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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#1921 » by BlueHeat » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:40 am

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It's almost like he was excused from shoot around to put him in a situation where he could get suspended. I don't know but saying the practice was cancelled and then the flight was moved up sure is interesting in this situation. It is pretty for this to happen now. It's a lot like the late payment to Butler, on it's own not an issue, it's the timeframe it happens. The GM tells you publicly to shut up, they don't extend you and all of a sudden, your first missed deposit happens. Maybe a coincidence, but at this point I doubt it, the public announcement that Miami would not trade Butler put a bow on it for me. The FO that doesn't leak information, the FO that has the rest of the NBA guessing what they're doing just publicly comes out and says they're not trading Butler, that's them pushing Butler's limits and yet, most of this fan base is good with bosses doing this to their employees.

I use to be pro team, it's **** like this that made me quit being a fan of teams. Chicago did their own propaganda against Butler and Thibodeau (and of course others), shipped out loyal players for the sake of money because the FO screwed up the financial future of the team.

Come on... really? The team that never leaks anything puts out a tweet/press release that they aren't trading Butler and this was supposed to fix a distraction, really?
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You think they purposefully made him miss the plane? Nobody on the team let him know when the plane was taking off?
That would mean he has 0 friends on the team, which would speak more to Jimmy's character than anything else. lol
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Post#1922 » by Heat3 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:42 am

Flash4thewin wrote:So just from a simple logical standpoint, why suspend a player you are actively trying to trade? All you are doing is reducing the value you get back and it doesn't put the organization in a good light optic wise to future prospective players. Just feels like an unforced error here.


I don't think it has any affect on his trade value. The Suns are the only team that really wants him. They probably prefer that he gets suspended so he doesn't get hurt.

No player is going to look at an nba team and say "well I won't sign a max contract there cause they suspended X player". Just like Jimmy only cares about the Suns because they are the only ones ready to give him the max. And just like he came here even though Heat gave Wade the boot. Only thing that matters is their own bank account.
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Post#1923 » by AirP. » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:43 am

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Doing his boys dirty.

If he gets injured, he's probably opting into his player option next year vs being a FA, he's going to do the bare minimum for a roster that probably only gets as far as he can get them although the offense is no longer built around him or Bam. Butler should have been moved before the season started and Miami should have gone with developing the younger players while waiting for 2026.

This narrative that the offense was no longer built around butler needs to die a slow and painful death for the lie that it is. The offense adjusted and made due without him, which is why you suddenly see JJJ and Jokić handling the ball so much more, but that was after Jimmy checked out and all the rest of this stuff started to happen. It’s the same damn offense and that’s not the reason for his (or Bam, since that’s part of the angle) decreased output.

What are you talking about? The Heat are putting up almost 39 3s a game, that's over 5 more per game since last year and it's going to continue to go up which is why I think there's a 50/50 chance Bam is gone by the start of the 2026-2027 season if he doesn't get his 3ball going.

The new direction is a great move but it doesn't help Bam or Butler's games and not only did they know this, Spoelstra said as much in while training for the preseason. He said he expected Butler and Bam to be able to figure out how they could be effective in the new offense. From time-to-time Bam mentions this too when talking about Butler or his own game.

Seeing the offense in that long road trip, I saw the benefits of the offense, most games the lane was empty with usually 4 or 5 3pt shooters on the court. In the Denver game you get to see Jokic sitting in the middle of the lane making drives much more difficult to happen. It's the way the NBA is moving towards if they don't figure out how to slow down 3pt shots.
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Post#1924 » by AirP. » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:44 am

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Post#1925 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:45 am

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Flash4thewin wrote:So just from a simple logical standpoint, why suspend a player you are actively trying to trade? All you are doing is reducing the value you get back and it doesn't put the organization in a good light optic wise to future prospective players. Just feels like an unforced error here.


I don't think it has any affect on his trade value. The Suns are the only team that really wants him. They probably prefer that he gets suspended so he doesn't get hurt.

No player is going to look at an nba team and say "well I won't sign a max contract there cause they suspended X player". Just like Jimmy only cares about the Suns because they are the only ones ready to give him the max. And just like he came here even though Heat gave Wade the boot. Only thing that matters is their own bank account.


I just want this to end, make sure we dont get a lottery pick and continue to play Ware and Bam and this season will be a success.
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Post#1926 » by Johnny Fontane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:45 am

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marson wrote:I don't understand why can't FO just let Jimmy stay at home until a trade is finalized. He's only dragging down the team's morale and not contributing to our standings.
i agree they should have let him stay at home if he doesnt have the desire to work for them anymore. dude is a detriment to team's morale already


He can stay home, they're just not going to pay him to do it. He signed a contract, fulfill your contract or F right off


Yep. It simply boils down to Micky having an ego contest with Jimmy. Paying him 350k per game while he goes out to drink and party while away from the team is the ultimate screw you to the Heat organization

Micky is not about to reward that BS
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#1927 » by BlueHeat » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:50 am

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Flash4thewin wrote:So just from a simple logical standpoint, why suspend a player you are actively trying to trade? All you are doing is reducing the value you get back and it doesn't put the organization in a good light optic wise to future prospective players. Just feels like an unforced error here.


