2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Wiltside]

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If the price is right, Kawhi would be great. At his best, he's still a top tier guy in the league and a proven postseason performer. Availability is his biggest issue, but that seems to be standard across our roster anyway.

[Flash4thewin]

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We are currently dealing with the nightmare complications of one player under investigation and now want to jump into bed with another player who is currently under investigation?

[MartyConlonJr]

If you are the Bucks, the current state of the New Orleans Pelicans does allow you to tank. It would be risky to rely on them staying this bad though.

Obviously Giannis doesn't want to lose the season - he was just talking about being in the pantheon of all time scorers with an aggressive schedule to get there, but Bucks get the worse pick of Pelicans and Bucks in a potentially generational draft with 3 big names, with Atlanta getting the other. Bucks need an infusion of talent from somewhere on the cheap and a top 3 pick would do that, a top 5 pick might be enough to swing a trade for beefing up that team.

Ultimately that timeline does seem too far away, but Giannis resting for 4 weeks takes you to mid January, if the Bucks go tanking, you only need to wait the season out for 3 months and come back next year with an injection.

I do think he goes the trade route though.

[jbsays]

So two injury prone guys are "on the market"?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

So two injury prone guys are "on the market"?

Technically they didn’t say Herro was on the market, just that it appears if the right deal comes along that we’d be willing to move him because we weren’t willing to extend him

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Can I just say I'm over the grass is greener nonsense? We're so eager to trash a Ware, say "uhhh Heat fans overrate our players hurr durr" but the only reason teams like Indy and OKC did what they did last year was believing in their players and giving them room to grow. I'm not saying fall in love with them, but let's try to put them in positions to succeed at least.

There's way too many agendas on here lately, people who like one guy and dislike another because they perceive him as a threat to their guy or holding him back. How about we trash other teams players the way we trash ours?

Kawhi is a shady figure who takes money under the table and is constantly "injured" to the point you're lucky if you get 50 games out of him in a season. Besides having a more brash outward ego, he actually sounds worse in every way to the situation we just got out of with Jimmy. (and yes he's super talented, that's not the point)

Trae Young/Ja Morant/Lamelo Ball are **** trash knucklehead low IQ chuckers, none of them play defense. None of them would be a pure upgrade to Herro, and yet we're desperate to make that move happen (some of us are anyways).

Anthony Davis is made of glass and is also older at this point. He's also a suspect fit next to Bam, I'd prefer Giannis, and he's not some born winner, he got to play with a still near prime LeBron (btw we would have beat that team ourselves if our team was healthy, arguably).

Even Giannis has issues... well, I've complained enough, but you get the point.

Last point on this, if you're pointing to twitter comments, yeah you're going to get people with hyperbolic irrational takes, that's twitter. I say this all the time, point me to where on realgm people unironically claim Ware is better than Giannis (not that he has huge potential, that he's better now) or who is saying all these other crazy things. Its about context. It just feels like this board is no longer Heat fans, but a loose collection of people who root for the team in Miami and like a few players and want to trade out the rest for their other favorite players in the NBA.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Can I just say I'm over the grass is greener nonsense? We're so eager to trash a Ware, say "uhhh Heat fans overrate our players hurr durr" but the only reason teams like Indy and OKC did what they did last year was believing in their players and giving them room to grow. I'm not saying fall in love with them, but let's try to put them in positions to succeed at least.

There's way too many agendas on here lately, people who like one guy and dislike another because they perceive him as a threat to their guy or holding him back. How about we trash other teams players the way we trash ours?

Kawhi is a shady figure who takes money under the table and is constantly "injured" to the point you're lucky if you get 50 games out of him in a season. Besides having a more brash outward ego, he actually sounds worse in every way to the situation we just got out of with Jimmy. (and yes he's super talented, that's not the point)

Trae Young/Ja Morant/Lamelo Ball are **** trash knucklehead low IQ chuckers, none of them play defense. None of them would be a pure upgrade to Herro, and yet we're desperate to make that move happen (some of us are anyways).

Anthony Davis is made of glass and is also older at this point. He's also a suspect fit next to Bam, I'd prefer Giannis, and he's not some born winner, he got to play with a still near prime LeBron (btw we would have beat that team ourselves if our team was healthy, arguably).

Even Giannis has issues... well, I've complained enough, but you get the point.

