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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1921 » by greg4012 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:20 pm

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Kinda warping the idea of a rebuild with that interpretation no?

That 27 yo is in his 8th year now and has been a key cog in the Jimmy era core.

A true rebuild would involve trading him and embracing an even younger roster


Is serving the most extreme form of rebuild the goal? Is that the one that is proven to provide best results?

Or is putting together the next form of true contending roster the goal?


Getting superstar level talent is the goal and one of the ways to increase the odds in doing so is to bottom out to improve draft positioning and to add more future picks to either use or barter with.


Agreed it's one of the ways

Well put in that regard
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1922 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:21 pm

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We about to release Mitchell to try and avoid the tax?!


Better not. I want #45 around for our resurgence next year. Him and Fears going to be quite the combo.

I don’t think he’s part of the plans or they have seen enough out of him to match anything over then what he’s currently making. Just not a reliable enough shooter at PG.
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Post#1923 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:29 pm

Mitchell was a cap cutting cost bandaid at the PG spot to see if he could prove his value to help the team into a playoff spot. This team was originally was supposed to be getting Schroeder but we were trying so desperately to get under the tax. Raptors took on Tucker who made 12.5 for Mitchell’s 6.5 and it cost us a 2nd. If we can dip below the line this year it helps with future flexibility with the repeater clock reset. Business business. If Mitchell is let go we can finish off the tank for good with Stevens taking over for Mitchell. Dru Smith will be back in the future for this team.
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Post#1924 » by DayofMourning » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:35 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think he’s part of the plans or they have seen enough out of him to match anything over then what he’s currently making. Just not a reliable enough shooter at PG.


Thats just rude Pandaman. Dude is shooting like 50% from the field and 3. Hes playing his role real well.

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Post#1925 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:41 pm

It would be pretty unfortunate to see him go, depending on his market this summer. He would be a perfect backup PG on a contender if we have something big planned. He’s a very good POA defender, he’s very scrappy, great ability to dodge screens and also draw moving screens (best in the league I believe) solid playmaker, and is knocking down his 3s in a Heat jersey at 48%. If he can get the volume from 3 up a little that’d be the only complaint but again, perfect for a backup PG to come in and bring some energy
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Post#1926 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:50 pm

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Post#1927 » by DayofMourning » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:56 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:It would be pretty unfortunate to see him go, depending on his market this summer. He would be a perfect backup PG on a contender if we have something big planned. He’s a very good POA defender, he’s very scrappy, great ability to dodge screens and also draw moving screens (best in the league I believe) solid playmaker, and is knocking down his 3s in a Heat jersey at 48%. If he can get the volume from 3 up a little that’d be the only complaint but again, perfect for a backup PG to come in and bring some energy


I love him. Hes a dawg and he makes an impact. Lineups are all over the place, but I feel better every time we put him in.

Fears and Davion is a good rotation.
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Post#1928 » by jbsays » Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:58 pm

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:OKC isn’t trading all those picks and then paying Bam the max to be their fourth best player/glue guy. They’d much rather have the top 5 pick we will be sending them next year that is cost controlled for several years.

We are most likely stuck with him since the Heat see him as more valuable than what the trade offers will be.


Bam is a better overall player than Jalen Williams and Chet. Chet could achieve greater heights if he proves durable and can progress (has played in 45% of total games since being drafted).

Still think Bam trade talk is nonsense, but if some team out there is gearing up for a huge offer I'm sure it will be due to the hard work of half this board in working to source it.


Bam might be better.
But OKC's cap situation is so good they'd need to add Dort's $16.5 million contract to Jalen Williams and Holmgren to get Bam.
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Post#1929 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:19 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think he’s part of the plans or they have seen enough out of him to match anything over then what he’s currently making. Just not a reliable enough shooter at PG.


Thats just rude Pandaman. Dude is shooting like 50% from the field and 3. Hes playing his role real well.

I already got my full back tattoo of Davion. No going back now!

I’m just saying. Some tough decisions are going to need to be made with this floundering team. They can’t afford to give Mitchell too much in RFA. They need to work out Duncan’s ETO and they also need money to sign the draft picks while staying under the line. I don’t know if they want to commit long term to Mitchell.
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Post#1930 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:26 pm

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Can’t fall in love with Mitchell unless he’s coming back for a Highsmith type deal.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1931 » by KingDavid » Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:33 pm

Damn, I really like Mitchell too. Amazing defender. Dude would elevate any contender at backup pg. His defensive energy is contagious.
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Post#1932 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:47 pm

KingDavid wrote:Damn, I really like Mitchell too. Amazing defender. Dude would elevate any contender at backup pg. His defensive energy is contagious.

