2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

we better not get Westbrook

We’re getting KD Westbrook AND Harden

[Wiltside]

we better not get Westbrook

We’re getting KD Westbrook AND Harden

That’d be cool. In 2015.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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The jig is up, The Godfather loses again.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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The jig is up, The Godfather loses again.

It changes everyday. Remember these talking heads won’t give the Heat the time of day and look to throw water on them anytime momentum builds for them. If it wasn’t for Shams detailing the talks the Heat are having with the Suns they would not even be mentioning us. Now the talks have swung too we have garbage to offer. We have the best offer unless another team decides they want to gut their squad or give up key young pieces they didn’t want to at first. Houston is the true threat with the FVV contract. Suns need cap relief. Plain and simple. They won’t be able to fix there situation until they get out of the repeater. They need expiring contracts and young cheap talent. They also need easy contracts to flip to a cap space team to make this happen. Rozier and Duncan might be junk but they’re easy contracts for a team like BK to absorb due to 12 million combined in non guaranteed money.

[Beenie]

Herro is just a **** moron, you can’t fix that.

FO obsession with him likely cost us a championship in the Jimmy era and he’s done nothing to warrant such a standing within the organization

Bam and Goran getting hurt in the bubble cost us a championship ironically when Herro's rookie year made him very valuable in a trade and at the time most fans of Heat didn't want to trade him. Giving an old and small point guard 85 million dollars likely cost the team a championship. That money certainly could've better used elsewhere instead of making Lowry your 2nd or third highest paid player depending on the year. Holding on to a low cost scorer making less than 5 mil per year when he had our best teams did not. Point to the low lottery pick and not the decision to acquire Kyle Lowry and pay him 7 times more per year?

Bam n Goran getting hurt doesn’t explain away Spo’s zone D getting hammered by the Lakers or playoff Rondo seemingly unable to miss a shot along with several of their other role players who got hot from beyond the arc, nor does it factor in AD getting hurt himself and playing hobbled

Mia wasn’t gonna win that series no matter what is the truth

Jimmy going nuclear is the only reason why people sometimes entertain this take but it still would have been an uphill battle if all players on both teams were healthy

[DayofMourning]

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The jig is up, The Godfather loses again.

It changes everyday. Remember these talking heads won’t give the Heat the time of day and look to throw water on them anytime momentum builds for them. If it wasn’t for Shams detailing the talks the Heat are having with the Suns they would not even be mentioning us. Now the talks have swung too we have garbage to offer. We have the best offer unless another team decides they want to gut their squad or give up key young pieces they didn’t want to at first. Houston is the true threat with the FVV contract. Suns need cap relief. Plain and simple. They won’t be able to fix there situation until they get out of the repeater. They need expiring contracts and young cheap talent. They also need easy contracts to flip to a cap space team to make this happen. Rozier and Duncan might be junk but they’re easy contracts for a team like BK to absorb due to 12 million combined in non guaranteed money.

PHX 1000% wants to trade with the Rox first and foremost.

At this stage of their development, KD is aged out of their timeline. Same with the Spurs.

Minny and Miami the last 2 standing.

[fincane30]

FO obsession with him likely cost us a championship in the Jimmy era and he’s done nothing to warrant such a standing within the organization

Bam and Goran getting hurt in the bubble cost us a championship ironically when Herro's rookie year made him very valuable in a trade and at the time most fans of Heat didn't want to trade him. Giving an old and small point guard 85 million dollars likely cost the team a championship. That money certainly could've better used elsewhere instead of making Lowry your 2nd or third highest paid player depending on the year. Holding on to a low cost scorer making less than 5 mil per year when he had our best teams did not. Point to the low lottery pick and not the decision to acquire Kyle Lowry and pay him 7 times more per year?

Bam n Goran getting hurt doesn’t explain away Spo’s zone D getting hammered by the Lakers or playoff Rondo seemingly unable to miss a shot along with several of their other role players who got hot from beyond the arc, nor does it factor in AD getting hurt himself and playing hobbled

Mia wasn’t gonna win that series no matter what is the truth

Jimmy going nuclear is the only reason why people sometimes entertain this take but it still would have been an uphill battle if all players on both teams were healthy

Playoff Rondo shot under 40% from the field in that series. The only Laker role player who "got hot" was Morris who shot 40% from 3. AD shooting over 40% from 3 was a killer too. The only Lakers who broke 40% overall on any actual volume were LeBron, AD and Caruso.

AD hobbled or not plays all 6 games. Bam your third best player plays 4 and your second best player Goran plays 2 games. Neither one healthy for more than a game and half at best. I'm gonna confidently say Miami's injury issues played a bigger factor in how that series plays out than AD playing with a limp for a couple of quarters.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[carnageta]

We should have just kept Omer YurtSeven, nurtured him into a killer Miami Heat role-player (15ppg/10rbs), and then flipped him for Kevin Durant. Suns would have taken the bait, especially if he had a no-trade clause.

[Beenie]

Bam and Goran getting hurt in the bubble cost us a championship ironically when Herro's rookie year made him very valuable in a trade and at the time most fans of Heat didn't want to trade him. Giving an old and small point guard 85 million dollars likely cost the team a championship. That money certainly could've better used elsewhere instead of making Lowry your 2nd or third highest paid player depending on the year. Holding on to a low cost scorer making less than 5 mil per year when he had our best teams did not. Point to the low lottery pick and not the decision to acquire Kyle Lowry and pay him 7 times more per year?

