Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Part 1 - Can You Feel It?

[somerandomdude]

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"The Waiters contract is as close to untradable that I have ever seen in the NBA," one league executive said.

LMAO I can't take that executive seriously. When did he just find out about the NBA? Yesterday?

Waiters may not be tradeable at this moment, but if there's enough years on returning salary, any team will take him on just to dump salary. Also, I think his contract expires after next season. And the truth is, he may not be happy here in Miami b/c of playing time, but any other team that can use an SG will find at least some PT for him.

Edit: also, it's likely that that WE don't want to take on salary, unless it's a good player and are not planning to be players in free agency in the near future.

[Wiltside]

The more I think about it the more I think Riley goes all in now. The chances of signing Giannis in 2021 are slim to none. Teams with better chances at signing him plus better for Giannis is Warriors, Mavs. Jimmy will be too old by then. As opposed to signing with perfect fit Curry/Klay or the much younger duo Luka/KP.

Signing Giannis is a pipe dream, almost as bad as thinking we had a shot at KD with an aging Wade. Not gonna happen imo. Which is why I think Riley goes for it now before the next super team is formed and we are all left in the dust.

Curry Klay Green Giannis is literally game over
Luka KP Giannis is also too much to handle.
Giannis Jimmy is not a great fit, no shooting, and age difference too big.

Giannis to Heat is a miracle pipe dream. And we are never going to have higher value on our guys than we do right now.

Right now Nunn, Herro, Bam, DJJ, DRob all have their value through the roof. NOW is the time to cash in.

Cash them in for who though?

What legit game-changing player is even available?

I would love to see JOKIC here

Jokic probably wouldn’t see the court due to conditioning standards

[Dr_Heat]

Someone make the “ Dion Waiters Appreciation “ thread ,

[twix2500]

Someone make the “ Dion Waiters Appreciation “ thread ,

Lol, the Heat should retire his name.

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[eddieheatfan]

Someone make the “ Dion Waiters Appreciation “ thread ,

[dean456]

The more I think about it the more I think Riley goes all in now. The chances of signing Giannis in 2021 are slim to none. Teams with better chances at signing him plus better for Giannis is Warriors, Mavs. Jimmy will be too old by then. As opposed to signing with perfect fit Curry/Klay or the much younger duo Luka/KP.

Signing Giannis is a pipe dream, almost as bad as thinking we had a shot at KD with an aging Wade. Not gonna happen imo. Which is why I think Riley goes for it now before the next super team is formed and we are all left in the dust.

Curry Klay Green Giannis is literally game over
Luka KP Giannis is also too much to handle.
Giannis Jimmy is not a great fit, no shooting, and age difference too big.

Giannis to Heat is a miracle pipe dream. And we are never going to have higher value on our guys than we do right now.

Right now Nunn, Herro, Bam, DJJ, DRob all have their value through the roof. NOW is the time to cash in.

We had a meeting with KD that summer despite being in a faaar worse position that summer with Bosh's last playing season being 2015-2016 and KD signed in 2016, Wade was 35yo and had a bad injury history which is completely different compared to a healthy aging Butler who will be 31yo. Once Giannis' next contract finishes Butler won't even be as old as Wade was when KD signed.

GS aren't in a position for Giannis and why would Giannis want to do what KD just did and regretted? Also Luka is going to be his competition going forward, even right now they are competing for MVP so I doubt Giannis will want to join him. Our biggest competition for signing him is him staying loyal to Milwaukee. I can live with not making a move this season, seeing how we do as constructed and come back to this type of decision once Giannis decides on his extension. If Milwaukee is off the table though we need to at least try and get him.

I don't agree that those guys have maximized their value. Bam and Herro will definitely get better, DJJr with more playing time all season will increase his value, Nunn and Robinson may have reached their plateau but they aren't decreasing in value anytime soon. On top of that JJ, Olynyk and Waiters become expiring contracts next season which would increase the value of any package where we include any of our smaller contract players so for that reason alone its probably better to wait for a deal. Plus we will also have a better idea what guys like Okpala and our 2020 FRP can contribute to our team and who could become more expendable.