Last point on this, if you're pointing to twitter comments, yeah you're going to get people with hyperbolic irrational takes, that's twitter. I say this all the time, point me to where on realgm people unironically claim Ware is better than Giannis (not that he has huge potential, that he's better now) or who is saying all these other crazy things. Its about context. It just feels like this board is no longer Heat fans, but a loose collection of people who root for the team in Miami and like a few players and want to trade out the rest for their other favorite players in the NBA.

Valid points but can you at least acknowledge the need to sign Aja Wilson so we can establish a dominant low post threat against the likes of Wemby and others?

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Can I just say I'm over the grass is greener nonsense? We're so eager to trash a Ware, say "uhhh Heat fans overrate our players hurr durr" but the only reason teams like Indy and OKC did what they did last year was believing in their players and giving them room to grow. I'm not saying fall in love with them, but let's try to put them in positions to succeed at least.

There's way too many agendas on here lately, people who like one guy and dislike another because they perceive him as a threat to their guy or holding him back. How about we trash other teams players the way we trash ours?

Kawhi is a shady figure who takes money under the table and is constantly "injured" to the point you're lucky if you get 50 games out of him in a season. Besides having a more brash outward ego, he actually sounds worse in every way to the situation we just got out of with Jimmy. (and yes he's super talented, that's not the point)

Trae Young/Ja Morant/Lamelo Ball are **** trash knucklehead low IQ chuckers, none of them play defense. None of them would be a pure upgrade to Herro, and yet we're desperate to make that move happen (some of us are anyways).

Anthony Davis is made of glass and is also older at this point. He's also a suspect fit next to Bam, I'd prefer Giannis, and he's not some born winner, he got to play with a still near prime LeBron (btw we would have beat that team ourselves if our team was healthy, arguably).

Even Giannis has issues... well, I've complained enough, but you get the point.

Last point on this, if you're pointing to twitter comments, yeah you're going to get people with hyperbolic irrational takes, that's twitter. I say this all the time, point me to where on realgm people unironically claim Ware is better than Giannis (not that he has huge potential, that he's better now) or who is saying all these other crazy things. Its about context. It just feels like this board is no longer Heat fans, but a loose collection of people who root for the team in Miami and like a few players and want to trade out the rest for their other favorite players in the NBA.

Valid points but can you at least acknowledge the need to sign Aja Wilson so we can establish a dominant low post threat against the likes of Wemby and others?

She should be the head coach.

[Wiltside]

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We are currently dealing with the nightmare complications of one player under investigation and now want to jump into bed with another player who is currently under investigation?

Easy solution - swap one non-playing headache for one that is playing.

Wiggs and Rozier for Kawhi. Done.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

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We are currently dealing with the nightmare complications of one player under investigation and now want to jump into bed with another player who is currently under investigation?

Easy solution - swap one non-playing headache for one that is playing.

Wiggs and Rozier for Kawhi. Done.

Why on earth would the Clippers do that? Although obviously sign me up.

[SerialChiller]

Valid points but can you at least acknowledge the need to sign Aja Wilson so we can establish a dominant low post threat against the likes of Wemby and others?

The LDE Pat Riley is giving off by not doing this already is insane!

[al bondiga]

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We are currently dealing with the nightmare complications of one player under investigation and now want to jump into bed with another player who is currently under investigation?

Will I don't like kawai either... It seems like he has always been a snitch...from the San Antonio days We could see the doings of a backstabber... He is more gifted in offense and defense than jb, but he's basically the same kind of player ...And a good excuse to play small ball.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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We are currently dealing with the nightmare complications of one player under investigation and now want to jump into bed with another player who is currently under investigation?

Will I don't like kawai either... It seems like he has always been a snitch...from the San Antonio days We could see the doings of a backstabber... He is more gifted in offense and defense than jb, but he's basically the same kind of player ...And a good excuse to play small ball.

Kawhi is similar to Jimmy but there are some key differences namely Kawhi’s tendency to make quicker decisions with the ball in his hands which would play well in this current style of offense that features a sped up pace.

Regarding small ball, Spo currently has Wiggins playing PF and It seems the idea of sizing up for consistent stretches is just not in his dna, and unless players like AD, Giannis or Aaron Gordon were available to him, Spo’s aversion to a 2 big lineups will continue to be his prevailing default. That said, having a versatile defensive dynamo like Kawhi manning PF would perhaps be the best option of small ball that could be constructed.

