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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#1981 » by somerandomdude » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:34 am

eddieheatfan wrote:spo has changed the lineup like 3 times in this quarter alone that's not good for continuity


Wrong thread lol
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Post#1982 » by somerandomdude » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:39 am

Upcoming schedule before a big road trip. Quite a few trap games.

Theoritically, we should win them all, but could also go 4-3 or 3-4.

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Post#1983 » by dshearn » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:01 am

DayofMourning wrote:It's going to be interesting to see how Spoelstra divides the minutes once everyone gets healthy.

I look at our roster and see the following players as rotation players:

Butler
Bam-
Lowry
Herro
PJ
Strus
Yurtseven
Duncan
Dedmon
Morris
Oladipo

That's 11 guys to divide 240 minutes a game between. That depth is amazing when health issues pop up, but when everyone is ready to go, it's a problem.


You get a +1 out of respect....but you left Martin off that list..... :(
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#1984 » by DayofMourning » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:04 am

dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:It's going to be interesting to see how Spoelstra divides the minutes once everyone gets healthy.

I look at our roster and see the following players as rotation players:

Butler
Bam-
Lowry
Herro
PJ
Strus
Yurtseven
Duncan
Dedmon
Morris
Oladipo

That's 11 guys to divide 240 minutes a game between. That depth is amazing when health issues pop up, but when everyone is ready to go, it's a problem.


You get a +1 out of respect....but you left Martin off that list..... :(


I swear I had him on there. Add Gabe to the list too.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#1985 » by dshearn » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:12 am

DayofMourning wrote:
dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:It's going to be interesting to see how Spoelstra divides the minutes once everyone gets healthy.

I look at our roster and see the following players as rotation players:

Butler
Bam-
Lowry
Herro
PJ
Strus
Yurtseven
Duncan
Dedmon
Morris
Oladipo

That's 11 guys to divide 240 minutes a game between. That depth is amazing when health issues pop up, but when everyone is ready to go, it's a problem.


You get a +1 out of respect....but you left Martin off that list..... :(


I swear I had him on there. Add Gabe to the list too.



It's bonkers DOM.... i cant think of any time we get so deep into the bench with quality players.

We had tons of talk that bringing back UD was going to cripple the bench because of lack of talent, it was a darn fair argument......but low and behold....here we are.

Spo cant even run plays for all these guys.
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Post#1986 » by DayofMourning » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:18 am

dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
dshearn wrote:
You get a +1 out of respect....but you left Martin off that list..... :(


I swear I had him on there. Add Gabe to the list too.



It's bonkers DOM.... i cant think of any time we get so deep into the bench with quality players.

We had tons of talk that bringing back UD was going to cripple the bench because of lack of talent, it was a darn fair argument......but low and behold....here we are.

Spo cant even run plays for all these guys.


It's a crazy amount of depth. 13 guys for 240 minutes? Unheard of. Morris and Dipo might end up being cheerleaders. Yurt as well....
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Post#1987 » by Wiltside » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:48 am

DayofMourning wrote:
dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
I swear I had him on there. Add Gabe to the list too.



It's bonkers DOM.... i cant think of any time we get so deep into the bench with quality players.

We had tons of talk that bringing back UD was going to cripple the bench because of lack of talent, it was a darn fair argument......but low and behold....here we are.

Spo cant even run plays for all these guys.


It's a crazy amount of depth. 13 guys for 240 minutes? Unheard of. Morris and Dipo might end up being cheerleaders. Yurt as well....


This is the deepest Heat team in a long time. Morris and Dipo are definitely on the outside looking in. Sadly my guy Yurt is also now relegated to junk minutes.

The plus side is our roster now can weather most COVID storms, or most players have upped their trade value for a legit consolidation trade that raises our ceiling for when the playoffs hit.

Delicate balance for the FO and Spo.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#1988 » by twix2500 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:16 am

Spot is gonna play an 9 man rotation nightly. But not the same rotation, it will be dependent on the matchup and game plan.
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Post#1989 » by MiamiSun » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:17 am




I don't know if it was the clothes he was wearing or what, did anyone else catch Markieff Morris in the background when Bam was doing the Post- Game interview? He looks like he gained some serious weight.

That might be why he is not activated yet.
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Post#1990 » by oreon » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:11 am

DayofMourning wrote:
dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
I swear I had him on there. Add Gabe to the list too.



It's bonkers DOM.... i cant think of any time we get so deep into the bench with quality players.

We had tons of talk that bringing back UD was going to cripple the bench because of lack of talent, it was a darn fair argument......but low and behold....here we are.

Spo cant even run plays for all these guys.


It's a crazy amount of depth. 13 guys for 240 minutes? Unheard of. Morris and Dipo might end up being cheerleaders. Yurt as well....


Unfortunately for Yurt. However next season he has to get 20 mins per game no question. If it means letting Dedmon go so be it.
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Post#1991 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:38 am

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Post#1992 » by puppa bear » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:59 am

oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
dshearn wrote:

It's bonkers DOM.... i cant think of any time we get so deep into the bench with quality players.

We had tons of talk that bringing back UD was going to cripple the bench because of lack of talent, it was a darn fair argument......but low and behold....here we are.

Spo cant even run plays for all these guys.