[twix2500]

Nasty DJJ

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[puppa bear]

So, how much of LMA’s lack of ability to space the floor (shoot the 3), is a function of the Spurs & Pop? DD was shooting a lot more 3s in his last season with the Raptors and has barely shot them in SA.

Is it possible that LMA could provide just as much spacing as Leonard, but with more scoring potential? He doesn’t hurt the 2021 plan, and with the right deal we could get a lot better without severely impacting our current depth or the 2021 plan.

[dean456]

Utah waiving Jeff Green.

[puppa bear]

Utah waiving Jeff Green.

Definitely someone worth considering if we make a trade that opens extra roster spots. But for now being able to sign Silva to a 3-year min deal should be priority #1 for our limited cap space.

[MettaWorldPanda]

So, how much of LMA’s lack of ability to space the floor (shoot the 3), is a function of the Spurs & Pop? DD was shooting a lot more 3s in his last season with the Raptors and has barely shot them in SA.

Is it possible that LMA could provide just as much spacing as Leonard, but with more scoring potential? He doesn’t hurt the 2021 plan, and with the right deal we could get a lot better without severely impacting our current depth or the 2021 plan.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

LMA destroyed Memphis big physical front court. The same front court that gave us so many problems. Time to start working the phones in San Antonio.

[puppa bear]

LMA destroyed Memphis big physical front court. The same front court that gave us so many problems. Time to start working the phones in San Antonio.

I would be surprised if LMA isn’t being shopped on the quiet. I think they’d be asking for Winslow at a minimum.

[iamoti]

Tyler is 100% untouchable. He is a 19yo rookie who averages 14ppg and 38% from 3 while playing for a top team. Thats crazy good. His question mark was defense. He guarded Mitchell in the clutch and did a very good job. Very impressed with him and i feel he has a lot of growth to his game left. With Jimmy mentoring him he can definately reach his potential.



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[Bishop45]

Admittedly and graciously not watching many Spurs games, but every time I see them, them men's look old. Stats have reflected such. LA's better than any 4 we have now tho, just wouldn't trade Dragic/Winslow to make it possible. Same with Love

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[puppa bear]

Admittedly and graciously not watching many Spurs games, but every time I see them, them men's look old. Stats have reflected such. LA's better than any 4 we have now tho, just wouldn't trade Dragic/Winslow to make it possible. Same with Love

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Considering they’re the only players to log more than 30mpg (Forbes is the only other player north of 24mpg), and the team is 12-17 with a points differential of almost -3, then it’s not shocking that they’re both taking a hefty +/- hit this season. I wouldn’t judge their crappiness this season on that alone.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Admittedly and graciously not watching many Spurs games, but every time I see them, them men's look old. Stats have reflected such. LA's better than any 4 we have now tho, just wouldn't trade Dragic/Winslow to make it possible. Same with Love

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[Bishop45]

Admittedly and graciously not watching many Spurs games, but every time I see them, them men's look old. Stats have reflected such. LA's better than any 4 we have now tho, just wouldn't trade Dragic/Winslow to make it possible. Same with Love

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Considering they’re the only players to log more than 30mpg (Forbes is the only other player north of 24mpg), and the team is 12-17 with a points differential of almost -3, then it’s not shocking that they’re both taking a hefty +/- hit this season. I wouldn’t judge their crappiness this season on that alone.

I wouldn't/I'm not. I've only watched but a few quarters of their season so far. Most Spurs fans have seen the merit behind those numbers tho and can corroborate them; all that isn't conclusive, but enough for me not to want to give contributors, young guys for either

[BFRESH44]

Thru 30 games, this is my favorite Heat team to watch ever. I favor it over all 3 of the title teams, 2005 Heat first year of Shaq, 2004 Wade/Caron/EG/Odom 2004 team, and the '97 61 win road warriors team.

Such a resilient and fun team to watch. Young homegrown players making significant contributions to winning. Star free agent wing that was acquired via S&T playing playing as unselfish as you can get. Bounce back year from the lead guard who was all but traded in the off-season to create salary space for said star free agent. Just super fun to watch.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I would trade Winslow for LMA in a heartbeat. I'll take the two years that fit our timeline and try and find a better version of Winslow in the draft or allow KZ Okpala to develop. We have a team that can make noise in the playoffs now and i just can't find a spot for Winslow other then at his weakest position of PF.