I don't think it has any affect on his trade value. The Suns are the only team that really wants him. They probably prefer that he gets suspended so he doesn't get hurt.

No player is going to look at an nba team and say "well I won't sign a max contract there cause they suspended X player". Just like Jimmy only cares about the Suns because they are the only ones ready to give him the max. And just like he came here even though Heat gave Wade the boot. Only thing that matters is their own bank account.


I just want this to end, make sure we dont get a lottery pick and continue to play Ware and Bam and this season will be a success.


Can someone explain the implications of us getting a lotto pick this year?
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Post#1928 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:51 am

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eddieheatfan wrote:i agree they should have let him stay at home if he doesnt have the desire to work for them anymore. dude is a detriment to team's morale already


He can stay home, they're just not going to pay him to do it. He signed a contract, fulfill your contract or F right off


Yep. It simply boils down to Micky having an ego contest with Jimmy. Paying him 350k per game while he goes out to drink and party while away from the team is the ultimate screw you to the Heat organization and Micky is not about to reward that BS

Honestly who cares, we're most likely trading him to a super team so not sure why being petty matters anymore Jimmy got his way either way. Just get him off the team I already don't care if we're paying him to be at home but we should've told him to stay home after the first suspension.
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Post#1929 » by eddieheatfan » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:51 am

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Post#1930 » by heater4life » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:51 am

marson wrote:I don't understand why can't FO just let Jimmy stay at home until a trade is finalized. He's only dragging down the team's morale and not contributing to our standings.


Because he makes 565000 dollars per game to play basketball. And it cost the Heat 1.1M per game to keep his a$$ at home.
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Post#1931 » by Nihilism » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:53 am

Unfortunately I've lost an access to my main account and was just lurking for quite some time. But when I tried to register a new one I realised I have another account I've just stopped using.

Anyway. Up until recently I was barely watching any games this season except a few good Tyler ones. And it was never the case in previous seasons. And the main reason was Butler, even before all this drama. I was just tired of watching him half-assing in regular season and telling all this duck tales how he gonna turn it around in PO only to get injured. Absolutely uninspiring brand of basketball.
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Post#1932 » by Heat3 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:53 am

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Flash4thewin wrote:So just from a simple logical standpoint, why suspend a player you are actively trying to trade? All you are doing is reducing the value you get back and it doesn't put the organization in a good light optic wise to future prospective players. Just feels like an unforced error here.


I don't think it has any affect on his trade value. The Suns are the only team that really wants him. They probably prefer that he gets suspended so he doesn't get hurt.

No player is going to look at an nba team and say "well I won't sign a max contract there cause they suspended X player". Just like Jimmy only cares about the Suns because they are the only ones ready to give him the max. And just like he came here even though Heat gave Wade the boot. Only thing that matters is their own bank account.


I just want this to end, make sure we dont get a lottery pick and continue to play Ware and Bam and this season will be a success.


I don't think it would be so bad to get a lottery pick this year. I know it affects protections on future picks. It would only be painful if we have to give up a pick and it turns out to be a lottery pick. Are we planning to be worse next year? Just having a decent player playing hard in place of Jimmy will make us better than this year. So why not give up a worse pick a year later? Imagine if the Heat get the #1 pick this year on low odds like the Bulls did with Rose? One can dream.
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Post#1933 » by heatwillbeback » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:53 am

If we were not agains the wall enough with this deal, dealing with another diva with a no trade clause trying to dictate location is just...wonderful.
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Post#1934 » by DayofMourning » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:53 am

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Flash4thewin wrote:So just from a simple logical standpoint, why suspend a player you are actively trying to trade? All you are doing is reducing the value you get back and it doesn't put the organization in a good light optic wise to future prospective players. Just feels like an unforced error here.


I don't think it has any affect on his trade value. The Suns are the only team that really wants him. They probably prefer that he gets suspended so he doesn't get hurt.

No player is going to look at an nba team and say "well I won't sign a max contract there cause they suspended X player". Just like Jimmy only cares about the Suns because they are the only ones ready to give him the max. And just like he came here even though Heat gave Wade the boot. Only thing that matters is their own bank account.


I just want this to end, make sure we dont get a lottery pick and continue to play Ware and Bam and this season will be a success.