It's a crazy amount of depth. 13 guys for 240 minutes? Unheard of. Morris and Dipo might end up being cheerleaders. Yurt as well....


Unfortunately for Yurt. However next season he has to get 20 mins per game no question. If it means letting Dedmon go so be it.

I’m sorry, but how does a player go from a 16-game stretch of averaging well over 20mpg that included 10 starts, recording double-digit rebounds on 14 straight games, including 8 double-doubles in the last 10 games, to dnp-cd?

I’m sorry, this blows my mind. I love Dedmon, but Yurt should be the clear #2 C, and Spo should be looking to test some Bam-Yurt line-ups while Yurt is still hot.
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Post#1993 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:11 am

puppa bear wrote:
oreon wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
It's a crazy amount of depth. 13 guys for 240 minutes? Unheard of. Morris and Dipo might end up being cheerleaders. Yurt as well....


Unfortunately for Yurt. However next season he has to get 20 mins per game no question. If it means letting Dedmon go so be it.

I’m sorry, but how does a player go from a 16-game stretch of averaging well over 20mpg that included 10 starts, recording double-digit rebounds on 14 straight games, including 8 double-doubles in the last 10 games, to dnp-cd?

I’m sorry, this blows my mind. I love Dedmon, but Yurt should be the clear #2 C, and Spo should be looking to test some Bam-Yurt line-ups while Yurt is still hot.


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Post#1994 » by Hallstar » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:41 am

I think what Spo gonna do is go with Dedmon for like 5 games, then YUrt for 5 games and make a decision after that.

I'm hoping that's the plan, cause I can't see this benching being permanent without opportunity having any type of fairness.
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Post#1995 » by twix2500 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:28 pm

First game back Bam was rusty and obviously scared to use his right hand. He is practicing use his left which in the long run will make him better. But in the short run he is gonna struggle and miss easy bunnies.

However he needs to get over his fear. His jumper was obviously bad because of his thumb. Lets see what improvements happen over the next ten games

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Post#1996 » by twix2500 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:31 pm

Hallstar wrote:I think what Spo gonna do is go with Dedmon for like 5 games, then YUrt for 5 games and make a decision after that.

I'm hoping that's the plan, cause I can't see this benching being permanent without opportunity having any type of fairness.


Its not a permanent rotations. Spo creates certain set plays for certain units. So if he wants to play a certain set that unit will get those mins. And that will be dependent on the matchup.

He makes his determination by UNITs. Its not who is a better player individually. Its how player fits the unit and the scheme Spo is trying to run. These are not tryouts where player x vs player y.

Most of you should know this by now. AirP and 3ammy are newbies so I expect them to be frustrated. Its a waste of time how AirP uses +/-. Because the coaches do not use +/- for individual players. They use +/- for units vs certain matchups.

Who starts will be dependent on the system Spo has built around Bam and Jimmy.

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Post#1997 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:06 pm

MiamiSun wrote:


I don't know if it was the clothes he was wearing or what, did anyone else catch Markieff Morris in the background when Bam was doing the Post- Game interview? He looks like he gained some serious weight.

That might be why he is not activated yet.

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Post#1998 » by Hallstar » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:28 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:I think what Spo gonna do is go with Dedmon for like 5 games, then YUrt for 5 games and make a decision after that.

I'm hoping that's the plan, cause I can't see this benching being permanent without opportunity having any type of fairness.


Its not a permanent rotations. Spo creates certain set plays for certain units. So if he wants to play a certain set that unit will get those mins. And that will be dependent on the matchup.

He makes his determination by UNITs. Its not who is a better player individually. Its how player fits the unit and the scheme Spo is trying to run. These are not tryouts where player x vs player y.

Most of you should know this by now. AirP and 3ammy are newbies so I expect them to be frustrated. Its a waste of time how AirP uses +/-. Because the coaches do not use +/- for individual players. They use +/- for units vs certain matchups.

Who starts will be dependent on the system Spo has built around Bam and Jimmy.

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oh nah I agree, it's just that we've seen this before where dudes will disappear for a stretch, then reappear for a stretch
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Post#1999 » by eddieheatfan » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:32 pm

somerandomdude wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:spo has changed the lineup like 3 times in this quarter alone that's not good for continuity


Wrong thread lol
:lol: yeah i know i messed up, didnt realized that i was posting in the wrong thread until the quarter ended big LOL for me :oops:
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Post#2000 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:36 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:I think what Spo gonna do is go with Dedmon for like 5 games, then YUrt for 5 games and make a decision after that.

I'm hoping that's the plan, cause I can't see this benching being permanent without opportunity having any type of fairness.


Its not a permanent rotations. Spo creates certain set plays for certain units. So if he wants to play a certain set that unit will get those mins. And that will be dependent on the matchup.

He makes his determination by UNITs. Its not who is a better player individually. Its how player fits the unit and the scheme Spo is trying to run. These are not tryouts where player x vs player y.

Most of you should know this by now. AirP and 3ammy are newbies so I expect them to be frustrated. Its a waste of time how AirP uses +/-. Because the coaches do not use +/- for individual players. They use +/- for units vs certain matchups.

Who starts will be dependent on the system Spo has built around Bam and Jimmy.

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