, Pat turned right around and paid Wade, right?

Here's an alternate theory. It's a little complicated, but I think it makes sense. Pat didn't pay Wade because he didn't want to pay Wade.
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Post#1864 » by twix2500 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:22 am

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MartyConlonJr wrote:I still understand the Miami Heat front office and why they approached Wade that way. They saw the opportunity to give Wade what Riley THOUGHT he wanted, which was to keep a competitive team around him.

It's perfectly understandable that Pat would be confused about what Wade wanted to be paid, because it's not like agents communicate that type of information to front offices. But discovering his error, Pat turned right around and paid Wade, right?

Here's an alternate theory. It's a little complicated, but I think it makes sense. Pat didn't pay Wade because he didn't want to pay Wade.


Actually no, the amt that Wade got from the Bulls was not what he wanted from the Heat. Wade still got less than what he was looking for. He only got two mill more from the bulls than what the Heat offered. He went to the Bulls because he felt disrespected from Miami by not getting a fare well max contract and that the Heat didnt contact him first instead of Whiteside and it was a chance to go home like he has always wanted to do.

Heat offered 20 mill per and he got 22 or 23 from the Bulls.
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Post#1865 » by contract » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:26 am

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MartyConlonJr wrote:I still understand the Miami Heat front office and why they approached Wade that way. They saw the opportunity to give Wade what Riley THOUGHT he wanted, which was to keep a competitive team around him.

It's perfectly understandable that Pat would be confused about what Wade wanted to be paid, because it's not like agents communicate that type of information to front offices. But discovering his error, Pat turned right around and paid Wade, right?

Here's an alternate theory. It's a little complicated, but I think it makes sense. Pat didn't pay Wade because he didn't want to pay Wade.


Actually no, the amt that Wade got from the Bulls was not what he wanted from the Heat. Wade still got less than what he was looking for. He only got two mill more from the bulls than what the Heat offered. He went to the Bulls because he felt disrespected from Miami by not getting a fare well max contract and that the Heat didnt contact him first instead of Whiteside and it was a chance to go home like he has always wanted to do.

I didn't mention the Bulls.
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Post#1866 » by twix2500 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:27 am

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contract wrote:It's perfectly understandable that Pat would be confused about what Wade wanted to be paid, because it's not like agents communicate that type of information to front offices. But discovering his error, Pat turned right around and paid Wade, right?

Here's an alternate theory. It's a little complicated, but I think it makes sense. Pat didn't pay Wade because he didn't want to pay Wade.


Actually no, the amt that Wade got from the Bulls was not what he wanted from the Heat. Wade still got less than what he was looking for. He only got two mill more from the bulls than what the Heat offered. He went to the Bulls because he felt disrespected from Miami by not getting a fare well max contract and that the Heat didnt contact him first instead of Whiteside and it was a chance to go home like he has always wanted to do.

I didn't mention the Bulls.


What do you mean by the Heat turned around and paid Wade?
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Post#1868 » by contract » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:41 am

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Actually no, the amt that Wade got from the Bulls was not what he wanted from the Heat. Wade still got less than what he was looking for. He only got two mill more from the bulls than what the Heat offered. He went to the Bulls because he felt disrespected from Miami by not getting a fare well max contract and that the Heat didnt contact him first instead of Whiteside and it was a chance to go home like he has always wanted to do.

I didn't mention the Bulls.


What do you mean by the Heat turned around and paid Wade?

It was sarcasm. It was a response to the narrative that Pat was just trying to do what he thought Wade wanted.
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Post#1869 » by lastb1ckman » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:42 am

I'm always gonna be glad he came back and finished here but tbh Wade wasn't worth the contract the Bulls paid him.....Same for the Cavs.....that's why he didn't stick there.
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Post#1870 » by contract » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:49 am

lastb1ckman wrote:I'm always gonna be glad he came back and finished here but tbh Wade wasn't worth the contract the Bulls paid him.....Same for the Cavs.....that's why he didn't stick there.

He was on a minimum deal with the Cavs. That's why the Heat traded for him.
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Post#1871 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:56 am

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Last part leads me to believe the warriors have been aggressive


If there has been a decision made, which I have a feeling there has been. Yes, Warriors would be the ideal team. IMO then the Heat can work on making the next two or three moves. If the Heat can get what I think they can get. Me personally would make the move for Ingram (Heat wants) and Cameron Johnson (I want) or Dorian Finney-Smith (3ammy wants).

Small tibit, the Heat was trying to acquire Kheldon Johnson last year. I didnt know why because of having Butler and Jaquez but now it makes sense.

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They liked Keldon coming out of the draft and he’s also good friends with Tyler Herro. Also Kentucky ties with Bam. Would be good locker room addition.
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Post#1872 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:57 am

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Post#1873 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:13 am

Wade was worth whatever he wanted. Pat should’ve bent over and grabbed his ankles and said “yes daddy” to whatever Wade asked for
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Post#1874 » by Shewasfly » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:19 am

All of the chatter has been over the top to begin with. This season, especially with so many teams selling, we are more likely to finally be able to fill out the roster with actual NBA level depth.