The problem is the tax line and repeater tax. Micky’s been paying tax the last few years for mediocrity and now that the team is lotto bound he’s not going into the tax for a try hard backup PG with limited scoring skill set. He won’t be tendered by us in RFA. If he does come back it will be for a small salary.
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Post#1933 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:53 pm

Mitchell won the hearts of Heat nation much like Jagsmith lol. Keep in mind the Raps gave Mitchell away for basically nothing to free up room for their 2nd rd pick Jamal Shead who is giving them the same production Mitchell gave them. Mitchell looks to be a solid backup PG but we could also find better so i understand if they decide to move on.
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Post#1934 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:35 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:i highly doubt that the heat will trade bam. i just dont see it

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Im not even sure where all this Bam trade talk is coming frm. Fans are so misaligned w/ Heat org at times. I dont think we see Bam as a Strus, Vincent sort of player which we developed & can ship out to be replaced. It wld have to be an elite all-star calibre player to even entertain……but no team is going to trade an elite calibre all-star for Bam.
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Post#1935 » by DayofMourning » Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:50 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Mitchell won the hearts of Heat nation much like Jagsmith lol. Keep in mind the Raps gave Mitchell away for basically nothing to free up room for their 2nd rd pick Jamal Shead who is giving them the same production Mitchell gave them. Mitchell looks to be a solid backup PG but we could also find better so i understand if they decide to move on.


Mitchell gon prove u wrong u Ivan Rabb lover!!!
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Post#1936 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:06 pm

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Can’t fall in love with Mitchell unless he’s coming back for a Highsmith type deal.


He wont take a bad deal, he need to look out for himself.

Cap wise it’s been obvious just how bleeped up things are. Wiggins 30+ then paying Mitchell and Jovic and poof the cap space magically vanishes. The whole pretext of not keeping Jimmy was cap space and now watching it being spent on players role players is such a front office move :lol:
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1937 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:51 pm

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Can’t fall in love with Mitchell unless he’s coming back for a Highsmith type deal.


He wont take a bad deal,
he need to look out for himself.

Cap wise it’s been obvious just how bleeped up things are. Wiggins 30+ then paying Mitchell and Jovic and poof the cap space magically vanishes. The whole pretext of not keeping Jimmy was cap space and now watching it being spent on players role players is such a front office move :lol:


He may well surprise you. We may try to get a deal that will benefit both sides. Mitch fits in our system.
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Post#1938 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:05 am

DayofMourning wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Mitchell won the hearts of Heat nation much like Jagsmith lol. Keep in mind the Raps gave Mitchell away for basically nothing to free up room for their 2nd rd pick Jamal Shead who is giving them the same production Mitchell gave them. Mitchell looks to be a solid backup PG but we could also find better so i understand if they decide to move on.


Mitchell gon prove u wrong u Ivan Rabb lover!!!

Don’t even go there :lol:
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1939 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:08 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
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Can’t fall in love with Mitchell unless he’s coming back for a Highsmith type deal.


He wont take a bad deal, he need to look out for himself.

Cap wise it’s been obvious just how bleeped up things are. Wiggins 30+ then paying Mitchell and Jovic and poof the cap space magically vanishes. The whole pretext of not keeping Jimmy was cap space and now watching it being spent on players role players is such a front office move :lol:

A lot hate to hear the truth. It’s not that I don’t like Mitchell. I just see how phucked the cap has been and so do you. I can understand Barry’s piece today on Mitchell. I said it in a breakdown last night that we won’t even tender his RFA just to get under the line. We don’t have many choices really.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1940 » by DayofMourning » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:15 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Mitchell won the hearts of Heat nation much like Jagsmith lol. Keep in mind the Raps gave Mitchell away for basically nothing to free up room for their 2nd rd pick Jamal Shead who is giving them the same production Mitchell gave them. Mitchell looks to be a solid backup PG but we could also find better so i understand if they decide to move on.


Mitchell gon prove u wrong u Ivan Rabb lover!!!

Don’t even go there :lol:


Lmao!

Hell, weve all been there:)

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