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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1941 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:07 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I'm not following the rumor mill closely but is there actually smoke to this LeBron to the Heat stuff or is it just posters daydreaming?

Posters daydreaming…

To reply to cwebb above you…

By the way, Beal sucks and i would not want him taking minutes from Kevin Love, who averages like 2 minutes a game.

If we are going with the youth movement, we dont need beal putting a wrench on it.
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Post#1942 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:09 am

Vertical Limit wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I'm not following the rumor mill closely but is there actually smoke to this LeBron to the Heat stuff or is it just posters daydreaming?

Posters daydreaming…

To reply to cwebb above you…

By the way, Beal sucks and i would not want him taking minutes from Kevin Love, who averages like 2 minutes a game.

If we are going with the youth movement, we dont need beal putting a wrench on it.


Fine… be that way! Then back to Wiggins for Rui, Knecht, FRP.
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Post#1943 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:10 am

Beal is signing with the Lakers or Clippers once bought out. Wife already has it planned
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Post#1944 » by Wiltside » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:13 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Beal is signing with the Lakers or Clippers once bought out. Wife already has it planned


No loss. I'd honestly rather see Pelle get burn.
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Post#1945 » by MorbidHEAT » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:20 am

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I could become a free agent and someone would report that the Heat are interested. It’s hard to keep up or believe.
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Post#1946 » by Beenie » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:32 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Beal is signing with the Lakers or Clippers once bought out. Wife already has it planned


No loss. I'd honestly rather see Pelle get burn.


Bam disagrees surely
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Post#1947 » by He2Fast » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:33 am

Let’s say that the Heat complete a trade with the Lakers for Rui/Knecht and a first, then trade for John Collins.

In this hypothetical, let’s say it costs a combination of Wiggins, Jaquez, Highsmith, and possibly some 2nds.

That would leave us with something like Mitchell, Kasparas, Herro, Jovic, Knecht, Bam, Collins and Ware.

How would the board feel about that combination, both as a roster, but also in terms of the front office?
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Post#1948 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:02 am

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Post#1949 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:02 am

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Post#1950 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:04 am

He2Fast wrote:Let’s say that the Heat complete a trade with the Lakers for Rui/Knecht and a first, then trade for John Collins.

In this hypothetical, let’s say it costs a combination of Wiggins, Jaquez, Highsmith, and possibly some 2nds.

That would leave us with something like Mitchell, Kasparas, Herro, Jovic, Knecht, Bam, Collins and Ware.

How would the board feel about that combination, both as a roster, but also in terms of the front office?


Add Pelle and Keshad to that group, along with Rui. That is a group all 27 years old and younger!! Youth movement baby!
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Post#1951 » by He2Fast » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:13 am

MiamiLoyal926 wrote:
He2Fast wrote:Let’s say that the Heat complete a trade with the Lakers for Rui/Knecht and a first, then trade for John Collins.

In this hypothetical, let’s say it costs a combination of Wiggins, Jaquez, Highsmith, and possibly some 2nds.

That would leave us with something like Mitchell, Kasparas, Herro, Jovic, Knecht, Bam, Collins and Ware.

How would the board feel about that combination, both as a roster, but also in terms of the front office?


Add Pelle and Keshad to that group, along with Rui. That is a group all 27 years old and younger!! Youth movement baby!


I completely forgot about Rui, lol. I’m interested to see what each of you think about that combination as a roster, as well as the front office, in this particular scenario.

I understand that negative thoughts/actions emit a larger response, and much of the criticism that’s been levied is reasonable. I am seeking to understand this collective of minds.
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Post#1952 » by SoFlaKingReal » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:24 am

It seems very likely Dame signs with Golden State....just my opinion.
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Post#1953 » by gom » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:27 am

He2Fast wrote:
MiamiLoyal926 wrote:
He2Fast wrote:Let’s say that the Heat complete a trade with the Lakers for Rui/Knecht and a first, then trade for John Collins.

In this hypothetical, let’s say it costs a combination of Wiggins, Jaquez, Highsmith, and possibly some 2nds.

That would leave us with something like Mitchell, Kasparas, Herro, Jovic, Knecht, Bam, Collins and Ware.

How would the board feel about that combination, both as a roster, but also in terms of the front office?


Add Pelle and Keshad to that group, along with Rui. That is a group all 27 years old and younger!! Youth movement baby!


I completely forgot about Rui, lol. I’m interested to see what each of you think about that combination as a roster, as well as the front office, in this particular scenario.

I understand that negative thoughts/actions emit a larger response, and much of the criticism that’s been levied is reasonable, I am seeking to understand this collective of minds.


That is a weak roster. I don't see the need to add Collins.