Bam n Goran getting hurt doesn’t explain away Spo’s zone D getting hammered by the Lakers or playoff Rondo seemingly unable to miss a shot along with several of their other role players who got hot from beyond the arc, nor does it factor in AD getting hurt himself and playing hobbled

Mia wasn’t gonna win that series no matter what is the truth

Jimmy going nuclear is the only reason why people sometimes entertain this take but it still would have been an uphill battle if all players on both teams were healthy

Playoff Rondo shot under 40% from the field in that series. The only Laker role player who "got hot" was Morris who shot 40% from 3. AD shooting over 40% from 3 was a killer too. The only Lakers who broke 40% overall on any actual volume were LeBron, AD and Caruso.

AD hobbled or not plays all 6 games. Bam your third best player plays 4 and your second best player Goran plays 2 games. Neither one healthy for more than a game and half at best. I'm gonna confidently say Miami's injury issues played a bigger factor in how that series plays out than AD playing with a limp for a couple of quarters.

Ronda had some bad shooting games mixed in which plummeted his % for the entire series; make no mistake though, he played an instrumental role in a few of the games that the Lakers won including several stretches in different games when he could barely miss.

Im willing to dig in and say that Mia hypothetically at full strength for games 1 and 2 Mia would of still lost because Spo's schematical approach was ineffective. Lakers scouted Mia's zone and routinely busted it with AD in the middle of the floor.

Wasnt til game 3 that Spo adjusted and by then, having to come back down 2 games would of been an uphill battle.

That said, I still think if we are gonna play the 'what if' game, AD at full strength vs Bam and Goran at full strength, the lakers would have the advantage.

Series may have gone 7 perhaps, though.

[Beenie]

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Hypothetically, if Mia bends and offers Ware, what assets would they likely keep?

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Don’t listen to these two bozos when it comes to the Heat. Simmons was telling everyone the Spurs had a deal already that was waiting to be announced. Both these goons hate the Heat.

[Kobewade11]

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If Andy (wisely) draws the line at Ware, I wonder if Heat fans will chalk it up as another FO couldnt close the deal or acknowledge its smart asset mgt

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam and Goran getting hurt in the bubble cost us a championship ironically when Herro's rookie year made him very valuable in a trade and at the time most fans of Heat didn't want to trade him. Giving an old and small point guard 85 million dollars likely cost the team a championship. That money certainly could've better used elsewhere instead of making Lowry your 2nd or third highest paid player depending on the year. Holding on to a low cost scorer making less than 5 mil per year when he had our best teams did not. Point to the low lottery pick and not the decision to acquire Kyle Lowry and pay him 7 times more per year?

Bam n Goran getting hurt doesn’t explain away Spo’s zone D getting hammered by the Lakers or playoff Rondo seemingly unable to miss a shot along with several of their other role players who got hot from beyond the arc, nor does it factor in AD getting hurt himself and playing hobbled

Mia wasn’t gonna win that series no matter what is the truth

Jimmy going nuclear is the only reason why people sometimes entertain this take but it still would have been an uphill battle if all players on both teams were healthy

Playoff Rondo shot under 40% from the field in that series. The only Laker role player who "got hot" was Morris who shot 40% from 3. AD shooting over 40% from 3 was a killer too. The only Lakers who broke 40% overall on any actual volume were LeBron, AD and Caruso.

AD hobbled or not plays all 6 games. Bam your third best player plays 4 and your second best player Goran plays 2 games. Neither one healthy for more than a game and half at best. I'm gonna confidently say Miami's injury issues played a bigger factor in how that series plays out than AD playing with a limp for a couple of quarters.

Love Dragic, he wasn’t better than Bam in 2020 lol. I agree with your other points on injury though, they definitely played a factor

[Beenie]

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Don’t listen to these two bozos when it comes to the Heat. Simmons was telling everyone the Spurs had a deal already that was waiting to be announced. Both these goons hate the Heat.

Simmons' take isnt unreasonable.

Plenty of Heat fans would prefer to blow it up, me included.

But since that aint happening, willing to ponder the possibilities of what the present and future will look like.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Hypothetically, if Mia bends and offers Ware, what assets would they likely keep?

If they send Ware then they better keep all their picks. Suns get the necessary salary and Ware is the lone asset. Then you take everything else and use it to build the best possible roster for the next 3 years around KD/Bam.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[fincane30]

Bam n Goran getting hurt doesn’t explain away Spo’s zone D getting hammered by the Lakers or playoff Rondo seemingly unable to miss a shot along with several of their other role players who got hot from beyond the arc, nor does it factor in AD getting hurt himself and playing hobbled

Mia wasn’t gonna win that series no matter what is the truth

Jimmy going nuclear is the only reason why people sometimes entertain this take but it still would have been an uphill battle if all players on both teams were healthy

Playoff Rondo shot under 40% from the field in that series. The only Laker role player who "got hot" was Morris who shot 40% from 3. AD shooting over 40% from 3 was a killer too. The only Lakers who broke 40% overall on any actual volume were LeBron, AD and Caruso.

AD hobbled or not plays all 6 games. Bam your third best player plays 4 and your second best player Goran plays 2 games. Neither one healthy for more than a game and half at best. I'm gonna confidently say Miami's injury issues played a bigger factor in how that series plays out than AD playing with a limp for a couple of quarters.

Love Dragic, he wasn’t better than Bam in 2020 lol. I agree with your other points on injury though, they definitely played a factor

He was in the bubble

[carnageta]

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Don’t listen to these two bozos when it comes to the Heat. Simmons was telling everyone the Spurs had a deal already that was waiting to be announced. Both these goons hate the Heat.

These clowns said the same thing when we landed Jimmy back in 2019 lol.

[greg4012]

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Don’t listen to these two bozos when it comes to the Heat. Simmons was telling everyone the Spurs had a deal already that was waiting to be announced. Both these goons hate the Heat.

He doesn't want Miami sniffing around the playoffs in the East with a revamped team lol