Sexton
Herro
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Bam

Is nothing to sniff at, especially considering the step up Herro has taken, and just the continuity with the core.

Not saying whether going all in is going to prove to produce any better results in the playoffs, but in the immediate term it makes way more sense than moving Jimmy for pennies on the dollar. The same contending teams that might want to trade for Jimmy now won't have that much more cap space to get a deal done on their own without trading with us during the summer. Their **** offers should still be there. So riding it out is def still an option.
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Post#1875 » by SerialChiller » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:20 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Wade was worth whatever he wanted. Pat should’ve bent over and grabbed his ankles and said “yes daddy” to whatever Wade asked for


Yep besides everything he's done he'd also left money on the table as well and was never the top payed player on the team. He was owed the money and respect that he didn't get and caused him to leave.
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Post#1876 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:23 am

Shewasfly wrote:All of the chatter has been over the top to begin with. This season, especially with so many teams selling, we are more likely to finally be able to fill out the roster with actual NBA level depth.

Sexton
Herro
Jimmy
Collins
Bam

Is nothing to sniff at, especially considering the step up Herro has taken, and just the continuity with the core.

Not saying whether going all in is going to prove to produce any better results in the playoffs, but in the immediate term it makes way more sense than moving Jimmy for pennies on the dollar. The same contending teams that might want to trade for Jimmy now won't have that much more cap space to get a deal done on their own without trading with us during the summer. Their **** offers should still be there. So riding it out is def still an option.

I can ride with this lineup ROS without a doubt
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Post#1877 » by BBallFreak » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:24 am

Shewasfly wrote:All of the chatter has been over the top to begin with. This season, especially with so many teams selling, we are more likely to finally be able to fill out the roster with actual NBA level depth.

Sexton
Herro
Jimmy
Collins
Bam

Is nothing to sniff at, especially considering the step up Herro has taken, and just the continuity with the core.

Not saying whether going all in is going to prove to produce any better results in the playoffs, but in the immediate term it makes way more sense than moving Jimmy for pennies on the dollar. The same contending teams that might want to trade for Jimmy now won't have that much more cap space to get a deal done on their own without trading with us during the summer. Their **** offers should still be there. So riding it out is def still an option.

Sexton presents the exact same problem as Rozier, though. His game is very similar to Herro's. They're not a good fit. I like the idea of Collins and have for a while now, but I don't see Sexton as being the right fit.
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Post#1878 » by Shewasfly » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:36 am

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Shewasfly wrote:All of the chatter has been over the top to begin with. This season, especially with so many teams selling, we are more likely to finally be able to fill out the roster with actual NBA level depth.

Sexton
Herro
Jimmy
Collins
Bam

Is nothing to sniff at, especially considering the step up Herro has taken, and just the continuity with the core.

Not saying whether going all in is going to prove to produce any better results in the playoffs, but in the immediate term it makes way more sense than moving Jimmy for pennies on the dollar. The same contending teams that might want to trade for Jimmy now won't have that much more cap space to get a deal done on their own without trading with us during the summer. Their **** offers should still be there. So riding it out is def still an option.

Sexton presents the exact same problem as Rozier, though. His game is very similar to Herro's. They're not a good fit. I like the idea of Collins and have for a while now, but I don't see Sexton as being the right fit.


Isn't Sexton a superior defender though? I think that and his ability to slash would be the appeal.

Tbh, I could also see them going after Clarkson instead. He and Herro are buddies. It'd be super funny and very post-Wade Heat if we ended up getting one of Herro's buddies before Bam's.

Clarkson
Herro
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But Clarkson is even more similar to Herro, so don't think there's a way to avoid that with either trade with the Jazz.
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Post#1879 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:43 am

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Post#1880 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:53 am

Shewasfly wrote:
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Shewasfly wrote:All of the chatter has been over the top to begin with. This season, especially with so many teams selling, we are more likely to finally be able to fill out the roster with actual NBA level depth.

Sexton
Herro
Jimmy
Collins
Bam

Is nothing to sniff at, especially considering the step up Herro has taken, and just the continuity with the core.

Not saying whether going all in is going to prove to produce any better results in the playoffs, but in the immediate term it makes way more sense than moving Jimmy for pennies on the dollar. The same contending teams that might want to trade for Jimmy now won't have that much more cap space to get a deal done on their own without trading with us during the summer. Their **** offers should still be there. So riding it out is def still an option.

Sexton presents the exact same problem as Rozier, though. His game is very similar to Herro's. They're not a good fit. I like the idea of Collins and have for a while now, but I don't see Sexton as being the right fit.


Isn't Sexton a superior defender though? I think that and his ability to slash would be the appeal.

Tbh, I could also see them going after Clarkson instead. He and Herro are buddies. It'd be super funny and very post-Wade Heat if we ended up getting one of Herro's buddies before Bam's.

Clarkson
Herro
Jimmy
Collins
Bam

But Clarkson is even more similar to Herro, so don't think there's a way to avoid that with either trade with the Jazz.

I could definitely see Spo trying to make this backcourt work. Herro is friends with Clarkson and also filipino connection with Spo

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