2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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[Beenie]

Duncan aint opting out w/o some kind of assurance of a new deal no?

[EMC5466]

Duncan aint opting out w/o some kind of assurance of a new deal no?

Correct.

[SoFlaKingReal]

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Wait, what is happening?

Duncan opted out of the full 20 mil guaranteed?

[wade44]

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Wait, what is happening?

Duncan opted out of the full 20 mil guaranteed?

Yes but this means he’ll more than likely be back

[SoFlaKingReal]

Wow, that's massive.

Hopefully, it's the "help with a move elsewhere" scenario of Sham's tweet.

[twix2500]

So now shooting has become extremely weak.

PG: Mitchell - Jakuciosis - Rozier - Smith
SG: Herro - Larsson
SF: Wiggins - Jaquez - Highsmith
PF: Adebayo - Jovic - Johnson
CE: Ware - Love

[twix2500]

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Wait, what is happening?

Duncan opted out of the full 20 mil guaranteed?

Yes this actually gives the Heat a lot my flexibility to make moves if staying under tax is a priority

[contract]

What would a new Duncan contract with us even look like? Are we talking 2/20 or 3/30 kind of deal? I doubt he declines his option without the assurance from the team that he’s coming back for about that much

It was an early termination option. He declined to terminate the contract. Declining the option ... or really not doing anything ... means that he's due $19 million this coming season unless he's cut in the next few days.

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[fincane30]

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Wait, what is happening?

Duncan opted out of the full 20 mil guaranteed?

He realistically opted out of around 10 million. If he had exercised his option the Heat could have cut him and paid him the portion of his final year that is guaranteed. Just under 10 million.

[SoFlaKingReal]

What would a new Duncan contract with us even look like? Are we talking 2/20 or 3/30 kind of deal? I doubt he declines his option without the assurance from the team that he’s coming back for about that much

It was an early termination option. He declined to terminate the contract. Declining the option ... or really not doing anything ... means that he's due $19 million this coming season unless he's cut in the next few days.

Then what is Barry Jackson talking about with Duncan "opting out of guaranteed money"?

[SoFlaKingReal]

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Wait, what is happening?

Duncan opted out of the full 20 mil guaranteed?

He realistically opted out of around 10 million. If he had exercised his option the Heat could have cut him and paid him the portion of his final year that is guaranteed. Just under 10 million.

Barry's tweet indicates there was a $20 million cap savings (from 8 over the tax to 12 under it).

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What would a new Duncan contract with us even look like? Are we talking 2/20 or 3/30 kind of deal? I doubt he declines his option without the assurance from the team that he’s coming back for about that much

It was an early termination option. He declined to terminate the contract. Declining the option ... or really not doing anything ... means that he's due $19 million this coming season unless he's cut in the next few days.

Then what is Barry Jackson talking about with Duncan "opting out of guaranteed money"?

[SoFlaKingReal]

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It looks like Duncan opted out of his contract entirely and is a free agent now.

[fincane30]

Wait, what is happening?

Duncan opted out of the full 20 mil guaranteed?

He realistically opted out of around 10 million. If he had exercised his option the Heat could have cut him and paid him the portion of his final year that is guaranteed. Just under 10 million.

Barry's tweet indicates there was a $20 million cap savings (from 8 over the tax to 12 under it).

Yeah if the Heat kept him on the roster it is 20 million. They had the option to cut him after he exercised his option and owe him just under 10 because the final year of his deal wasn't fully guaranteed. Thats why people thought he'd be attractive to PHX in a KD trade. Duncan could've been in the trade, the Suns cut him, pay the partial guarantee and that helps them get under the 2nd apron.

[wade44]

What would a new Duncan contract with us even look like? Are we talking 2/20 or 3/30 kind of deal? I doubt he declines his option without the assurance from the team that he’s coming back for about that much

It was an early termination option. He declined to terminate the contract. Declining the option ... or really not doing anything ... means that he's due $19 million this coming season unless he's cut in the next few days.

My understanding is that he turned down the 20 million guaranteed (10m if we cut him?) to sign a longer term deal with the Heat. Can’t imagine he’s worth anywhere near that on the open market

We’ll get more clarity on this in the coming days

[carnageta]

Duncan is a nice piece to have (just not for 20m / season). Wouldn't mind him returning on a team-friendly contract (i.e. 3/33m).

Remember, some of our best offense to date has been the Duncan / Bam pick&roll / dribble-handoff. Miami runs on Duncan

[twix2500]

He realistically opted out of around 10 million. If he had exercised his option the Heat could have cut him and paid him the portion of his final year that is guaranteed. Just under 10 million.

Barry's tweet indicates there was a $20 million cap savings (from 8 over the tax to 12 under it).

Yeah if the Heat kept him on the roster it is 20 million. They had the option to cut him after he exercised his option and owe him just under 10 because the final year of his deal wasn't fully guaranteed. Thats why people thought he'd be attractive to PHX in a KD trade. Duncan could've been in the trade, the Suns cut him, pay the partial guarantee and that helps them get under the 2nd apron.

might of been the big hold up trades, Heat technically couldnt trade Duncan until he made his decision