The other points about availability and off court issues are fair and valid. It’s because of those things though that the price to acquire Kawhi would likely be a fraction of what it would cost for other elite level stars.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Kawhi is similar to Jimmy but there are some key differences namely Kawhi’s tendency to make quicker decisions with the ball in his hands which would play well in this current style of offense that features a sped up pace.

Regarding small ball, Spo currently has Wiggins playing PF and It seems the idea of sizing up for consistent stretches is just not in his dna, and unless players like AD, Giannis or Aaron Gordon were available to him, Spo’s aversion to a 2 big lineups will continue to be his prevailing default. That said, having a versatile defensive dynamo like Kawhi manning PF would perhaps be the best option of small ball that could be constructed.

The other points about availability and off court issues are fair and valid. It’s because of those things though that the price to acquire Kawhi would likely be a fraction of what it would cost for other elite level stars.

Just purely speaking in basketball terms, I agree that Kawhi can be more of a net positive than Jimmy just due to how quickly he reacts in the offense. I also think Jimmy is passive to a detrimental level, while Kawhi is the proper amount of assertive for how skilled he is. That said, I'd never let him run the offense, whereas Jimmy can be a pseudo point.

Of course you can't ignore all the other stuff, and so I don't know how seriously I take any Kawhi rumors. If we get him for a bag of chips, are we getting Rozier'd again and finding out the league has more dirt on that contract or that Kawhi just won't really try if he doesn't get to play in LA? And otherwise, who would want to give up significant value for a chance at getting Rozier'd? Whole thing stinks to me.

If we're gonna take a flyer on a guy who has a lot of flaws/question marks, my bandwagon is hitched to Zion, who I think is mostly harmless and just gets too many nagging injuries and needs to work on his conditioning (which is this franchises strength). I also think Zion's value has to be in the dirt and we might just be able to get him for a bag of chips.

[Beenie]

Kawhi is similar to Jimmy but there are some key differences namely Kawhi’s tendency to make quicker decisions with the ball in his hands which would play well in this current style of offense that features a sped up pace.

Regarding small ball, Spo currently has Wiggins playing PF and It seems the idea of sizing up for consistent stretches is just not in his dna, and unless players like AD, Giannis or Aaron Gordon were available to him, Spo’s aversion to a 2 big lineups will continue to be his prevailing default. That said, having a versatile defensive dynamo like Kawhi manning PF would perhaps be the best option of small ball that could be constructed.

The other points about availability and off court issues are fair and valid. It’s because of those things though that the price to acquire Kawhi would likely be a fraction of what it would cost for other elite level stars.

Just purely speaking in basketball terms, I agree that Kawhi can be more of a net positive than Jimmy just due to how quickly he reacts in the offense. I also think Jimmy is passive to a detrimental level, while Kawhi is the proper amount of assertive for how skilled he is. That said, I'd never let him run the offense, whereas Jimmy can be a pseudo point.

Of course you can't ignore all the other stuff, and so I don't know how seriously I take any Kawhi rumors. If we get him for a bag of chips, are we getting Rozier'd again and finding out the league has more dirt on that contract or that Kawhi just won't really try if he doesn't get to play in LA? And otherwise, who would want to give up significant value for a chance at getting Rozier'd? Whole thing stinks to me.

If we're gonna take a flyer on a guy who has a lot of flaws/question marks, my bandwagon is hitched to Zion, who I think is mostly harmless and just gets too many nagging injuries and needs to work on his conditioning (which is this franchises strength). I also think Zion's value has to be in the dirt and we might just be able to get him for a bag of chips.

I’m not opposed to to gambling in Zion. I’m on record of supporting this idea. In fact, I’d also be compelled by Trey Murphy and would want Mia to explore a larger deal to acquire both if they are indeed going to talk trade with NO.

That said, to price to get Zion by himself I suspect is going to be much higher than the price for Kawhi. Additionally, integrating Kawhi, I assume would be an easier task and would bolster Mias immediate chances of competing this year.

[K N U C K L E S]

Valid points but can you at least acknowledge the need to sign Aja Wilson so we can establish a dominant low post threat against the likes of Wemby and others?

The LDE Pat Riley is giving off by not doing this already is insane!

What does LDE stand for? And why do you think we know what it stands for?

Is Riley still alive? I can't remember the last time I heard him talk. He's like Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget now. All we see of him is his arm and his cat.

[K N U C K L E S]

Why is the game tomorrow at 6:00? And why is the next round at 5:30? It's not like this is the actual playoffs where there's 3 or 4 games a night.

And it's not on TV? I'm gonna have to pirate it.