Why would we not want a lottery pick? Isnt the Suns move an indication that our unprotected firsts situation is getting halved?
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Post#1935 » by Johnny Fontane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:54 am

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He can stay home, they're just not going to pay him to do it. He signed a contract, fulfill your contract or F right off


Yep. It simply boils down to Micky having an ego contest with Jimmy. Paying him 350k per game while he goes out to drink and party while away from the team is the ultimate screw you to the Heat organization and Micky is not about to reward that BS

Honestly who cares, we're most likely trading him to a super team so not sure why being petty matters anymore Jimmy got his way either way. Just get him off the team I already don't care if we're paying him to be at home but we should've told him to stay home after the first suspension.


Agreed I’m against the pettiness and drama. It doesn’t exactly paint the Heat in a good light
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Post#1936 » by DayofMourning » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:56 am

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I don't think it has any affect on his trade value. The Suns are the only team that really wants him. They probably prefer that he gets suspended so he doesn't get hurt.

No player is going to look at an nba team and say "well I won't sign a max contract there cause they suspended X player". Just like Jimmy only cares about the Suns because they are the only ones ready to give him the max. And just like he came here even though Heat gave Wade the boot. Only thing that matters is their own bank account.


I just want this to end, make sure we dont get a lottery pick and continue to play Ware and Bam and this season will be a success.


I don't think it would be so bad to get a lottery pick this year. I know it affects protections on future picks. It would only be painful if we have to give up a pick and it turns out to be a lottery pick. Are we planning to be worse next year? Just having a decent player playing hard in place of Jimmy will make us better than this year. So why not give up a worse pick a year later? Imagine if the Heat get the #1 pick this year on low odds like the Bulls did with Rose? One can dream.


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Post#1937 » by AirP. » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:56 am

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AirP. wrote:It's almost like he was excused from shoot around to put him in a situation where he could get suspended. I don't know but saying the practice was cancelled and then the flight was moved up sure is interesting in this situation. It is pretty for this to happen now. It's a lot like the late payment to Butler, on it's own not an issue, it's the timeframe it happens. The GM tells you publicly to shut up, they don't extend you and all of a sudden, your first missed deposit happens. Maybe a coincidence, but at this point I doubt it, the public announcement that Miami would not trade Butler put a bow on it for me. The FO that doesn't leak information, the FO that has the rest of the NBA guessing what they're doing just publicly comes out and says they're not trading Butler, that's them pushing Butler's limits and yet, most of this fan base is good with bosses doing this to their employees.

I use to be pro team, it's **** like this that made me quit being a fan of teams. Chicago did their own propaganda against Butler and Thibodeau (and of course others), shipped out loyal players for the sake of money because the FO screwed up the financial future of the team.

Come on... really? The team that never leaks anything puts out a tweet/press release that they aren't trading Butler and this was supposed to fix a distraction, really?
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Bro what? I know you're a butler fan but you think the Heat made him miss the flight? At some point, you're gonna have to accept that your boy is the common denominator in every bridge being burned on his way out lol.


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You think they purposefully made him miss the plane? Nobody on the team let him know when the plane was taking off?
That would mean he has 0 friends on the team, which would speak more to Jimmy's character than anything else. lol

Or it would mean that they cancelled practice (which Ira mentions), he went to do something further from the airport or did something without his phone, got the update that the flight was moved up and didn't have enough time to get there. If the flight wasn't moved I'd lean heavily towards Butler just missed the flight (which I did at first), then Ira tweeted that the flight was moved up which was odd to do on the day of the flight or do you think this is regular protocol? It would be interesting to know how many times the team's flight out of town had been moved up to the same day in the last couple of years.
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Post#1938 » by Nihilism » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:56 am

Shewasfly wrote:
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Doing his boys dirty.

If he gets injured, he's probably opting into his player option next year vs being a FA, he's going to do the bare minimum for a roster that probably only gets as far as he can get them although the offense is no longer built around him or Bam. Butler should have been moved before the season started and Miami should have gone with developing the younger players while waiting for 2026.

This narrative that the offense was no longer built around butler needs to die a slow and painful death for the lie that it is. The offense adjusted and made due without him, which is why you suddenly see JJJ and Jokić handling the ball so much more, but that was after Jimmy checked out and all the rest of this stuff started to happen. It’s the same damn offense and that’s not the reason for his (or Bam, since that’s part of the angle) decreased output.

Yeah, and it also comes from a guy notorious for deferring to his teammates so he can preserve himself for PO. Sounds about right.
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Post#1939 » by Heat3 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:59 am

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I just want this to end, make sure we dont get a lottery pick and continue to play Ware and Bam and this season will be a success.


I don't think it would be so bad to get a lottery pick this year. I know it affects protections on future picks. It would only be painful if we have to give up a pick and it turns out to be a lottery pick. Are we planning to be worse next year? Just having a decent player playing hard in place of Jimmy will make us better than this year. So why not give up a worse pick a year later? Imagine if the Heat get the #1 pick this year on low odds like the Bulls did with Rose? One can dream.


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