Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII)

[CanesHeatFins]

Would the Heat be willing to trade Bosh? If yes, what kind of value are they looking for?

As a Blazers fan, I was considering a consolidation trade, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like it would need to be a 3 way.

Yes the Heat would deal him. I'm of the opinion that the organization would do it str8 up for a protected 1st or just a 2nd rounder with no players coming back this way. A three way trade with a team that has cap space like you mentioned, would also open up a very valuable 23million dollar trade exception to go along with the freed up cap space for us.

[Hallstar]

Wizards and Bulls were terrible last year and both still won 40 games. I still think we're at or ahead of that curve

Their best players are better than ours.

And have more usable depth. We're not on the same level as Washington and the Bulls

We have a whole bunch of scrap heap parts after the top 5 or so players

[CanesHeatFins]

Article: 4 promising statistics for the Miami Heat
http://allucanheat.com/2016/07/31/possible-glimmers-hope-miami-heat/

A few excerpts from the article:

Hassan Whiteside: Nine field goals attempts or more

2015-16 stats 14.2 ppg, 11.8reb, 3.7bpg, 60.6fg%, in 29.1mpg

Though these numbers are impressive for a player in just his second full season in the league, Whiteside was never a featured part of the offense, understandable considering his inexperience. However, one simple benchmark proved how valuable he can be when given the chance.

This past season, Whiteside attempted at least nine shots in 44 out of his 73 games, returning 17.7 points, 13.3 rebounds and 3.8 blocks on average in those games while shooting 61.3 percent from the field in 31 minutes per game. These games only accounted for a slight increase in playing time(29mpg to 31mpg) yet a noticeable increase in output.

Goran Dragic: 12 field goal attempts or more

2015-2016 stats 14.1ppg 5.8assist 47.7fg% in 32.8mpg

There were 44 games, however, when Dragic attempted 12 or more field goal attempts. During these he averaged 17.4 points per game, 6.3 assists per game and 34.1 minutes per game, shooting 49.6 percent from the field. Most notably, the Heat compiled a 31-13 record during these games, a 70.4 winning percentage. Compared to the overall record of 48-34, or a 58.5 percent winning percentage

Derrick Williams: 20 Minutes per game or more

Williams’ solitary season in New York produced the numbers of 9.3 points per game, 3.7 rebounds per game and 17.9 minutes per game whilst shooting 45.0 percent from the field in 80 games. In 29 games where he played at least 20 minutes, he contributed 13.7 points per game, 5.8 rebounds per game and 25.8 minutes per game whilst shooting 45.9 percent from the field.

Dion Waiters: 10 field goal attempts or more

Waiters 2015-2016 stats 9.8ppg 39.9fg% 35%3ptfg 27mpg

In 31 games where Waiters attempted 10 or more field goal attempts, he averaged 13.9 ppg on 44.7 percent from the field and 40 percent from three-point range in 31.1 minutes per game.

Also of note is the fact the Thunder had a 26-5 record for a 83.9 percent winning percentage during these 31 games. When compared to the overall 55-27 record or a 67.1 winning percentage, it can be definitively stated that Waiters had a positive impact for the Thunder last season when he was given the chance to shoot more and contribute.

[Chalm Down]

.Beno comebyke, Chalms get inn, Babbit get a haircut

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Uncle pls

[RexBoyWonder]

Beno better not push Weber out.

Get rid of Ellington/Babbit

[Prince Ali]

Sorry udrih.

[Bishop45]

Wizards and Bulls were terrible last year and both still won 40 games. I still think we're at or ahead of that curve

Their best players are better than ours.

And have more usable depth. We're not on the same level as Washington and the Bulls

We have a whole bunch of scrap heap parts after the top 5 or so players

For emphasis, you mean best player on the separate teams or best "players"? For objective purposes, can you look at the overall rosters and say we're worst off? Really don't care either way, jus meaning to understand the point

[Bishop45]

Beno better not push Weber out.

Get rid of Ellington/Babbit

Has to be bibble

[MartyConlonJr]

Those stats about getting more fga = better production or more wins - they seem to infer more than they are worth. I feel like if dion waiters is hot, he'll get more fga, and if he is hot, the other team will lose because they are probably leaving a low efficiency player open as a tactic. Y'know?

[Hallstar]

Wizards and Bulls were terrible last year and both still won 40 games. I still think we're at or ahead of that curve

Their best players are better than ours.

And have more usable depth. We're not on the same level as Washington and the Bulls

We have a whole bunch of scrap heap parts after the top 5 or so players

For emphasis, you mean best player on the separate teams or best "players"? For objective purposes, can you look at the overall rosters and say we're worst off? Really don't care either way, jus meaning to understand the point

I think Butler and Wade are better than anybody we have.