The LA trade you outline looks like a mistake to me. 24 year-old Knecht is a good SF to bring in off the bench. Neither Hachimura nor Knecht are good defenders. 27 year-old Hachimura does have a good 3-point shot, but are you putting him at PF? I thought Bam was playing PF with Jovic backing him up.

My issue with the current team is playmaking. We have whole quarters where we cannot score, and a good offensive team (like... let's say the Cavs... hypothetically you understand) will smoke this new defense even worse than last season's.

In short, it looks like we're just moving deck furniture on a ship that's not seaworthy.
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Post#1954 » by He2Fast » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:46 am

gom wrote:
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Add Pelle and Keshad to that group, along with Rui. That is a group all 27 years old and younger!! Youth movement baby!


I completely forgot about Rui, lol. I’m interested to see what each of you think about that combination as a roster, as well as the front office, in this particular scenario.

I understand that negative thoughts/actions emit a larger response, and much of the criticism that’s been levied is reasonable, I am seeking to understand this collective of minds.


That is a weak roster. I don't see the need to add Collins.

The LA trade you outline looks like a mistake to me. 24 year-old Knecht is a good SF to bring in off the bench. Neither Hachimura nor Knecht are good defenders. 27 year-old Hachimura does have a good 3-point shot, but are you putting him at PF? I thought Bam was playing PF with Jovic backing him up.

My issue with the current team is playmaking. We have whole quarters where we cannot score, and a good offensive team (like... let's say the Cavs... hypothetically you understand) will smoke this new defense even worse than last season's.

In short, it looks like we're just moving deck furniture on a ship that's not seaworthy.


I essentially added a couple of consistent rumors together to get a feel for what this collective mind wants in terms of roster construction.

Personally, I’d rather the current collection of Kasparas, Herro, Jovic, Bam, Ware, and Mitchell get all the run they need to figure out what they are, both individually and as a collective.

I think it’d be fair to say that we all know who Bam, Herro and Mitchell are and can be, but I don’t know that we can honestly say that about Jovic and Ware. And we sure as hell can’t say that we know what Kasparas will be.

As of now, I’d like to see Jovic as a SF with Bam/Ware, as well as playing as the PF with Ware OR Bam. I’m not saying it will work, I’m saying that we don’t know if it will or won’t.

Any idea of getting a superstar, or star, or proven scorer/playmaker this season doesn’t make logical sense to me. So if you believe the ship is not seaworthy, then I’d surmise that the best course of action is to allow that ship to sink, so that you may build anew.

Cap looks to be in excellent condition going forward, as of this writing. That, along with the pick situation getting significantly better soon, leads to a prime opportunity to build a new foundation.

Doesn’t it make sense to find out if any of the men I’ve mentioned fit as foundational pieces?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1955 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:53 am

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Post#1956 » by He2Fast » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:57 am

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If it’s not Wiggins or Rozier, then who in the hell would we possibly trade for Kuminga?
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Post#1957 » by CWebb2491 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:01 am

SoFlaKingReal wrote:It seems very likely Dame signs with Golden State....just my opinion.



To play behind the player he was always regarded to as one tier below?

Or he could sign with Miami and play with young stars and Bam and Herro and who ever is left of the youngins. By the time he can play we’ll have more draft Capitol Mr more young players to offer in the off season of 2026 plus max cap space.

Miami is in a. Much better place…

Steph, Jimmy and Green will be another year older when he’s ready to play. A bunch of 36 year olds….
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1958 » by SoFlaKingReal » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:03 am

CWebb2491 wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:It seems very likely Dame signs with Golden State....just my opinion.



To play behind the player he was always regarded to as one tier below?

Or he could sign with Miami and play with young stars and Bam and Herro and who ever is left of the youngins. By the time he can play we’ll have more draft Capitol Mr more young players to offer in the off season of 2026 plus max cap space.

Miami is in a. Much better place…

Steph, Jimmy and Green will be another year older when he’s ready to play. A bunch of 36 year olds….


I hear ya, my reasoning is that Dame is from the Bay Area, his family lives on the West coast, and the Warriors actually looked like a real threat in the playoffs before Steph went down.
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Post#1959 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:09 am

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1960 » by Voltron914 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:10 am

vagelis wrote:I prefer Wiggins to stay in Miami.
I don't want him to Lakers even if he has a chance for a title there.

Miami is a situation where he will need to step up and take responsibilities.
19ppg is not enough for him and noone will be happy with him in Miami scoring only 19ppg.

I think this is exactly the situation that he needs.
A situation where the team demands from him more.

Give him a chance until the trade deadline.
20 games the last year were very few to judge a player.

Trade him in trade deadline if the team goes nowhere.
Evaluate him fairly first.
Give him some games to play healthy


Wiggins excelled when he wasnt the main guy in GSW and that should continue in a super glue guy role and Bam/Herro figure out how to reach that next level. if we rolling then keep the team intact and only trade him with Rozier to add to the roster

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