Wall is better than anybody, and Beal is up there

After Hassan I don't see a player we have that is top 5 at their position in the East and most probably aren't top 10. (not factoring Bosh)

Hassan is only behind Drummond @ C, but a center relies on his guards getting him the ball.

One thing I'm scared of is they'll look at the roster, realize Waiters is the only halfcourt scoring we have and load him up with minutes.

[Bishop45]

Their best players are better than ours.

And have more usable depth. We're not on the same level as Washington and the Bulls

We have a whole bunch of scrap heap parts after the top 5 or so players

For emphasis, you mean best player on the separate teams or best "players"? For objective purposes, can you look at the overall rosters and say we're worst off? Really don't care either way, jus meaning to understand the point

I think Butler and Wade are better than anybody we have.

Wall is better than anybody, and Beal is up there

After Hassan I don't see a player we have that is top 5 at their position in the East and most probably aren't top 10. (not factoring Bosh)

Hassan is only behind Drummond @ C, but a center relies on his guards getting him the ball.

One thing I'm scared of is they'll look at the roster, realize Waiters is the only halfcourt scoring we have and load him up with minutes.

I meant in regards to their '16 selves which were terrible and still capable of 40 wins. I don't think either team had a better duo than Hassan/Dragic or better depth. If they were capable and the Level of comp hasn't drastically changed, I don't think it's impossible. Definitely not our floor, but not impossible

[cyclix]

Wall/Gortat > Dragic/Whiteside (Whiteside is better than Gortat but Wall is way better than Dragic)
Beal > Waiters/Rich/TJ (I think both TJ & Rich have potential to be better than Beal)
Didn't they also acquire one of the Morris twins? He is better than any F Miami has (except a medically cleared Bosh), but again Winslow has potential to exceed Morris.

Washington is more top heavy than Miami for sure.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Wall/Gortat > Dragic/Whiteside (Whiteside is better than Gortat but Wall is way better than Dragic)
Beal > Waiters/Rich/TJ (I think both TJ & Rich have potential to be better than Beal)
Didn't they also acquire one of the Morris twins? He is better than any F Miami has (except a medically cleared Bosh), but again Winslow has potential to exceed Morris.

Washington is more top heavy than Miami for sure.

If you're factoring health then ok but if healthy its not even close Beal has a higher ceiling.

[CanesHeatFins]

Their best players are better than ours.

And have more usable depth. We're not on the same level as Washington and the Bulls

We have a whole bunch of scrap heap parts after the top 5 or so players

For emphasis, you mean best player on the separate teams or best "players"? For objective purposes, can you look at the overall rosters and say we're worst off? Really don't care either way, jus meaning to understand the point

I think Butler and Wade are better than anybody we have.

Wall is better than anybody, and Beal is up there

After Hassan I don't see a player we have that is top 5 at their position in the East and most probably aren't top 10. (not factoring Bosh)

Hassan is only behind Drummond @ C, but a center relies on his guards getting him the ball.

One thing I'm scared of is they'll look at the roster, realize Waiters is the only halfcourt scoring we have and load him up with minutes.

True. Majority opinion is gonna change on that real soon when Hassan gets real touches this year. With not even taking into account Hassan's defensive advantages, I'm just sayin........

Josh McRoberts 46%TS
Andre Drummond 49%TS
Dion Waiters 49%TS
Henry Walker 50% TS

Hassan Whiteside 62%TS

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[Butter]

Would the Heat be willing to trade Bosh? If yes, what kind of value are they looking for?

As a Blazers fan, I was considering a consolidation trade, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like it would need to be a 3 way.

Yes the Heat would deal him. I'm of the opinion that the organization would do it str8 up for a protected 1st or just a 2nd rounder with no players coming back this way. A three way trade with a team that has cap space like you mentioned, would also open up a very valuable 23million dollar trade exception to go along with the freed up cap space for us.

An ideal situation would be a 3 way between Por, Mia, and NJ with Portland sending Crabbe to NJ. Too bad they can't move Crabbe to NJ for a year.

[QUIZ]

Beno better not push Weber out.

Get rid of Ellington/Babbit

No, Babbit is my favorite player.

[Bishop45]

I'm on my phone and can't play the video for some reason, did he just Bobby Brown me in my own thread? Awhh Lawddy.

[dancing2thabeet]

Beno better not push Weber out.

Get rid of Ellington/Babbit

No, Babbit is my favorite player.

How you gon do McBob like that fam smh

[Umbooki]

You can't just drop Bobby Brown on people like that. No one is ever expecting Bobby Brown, much less a sober Bobby that hasn't crushed your hopes and dreams yet.

Spoiler:

Solo Bobby = Best Bobby

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